Jamaat terms Hakeemullah a ‘martyr’

[Malang Badshah]

Afghan Taliban just had condemned his death and that this is a big loss ... They just because said a big loss because he had become serious for peace talks and wants himself to get rid of from American & Indian influence ..........

For you information: Mehsud's former deputy has also alleged the TTP chief received money from Pakistan's arch-rival, India, to kill a former Pakistan spy agency official acting as a mediator between the Pakistani Taliban, Afghan insurgents and the Pakistani government.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/03/us-pakistan-militants-idUSTRE8020GP20120103

No my brother you are absolutely wrong. The Afghan Taliban have not called his death just a big loss as you are saying.
In reality the Afghan Taliban has called Hakeemullah sahib as a shaheed and they have also said that Hakeemullah sahib was a brave and ghairatmand mujahid on their official website.

This is Afghan Taliban official website: http://shahamat-urdu.com/index.php/paighamoona/36558-ملاحکیم-اللہ-مسعودکےشہادت-کےبارےمیں-امارت-اسلامیہ-کااعلامیہ

Moreover brother the other allegations that you are levelling against Hakeemullah sahib is by that red hat monkey Zaid Hamid who is a big lier and a mental patient and an enemy of ulema and madarasas. Several ulema have declared him as astray ie gumrah/ bhatka hua.

Moreover brother the Reuters news agency is owned by jews and atheists and other big kafirs so and you know very well that the kafirs call the mujahideen as terrorist and do propaganda against mujahideen.

 

[Informant]

Gi

The whole kafir world is rejoicing over the death of Hakeemullah Mehsud sahib. John Kerry and Obama are congratulating Pakistanis. Isn't this happiness and joy of the Kafir world enough proof that Hakeemullah Mehsud sahib is a shaheed? 
I appreciate JI to have the courage to speak the truth.

Gimme your address and i'll make you one. Shaheed my nutsack.

 

[Jazzbot]

No , its more than " just " a political alliance at the moment . I never said that even Imran Khan declared the dead terrorist a " martyr " but the way , he has been acting since his departure to hell , is just one step short of declaring him as such , trust me . Otherwise , care explaining to me about the drone strike being on peace and talking about late Mehsud as a great leader and patriot . What do you get from your chief's statement if I may know ? The cowardliness and the desire to make the talk succeed " at all talks " even if it means stomping over the state , the constitution and everything we stand for - indicated by their statements , actions and attitudes being showed by the two major parties is astounding .

Its matter of how you conceive things and how you understand them. I watched all recent interviews, press conferences and news of IK and I never came to such a ridiculous conclusion that IK is trying to portray Mehsood as a great leader and patriot.

Mehsood got what he deserved, and I'm glad that he's now rotting in hell. But what this drone strike really gained us? He's going to be replaced with someone else, and probably same is going to happen which happened after killing of Baitullah Mehsood. Even idiot like Hamid Karzai said that the timing of Hakeemullah's killing is wrong, and even clown like Ch Nisar said that it was an attack on peace talks, what point you are trying to make buddy?

How long these drone stricks are going to do the job for us? How long we're going to wait Yankies to kill TTP leaders once in a few years and keep killing hundreds of innocents via drone strikes meanwhile?

And finally, peace talks haven't been started yet, and here we are accusing IK for cowardice, derailing constitutions and everything we stand for...

Isn't it funny that right when Hakimullah finally became serious about peace talks and was trying to bring all armed groups to peace tables, Yankies killed him. Now peace talks will be gone, new TTP leader will be named and new row of 4 - 5 years long terrorism will follow. And after another 4 - 5 years, we will again start talking about peace talks like idiots. For God sake, where is the end of all this non-sense we are doing since past 9 years? For how long, US will keep derailing any tiny steps our Govt or Army try to take to settle this issue?

 

[Malang Badshah]

Afghan Taliban just had condemned his death and that this is a big loss ... They just because said a big loss because he had become serious for peace talks and wants himself to get rid of from American & Indian influence ..........

For you information: Mehsud's former deputy has also alleged the TTP chief received money from Pakistan's arch-rival, India, to kill a former Pakistan spy agency official acting as a mediator between the Pakistani Taliban, Afghan insurgents and the Pakistani government.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/03/us-pakistan-militants-idUSTRE8020GP20120103 


Hakimullah had taken money from India to kill Colonel Imam .........

Where is the proof that Hakeemullah sahib has taken money from India. Brother have some fear of Allah before levelling tuhmat and bohtan against a shaheed. This all taking money from India is propaganda of red hat ie zaid hamid who is a known and famous lier and agent and spokesman of Musharraf.
Moreover if Hakeemullah sahib had taken money from India then why did Afghan Taliban declared an Indian agent as a shaheed and a brave mujahid? Answer this?

 

[Jazzbot]

Where is the proof that Hakeemullah sahib has taken money from India. Brother have some fear of Allah before levelling tuhmat and bohtan against a shaheed. This all taking money from India is propaganda of red hat ie zaid hamid who is a known and famous lier and agent and spokesman of Musharraf.
Moreover if Hakeemullah sahib had taken money from India then why did Afghan Taliban declared an Indian agent as a shaheed and a brave mujahid? Answer this?

LMAO, who are you buddy? Are you the one called Khalid Sajna?

 

[Nav]

some times i feel pakistanis are confused so much that they cant even distinguish a friend and a foe ..and i'm not trolling.

Look he was shaheed or Murder is not debatable at this time. it is the timing of his killing which hurts most of the pakistanis. America was capable of his murder before but they choose the timing when TTP and Pakistan was negotiating peace in Pakistan. Before they Killed Baitullah, and Naik Mohammad at the same stage of Peace Process.

 

[neehar]

Look he was shaheed or Murder is not debatable at this time. it is the timing of his killing which hurts most of the pakistanis. America was capable of his murder before but they choose the timing when TTP and Pakistan was negotiating peace in Pakistan. Before they Killed Baitullah, and Naik Mohammad at the same stage of Peace Process.

come on we both know that those meetings were just a show off.do u seriously believe that they will leave all their weapons if the meeting succeed??first of all does anybody know what their demands even were??appeasing franatics with weapons will only makes things worse.it makes their position consolidated.it makes them recognized and it leads to further worse problems.

 

[Nav]

Where is the proof that Hakeemullah sahib has taken money from India. Brother have some fear of Allah before levelling tuhmat and bohtan against a shaheed. This all taking money from India is propaganda of red hat ie zaid hamid who is a known and famous lier and agent and spokesman of Musharraf.
Moreover if Hakeemullah sahib had taken money from India then why did Afghan Taliban declared an Indian agent as a shaheed and a brave mujahid? Answer this?

we dont have any proof of anything weather he was indian or israeli agent but it clearly shows that GOP is supporting AMerica and Jewish In this so called war on Terror. i called it war on Muslims....

 

[Secur]

Moreover brother the other allegations that you are levelling against Hakeemullah sahib is by that red hat monkey Zaid Hamid who is a big lier and a mental patient and an enemy of ulema and madarasas. Several ulema have declared him as astray ie gumrah/ bhatka hua.

So the murderers and killers of thousands of innocent Pakistanis are on the right path , as per you ? The dead terrorists himself admitted his role in the terrorism throughout the country . So ironic that the great " ulema-e-deen " - the hypocrites as I call them couldn't find the courage to condemn the almost daily death of Pakistanis in bomb blasts and other acts of terror by the same Taliban yet have the audacity of calling this " psychopath " as a " Shaheed " and condemning his death .

 

[SQ8]

Indeed we are. Despite of overt evil the ideology is penetrating its roots deeper. @Oscar, any hope?

Hope springs eternal in most cases.. after all the Central Asian states escaped the tyranny of the Soviet empire. But in this particular quandary I think our masses are happier being subdued or crushed. A history of being conquered and swayed cannot be erased. Our best hope lay in promoting ways of Tasawwuf(Sufism) as that was the best counter to such ideaologies while providing needed morale for the fight.. alas our Army is already infected with the Tableeeghi Jamaat who are hand in hand with the TTP sympathizers.

 

[Nav]

come on we both know that those meetings were just a show off.do u seriously believe that they will leave all their weapons if the meeting succeed??first of all does anybody know what their demands even were??appeasing franatics with weapons will only makes things worse.it makes their position consolidated.it makes them recognized and it leads to further worse problems.

if US can sit with Taliban for peace surely we can do that as well for Peace in Pakistan. their demand are very clear " stop drone Attacks , get your self out of so called war on terrorism , and implement sharia Law in Pakistan "

 

[Secur]

Where is the proof that Hakeemullah sahib has taken money from India. Brother have some fear of Allah before levelling tuhmat and bohtan against a shaheed. This all taking money from India is propaganda of red hat ie zaid hamid who is a known and famous lier and agent and spokesman of Musharraf.

Pakistanis being killed by the terrorists whom you support from all your heart is also a propaganda of the Red hat , right ? Have the same fear before supporting people who are involved in the killing of innocent people . 

if US can sit with Taliban for peace surely we can do that as well for Peace in Pakistan. their demand are very clear " stop drone Attacks , get your self out of so called war on terrorism , and implement sharia Law in Pakistan "

The U.S. isn't talking for itself , it will leave Afghanistan sooner or later and sit safely in the mainland thousand of miles away , so why compare our position with them ? Are we leaving Pakistan too ? If you like a gunmen standing on your head telling you to pray and do everything on compulsion , sure opt for that Sharia !

 

[Waar]

if US can sit with Taliban for peace surely we can do that as well for Peace in Pakistan. their demand are very clear " stop drone Attacks , get your self out of so called war on terrorism , and implement sharia Law in Pakistan "

Sharia Law..Are you crazy ? We don't need it in Pakistan.

 

[Secur]

Its matter of how you conceive things and how you understand them. I watched all recent interviews, press conferences and news of IK and I never came to such a ridiculous conclusion that IK is trying to portray Mehsood as a great leader and patriot.

Mehsood got what he deserved, and I'm glad that he's now rotting in hell. But what this drone strike really gained us? He's going to be replaced with someone else, and probably same is going to happen which happened after killing of Baitullah Mehsood. Even idiot like Hamid Karzai said that the timing of Hakeemullah's killing is wrong, and even clown like Ch Nisar said that it was an attack on peace talks, what point you are trying to make buddy?

How long these drone stricks are going to do the job for us? How long we're going to wait Yankies to kill TTP leaders once in a few years and keep killing hundreds of innocents via drone strikes meanwhile?

And finally, peace talks haven't been started yet, and here we are accusing IK for cowardice, derailing constitutions and everything we stand for...

Isn't it funny that right when Hakimullah finally became serious about peace talks and was trying to bring all armed groups to peace tables, Yankies killed him. Now peace talks will be gone, new TTP leader will be named and new row of 4 - 5 years long terrorism will follow. And after another 4 - 5 years, we will again start talking about peace talks like idiots. For God sake, where is the end of all this non-sense we are doing since past 9 years? For how long, US will keep derailing any tiny steps our Govt or Army try to take to settle this issue?

Just have a look at the recent statements of IK and see what idea you get , keep the lenses of the " Tsunami " off this time , mate . You will understand what I am talking about . The Clown got some great praise from Imran Khan today for his efforts . How do you know the Taliban were serious for peace talks if you say that " they hadn't even started yet " ? Mr . Nisar says that the talks did happen and were kept quiet yet the TTP denies any such thing . Even if the leaders aren't telling the truth , what do you want me to believe ? May I know how do you come to this conclusion ? The state of Pakistan signed a peace deal with the same people in Swat and we all know the result of that . You have to fight them , sooner or later , choose the time and place .

 

[neehar]

if US can sit with Taliban for peace surely we can do that as well for Peace in Pakistan. their demand are very clear " stop drone Attacks , get your self out of so called war on terrorism , and implement sharia Law in Pakistan "

u.s is anyway leaving next year they dont have to bear taliban anymore and they dont care reay once they left.but u have to deal with them for eternity.things will be normal from next year anyway.and regarding sharia law i dont think even if pakistan is accepted to be governed completely by sharia they will surrender.once people hold guns to reach their goals they can never be satisfied.even if all their goals are met they will go for new set of goals to keep their weapons justified.u really think that they are going to surrender their weapons just like that and assimilate in to public and loose their relevance??and thinking that killing its leader would hamper the talks is utter foolish.all these peace talks are just a show off..they have to be press down hard with force then u'r govt will have strength at the table.