I am curious why is the navy even mentioned. Vietnam and China share a land border after all.
Well, land border cannot do anything in a seaborne skimishes. He is talking about blockading the whole SCS. Will China invade Vietnam after the blockade (It's totally legal to do so anyway) would be another fator, bt in this scenario, focus only on naval engagment.
Something doesn't make sense here. I'm assuming one of those dots are HCM city. At least it seems like the general area. If that's the case, Macau is 1500 km away. A Scub B, as jhungry, indicated has a range of 700 km. Even Hainan from HCM city is 800 km. Don't take my word for it, google it yourself.
Distance Calculator - How far is it from Macau Macau...
Am I missing something here?
Because he is talking crap
And do anybody reckon everytime Niceguy got ban, Viva Viet will become active. Strange wasn't it??
Dude, I said " we can't fight against US-China combine, so we have to make friend with one and fight with another", so don't drag China in when VN-Russia start a new war with you. We won't make same mistake like in 1979 when China colluded with US to attack VN.
When we start a new war with you, then we will make friend with China again, VN-Russia will bribe corrupted leader Xi and blah blah that : " VN-China are golden Communist brothers , we will help big Brother China to take back Taiwan.. etc...", then, US will have No chance to station its troops near Taiwan anymore . DOn't ask me why we can make friend with China again, it's just like you ask me why VN is US friend now even when VN always willing to help Russia to attack ur Guam. Your leader Obama is a big corrupted one like Mr.Xi too .
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So US fleet can't attack VN from anywhere. even you find somewhere to station your troops to attack VN, you still will be defeat in long hard war again. Fighting against VN just like playing Marathon game, it's not abt how fast but how Long u can run. You think your loser troop can fight a 20 years war with VN again ??
Dude, you are talking about blockading SCS and "
Crumble the Chinese Economy in 3 weeks"
Tell me, how you try to Crumble the economy of China in 3 weeks while asking them to help fight the US??
I literally fall off my arse and landed in my wooden floorboard .
This is your word not mine.
Ok, let's say that you "Sway" the Chinese to such a suicide position. Without the Chinese on the topic, US Pacific Fleet alone could have defeated the Russian Navy come everywhere they might. If we can't we'll call for help, the Pacific fleet are only 1/3 ot half of what we got, We can call the Atlantic Fleet, we can call up the US coast guard which is considered a bigger organisation than the People's Vietnam Army, Navy itself. And we can call the Singaporean Which host the US Naval Losgistic Pacigic command, also we can call the Philippine and Japan and South Korea. Swaying allied is not the patent of Vietnam. As least our allied sounded more possible than your so called VN-Russian-Chinese Allied Power.
Russia is not stupid, they will not dedicate 100% to secure something that illegal to start with and do not contribute to them anyway (Russian Do not share the SCS and most of their logistic done by the Northern Route anyway) Even if they are stupid enough to indulge your Vietnamese Dream, it would only be a small scale. As i said, Blockading a EEZ is violating International Law, unless Russian want to totally lose face, they will not even consider doing something like that.
Dude, if they have to choose between India and Vietnam. They would have gone for India 100% anyday, no question asked. And blocking SCS also damage Indian economy, in exchange for what? A tiny remote island called Guam which have nothing but some specuaular beaches and water front resort??
The first mine you guy laid, would be the last mine you guys laid.
Stop dreaming dude
Only people who want war are keyboard warriors with an inferiority complex and have something to prove; unfortunately, there are too many of those people here on defense.pk.
True. But that does not seems to deter people in this forum to have a wet dream on something they don't have, something they WON'T have.
If China were to help a Vietnamese/Russian alliance, China would be losing one of their biggest trading partners and wouldn't exactly be the best thing for the economy. Also, they owe China quite a lot of money. Europe may also be lost too since they're allied with America. Why would China want to risk those things for that. Also, China has said many times that the best way to unify with Taiwan is to do it peacefully, build economic ties...etc. Your scenario doesn't really solve that problem for us. The last thing the mainland wants is to run in and attack Taiwan, the people would resist and there would be a "Tiananmen revolt" anyways with the world watching.
Again, he is just listing one of his wet dream on his parallel universe. He still remain in the 70s where all communist brother should united and fight the power. It's probably very echoing in the 70s but no such things like this anymore.
In his dream, he still think Vietnam is untouchable and if Vietnam win the SCS on behalf of China and Russia against those western puppet, they will let the Chinese share their victory....