JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[ziaulislam]

I have come to the conclusion that no one here knows anything about the launch of elusive JFT Block III.

that is true..none knows on this forum..historically everyone has been wrong from pak navy ships, the supersonic missle on jf17 to to jf17B everyone was proven wrong

 

[messiach]

A sovereign economy cannot stand w/o a strong army.

COAS once said:

‘a strong army needs a sovereign economy’

China military industrial complex is the most profitable industry anywhere. They dont need investment. CATIC is now investing in civil aviation, bio-diversible fuels, support&maintenance all across the globe. Dividents of investment five decades ago.

In 1980's, China basically gave up investing in military hardware.

 

[LKJ86]

China military industrial complex is the most profitable industry anywhere. They dont need investment. CATIC is now investing in civil aviation, bio-diversible fuels, support&maintenance all across the globe. Dividents of investment five decades ago.

But 1980s is the really hard time to PLA and China military industry.

And even in 1990s, the chief designer of J-10 once had to sell noodles...

 

[araz]

According to source only 1 prototype will have AESA radar.. Production of block 3 will starts in between 2 to 3 years... Let see

Do not believe what you are told. There is a lot more going on. I remember in the 90 a grp Captain telling me they were testing some new weapons and they would even ask him to get out of the area. So for secret stuff it is need to know only.
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[PakShaheen79]

Block-III was pushed in Preliminary Design Stage only in 2018. So even December 2019 for first flight is very tight. My guess is March 2020 or even beyond. Major changes are being made internally from AESA to many subsystems.
Check this link https://quwa.org/2018/01/01/chengdu-reportedly-achieves-milestone-in-jf-17-block-iii-development/

 

[UniverseWatcher]

Can JF-17 be fitted with a TVC?
what are the benefits of it?
can someone shed some light on this please...
Thank you.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

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Can JF-17 be fitted with a TVC?
what are the benefits of it?
can someone shed some light on this please...
Thank you.

TVC was beneficial in dogfights. In era of BVR its disadvantages outweighs its advantages.

 

[HAIDER]

TVC was beneficial in dogfights. In era of BVR its disadvantages outweighs its advantages.

TVC is garbage , gas guzzler . Only good for acrobat. Hardly any AF has adopted this tech. Even Russian develop this tech in 80s. May be good for ground attack , but not good for air combat, when anti air missile chasing the plane over the speed of 2 mach.... non pilot would make a mistake to reduce the speed of plane and take steep turn and increase the thrust ....

 

[UniverseWatcher]

TVC is garbage , gas guzzler . Only good for acrobat. Hardly any AF has adopted this tech. Even Russian develop this tech in 80s. May be good for ground attack , but not good for air combat, when anti air missile chasing the plane over the speed of 2 mach.... non pilot would make a mistake to reduce the speed of plane and take steep turn and increase the thrust ....

then why PLAAF added TVC to J10C...for acrobats?

 

[HAIDER]

then why PLAAF added TVC to J10C...for acrobats?

There choice, we don't follow others ... they have money they can do whatever they like. Did you watch the inteview about PAF acedemy standards... PAF second to US in combat training . May be some people feel little offended.but PAF is way ahead then Chinese AF in training and adoption of latest tech.
Its old AIM 9x ... test , do you think reducing plane speed would be wise ..

 

[Haris Ali2140]

then why PLAAF added TVC to J10C...for acrobats?

TVC engines generally has less life. TVC applies unnecessary stress on the frame decreasing its life.
@LKJ86 Is TVC engine just for testing or it will applied to more J10s???

 

[UniverseWatcher]

thanks for the insight...i just wanted to understand more about TVC...

 

[Haris Ali2140]

thanks for the insight...i just wanted to understand more about TVC...

Chinese have money. They want to master Jet engine production. So they are experimenting with every type of engine. We don't have that luxury.

 

[UniverseWatcher]

There choice, we don't follow others ... they have money they can do whatever they like. Did you watch the inteview about PAF acedemy standards... PAF second to US in combat training . May be some people feel little offensive.but PAF is way ahead then Chinese AF in training and adoption of latest tech.

ahead of PLAAF in adaptation of latest tech? we don't have any stealth fighter jet in the inventory yet....

 

[HAIDER]

ahead of PLAAF in adaptation of latest tech? we don't have any stealth fighter jet in the inventory yet....

Stealth tech is not some kinda invisible tech anymore ...
enjoy ..good piece of info
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...17-was-shot-down-heres-how-it-went-down-37762

Stealth Shootout: In 1999, a U.S. Air Force F-117 Was Shot Down. Here's How it Went Down.
The F-117 shootdown was an embarrassing, though fortunately non-fatal, episode for the U.S. Air Force. It has been endlessly cited since as ‘proof’ that supposedly radar-invisible stealth planes could ‘easily’ be shot down by even dated Soviet-era SAM systems.