Italy is done with it...mass deportations start

[Nilgiri]

Ask anyone, they will prefer a thousand African instead of one ROM.

yeaahhh....no.

 

[HannibalBarca]

yeaahhh....no.

You are not European...

 

[Nilgiri]

You are not European...

"Ask anyone"

I've asked many Europeans about it too...same answer.

Merkel is getting on board with the majority sentiment:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...00-000-refugees-failed-asylum-seekers-Germany

Guess who is being accelerated now:

http://www.dw.com/en/germanys-angel...f-rejected-tunisian-asylum-seekers/a-37512606

 

[TruthHurtz]

Lol we should send more of our criminals to Europe.

Europeans are cucks.

 

[HannibalBarca]

"Ask anyone"

I've asked many Europeans about it too...same answer.

Merkel is getting on board with the majority sentiment:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...00-000-refugees-failed-asylum-seekers-Germany

Guess who is being accelerated now:

http://www.dw.com/en/germanys-angel...f-rejected-tunisian-asylum-seekers/a-37512606

Those guys are stupid.. asylum seekers.. what a joke. Our country is safe, off they should come back if they're illegally on German soil. Only Tunisians.

 

[Penguin]

Merkel is getting on board with the majority sentiment:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...00-000-refugees-failed-asylum-seekers-Germany

She expects 100,000 migrants to leave Germany this year, of which a third will be forcibly removed.
I expect these to be people that have applied for asylum and haven't made the cut. If you have a larger than normal influx, you also have a larger than normal number of drop outs (might be interesting to compare pre- and post-refugee crisis accept/reject %)

 

[Nilgiri]

Those guys are stupid.. asylum seekers.. what a joke. Our country is safe, off they should come back if they're illegally on German soil. Only Tunisians.

Yah I also support that migrants should be sent to where they came from originally (once they are processed and found to not fit the criteria of host country for refugee etc)...there is no legal standpoint to just flood them back to their last transit point.

A lot of the mass deportations coming up are probably going to have to need deportation camps and so on, given the costs you have mentioned.

However Tunisia should do more to curb its use as a transit point....there will be long term blowback on Tunisia and North Africa if they dont do their part in this chain.

I guess lets see how it all goes.

(might be interesting to compare pre- and post-refugee crisis accept/reject %)

I would also like to see this data. Its unfortunately wrapped up in so much political cheap scoring by both sides...the truth gets hidden. From what I perceive (not sure if true or not), there was very little rejection rate during the main influx years compared to what is going to happen this year forwards (which will include greater processing of the migrants already in Germany).

Merkel is probably doing her best to get two birds with one stone, appeal to the moderates/neutrals in upcoming elections (by showing she can be more "balanced" on the issue) and also genuinely help to counter the security threat posed by such a sudden impulse from the refugee/migrant influx over the last few years.

This year and the next one are going to be quite interesting and crucial. I guess lets see what happens.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Yah I also support that migrants should be sent to where they came from originally (once they are processed and found to not fit the criteria of host country for refugee etc)...there is no legal standpoint to just flood them back to their last transit point.

A lot of the mass deportations coming up are probably going to have to need deportation camps and so on, given the costs you have mentioned.

However Tunisia should do more to curb its use as a transit point....there will be long term blowback on Tunisia and North Africa if they dont do their part in this chain.

I guess lets see how it all goes.

Tunisia as nothing to do in it, since no migrant transit from us anymore. It's mostly from Libyan cost, since there is no control. So Tunisia should take only her nationals. If they want to send back ppl, they should get them directly to their countries. And Tunisia get nothing in exchange of immigrant. Before she had fund, under the last dictator, but not today. So why should we do it for free ? Even Italy is not doing it for free, EU fund and help them in this area

 

[Nilgiri]

Tunisia as nothing to do in it, since no migrant transit from us anymore. It's mostly from Libyan cost, since there is no control. So Tunisia should take only her nationals. If they want to send back ppl, they should get them directly to their countries. And Tunisia get nothing in exchange of immigrant. Before she had fund, under the last dictator, but not today. So why should we do it for free ? Even Italy is not doing it for free, EU fund and help them in this area

OK, I got no problem with Tunisia if its mainly Libya problem now. Yes Europe must front the bill for return of refugees to their original countries. It costs them lot less in long term anyway.

Everything must be done legally and with coordination.

This is the big problem that happens when iron man like Gadafi is removed and law and order breaks down in a huge coast line across the sea from southern Europe....same situation I guess in Syria...though of course the strongman held on to power there but the conflict rages on.

 

[The SC]

Didn't NATO attack Libya and Syria and stirred the Arab Spring? Since when Libyans or Syrians wanted to go to Europe in these numbers? they are mostly war refugees created by NATO interventions in Arab land, these two were singled out because they had socialist regimes and were opposed to Usrael..Libya has Oil and is very close to Europe hence very appetizing prospects Oil-wise.. Syria for its strategic position for Oil and Gas pipelines to Europe too..

 

[Nilgiri]

The sentiment of italians regarding african migrants has eroded so much, that they cheered towards one who killed himself in venice. He jumped into the water and people laughed and mocked him to swim home until he was dead.

That is very sad thing to hear that it has come to that. Erosion of the dignity of human life means the situation has frayed nerves to such an unbearable point.

I am glad Italy is taking steps. Sweden and quite possibly Germany may not be so lucky. I don't know which of those 2 is going to be the canary in the coalmine (and there is still time to prevent it) but it must be a sobering lesson to Europe as a whole when the catastrophe happens if it happens down the road.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

That is very sad thing to hear that it has come to that. Erosion of the dignity of human life means the situation has frayed nerves to such an unbearable point.

I am glad Italy is taking steps. Sweden and quite possibly Germany may not be so lucky. I don't know which of those 2 is going to be the canary in the coalmine (and there is still time to prevent it) but it must be a sobering lesson to Europe as a whole when the catastrophe happens if it happens down the road.

Germany too closed down and starts mass deportations even to afghanistan now. It looks like a social experiment for me and they started losing control, so now they reverse thrust. Europeans show more and more hate, vote far right and evryone knows how this would end.

Its good EU acts now. Its late but prevents a future desaster. Its important now, that quick action is shown. That results are delivered.

 

[Nilgiri]

Germany too closed down and starts mass deportations even to afghanistan now. It looks like a social experiment for me and they started losing control, so now they reverse thrust. Europeans show more and more hate, vote far right and evryone knows how this would end.

Its good EU acts now. Its late but prevents a future desaster. Its important now, that quick action is shown. That results are delivered.

Like I said, this year and next are very crucial years for western civilisation....and civilisation overall too.

I feel that there is finally going to be a general mass enlightenment to harsh realities and firm action taken upon it....rather than pretending the world is by default a 100% virtuous place guided by reason and wisdom.

Unraveling the delusion of today's ultra-leftist, ultra-globalist thought can then be done more strategically over time. It is heartening to see that today's youth are forming quite the counter culture against the PC-agenda shoved down their throats. It gives me hope....but the real battle is just beginning...and the war will not be a short one.

 

[Zibago]

Good, its about time.

Unfettered migration/refugees is a nightmare. Even Merkel is going to be deporting a record number this year (some say about 300,000) I heard...the people are speaking and the political virtue signalling hacks can't stop up their ears anymore.

Some migrants particularly from Africa didnt even have valod reasons i remembrr one woman said she migrated because she was poor another said she fled because she was forced to marry someone really is that a valid reason to seek asylum?
Its harming genuine Syrian immigranrs who really are under threat from Asad or Rebels

 

[Nilgiri]

Some migrants particularly from Africa didnt even have valod reasons i remembrr one woman said she migrated because she was poor another said she fled because she was forced to marry someone really is that a valid reason to seek asylum?
Its harming genuine Syrian immigranrs who really are under threat from Asad or Rebels

Also so many flow past initial entry area to deeper european countries. That puts a big hole in this being migration for safety/sanctuary as opposed to purely economic reasons (to countries that have most lax, accessbile welfare structure). Its literally welfare shopping basically in so many cases...this is the problem that merkel, sweden and few others really opened up for exploitation (as we see by sheer economic migrants posing with fake id as syrian etc).

You are right, this unfairly stresses and punishes genuine refugees from syria and libya warzones. Whole intake system has become a huge mess and has to be sorted out and reformed.