Jews allowed to work in Saudi Arabia

[al-Hasani]

Good move. Jews will attempt desecrating Prophet's grave. We can't let them in. As they view Medina as ancient Jewish land and will attempt occupying by bidding on apartments and slowly bringing other Jews there. They are threat to most holy grave in Islam and most holy land.

I don't want to appear as a racist (I am not outside of counter trolling on PDF) but what you have written is actually something that I have discovered that some Jews believe in which surprised me. I did not know that they had such fantasies.

Hazzy, this thread is about Jews with non-Israeli citizenship. Also I don't know what is correct or wrong with this news. The Saudi Arabian media are notoriously secretive. Lastly I think that there are hardly any Jewish people in KSA at all. I would be surprised if there were more than 100-200. There are probably more spies for Israel.

 

[Falcon29]

I don't want to appear as a racist (I am not outside of counter trolling on PDF) but what you have written is actually something that I have discovered that some Jews believe in which surprised me. I did not know that they had such fantasies.

Hazzy, this thread is about Jews with non-Israeli citizenship. Also I don't know what is correct or wrong with this news. The Saudi Arabian media are notoriously secretive. Lastly I think that there are hardly any Jewish people in KSA at all. I would be surprised if there were more than 100-200. There are probably more spies for Israel.

I read a lot of their commentaries. And posts from ordinary people. They accuse Arabs of 'raping/pillaging their land. Which they call Yathrib. And many of them are trolls, they say for peace deal we must give them 'Yathrib' back.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

@al-Hasani

Question, Do Saudis view someone who's a Jew as a Zionist?

Jew = Zionist or being a Jew doesn't reflect on their nationalist/ political ideology.

 

[al-Hasani]

I read a lot of their commentaries. And posts from ordinary people. They accuse Arabs of 'raping/pillaging their land. Which they call Yathrib. And many of them are trolls, they say for peace deal we must give them 'Yathrib' back.

Actually I have seen Hebrew forums claiming not only huge territories in KSA but also Jordan, Syria, Iraq and all of Sinai. Apparently this belief of a Greater Israel is a belief held by certain nationalist Jews and some religious Jews. If they are actually working towards that or not I don't know but I highly doubt it.

Remember the contract killings of Mossad on Hamas members in UAE?

Real trust between Arabs and Jews to reappear again is something that will take at least 2-3 generations even if the Palestine-Israeli conflict was solved tomorrow IMO.

@al-Hasani

Question, Do Saudis view someone who's a Jew as a Zionist?

Jew = Zionist or being a Jew doesn't reflect on their nationalist/ political ideology.

There are 30 million Saudi Arabians. Sunni (Shafi'i, Maliki, Hanbali, Hanafi & Sufi), Shia (Twelver, Ismaili, Zaydi), Atheists, ultra-conservatives, conservatives, liberals, socialists, Hijazis, Najdis, Hasawis, Northerns, Southerners, Afro-Arabs, Saudi Arabians of mixed local Saudi Arabian, Arab and Western like me, Saudi Arabians of non-Arab origin from all over the Muslim world that are nationals (due to the Hajj and Umrah), Saudi Arabians that have lived their life's abroad for many years etc. It's hard to generalize.

If you think what the House of Saud appointed Najdi Grand Mufti in KSA says = the opinions of the population of KSA then you are very wrong. No bad word about the Grand Mufti. I like some of his recent statements despite not agreeing with everything in terms of his interpretations of Islam.

What is certain is that there is mistrust and animosity against the Jewish state (Zionism) but I always had the impression that most people are able to distinguish between Jews as a people and Judaism as a religion and then Zionism and the Israeli state and their actions. At least the younger generation. Of course even if we Muslims dare to criticize Israel we are called anti-Semites.

Anyway let me also tell you a thing. Many Arabs use Jews as a scapegoat for problems that Jews have nothing to do with. Also ridiculous conspiracy theories. Most of the hatred that you see against Jews as a people is actually bound in ignorance and something that has been installed in people from a young age.

Especially in countries were Arab nationalism was a huge thing (Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Yemen etc.)

I think, contrary to popular belief, that people in the GCC see Jews as a people (remember this difference) in a more positive manner.

Anyway it's similar the other way around. You have ignorant Jews and more enlightened ones. Even on PDF.

I for once am very tired of the sectarianism in the ME and some of the moronic laws in KSA. In fact I am becoming so liberal that there might as well be beach parties in Jeddah and nightclubs etc. I know. Can't help it. Maybe such views are a reaction to all the bloodshed, moronic discussions, animosity etc. that even people from the same countries have because they have slightly different views.

 

[Gufi]

Good move. Jews will attempt desecrating Prophet's grave. We can't let them in. As they view Medina as ancient Jewish land and will attempt occupying by bidding on apartments and slowly bringing other Jews there. They are threat to most holy grave in Islam and most holy land.

you can not buy property in Saudi unless ur a national and even then property in Medina is not easy to bid for

In fact I am becoming so liberal that there might as well be beach parties in Jeddah and nightclubs etc.

i think that is um near impossible and at the same time present

 

[al-Hasani]

you can not buy property in Saudi unless ur a national and even then property in Medina is not easy to bid for

i think that is um near impossible and at the same time present

Correct. Yet there are tricks to avoid that. Foreigners can buy property through local sponsors. The property will be owned in the locals name on paper but in reality a foreigner will own it. That is if you can trust the local. There are other measures too.

Well, 35 years ago there were such parties in compounds. Still are to this day. Even outside of compounds you will find home parties among the richer classes. Locals that is. Of course this is a minority. That sentence of mine should be understood in the context of my entire post brother.

Oh, I remember people saying the same about UAE 40 years ago and look where they are now. Party animals from across the world venture to the UAE in the winter, spring and autumn. This December UAE had so many famous visitors from across the world. Movie stars, sports stars etc. All partying and enjoying beach life.

Of course I don't wish that for KSA I just wish that fewer moronic laws and more liberal laws would exist. But we can't be hypocrites. I mean us that live in the West. We are surrounded by all that all the time yet we can still be Muslims and avoid it.

 

[Gufi]

hat sentence of mine should be understood in the context of my entire post brother.

i spent a decade in a compound in Jeddah i know what you are talking about quite well