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Israel: Now One of the World's Top Military Weapons Manufacturers?

Could 2021 be a golden year of profits for high-tech Israeli defense companies?

by Seth J. Frantzman

Israeli defense technology is being increasingly incorporated by militaries from Asia to Europe. A series of defense deals by Israel and technology presented at Aero India in February 2021 illustrate how Israel’s new weapons are transforming the world of war.



In late January Boaz Levy, the CEO of Israel Aerospace Industries, said that his company sees India as one of its main partners. “This valued partnership is characterized by long-term cooperation, joint development and manufacturing, technology transfer and technical support over decades.” Israel’s IAI, one of its three defense giants, recently conducted a successful trial in India with its Medium-Range Surface-to-Air Missile (MRSAM) air defense system. IAI has made more than $5 billion in deals in India in the last five years. The company works closely to tailor its products to the “make in India” approach that New Delhi has pushed, meaning partnering with local companies. IAI is now showcasing its success in drones to the Indian market and countries that attend Aero India.

In some ways IAI’s current success with unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) is part of its legacy with drones, which it pioneered in the 1970s and 1980s when it first built the IAI Scout. Today drones are getting renewed attention after the war in Azerbaijan where the country used Israeli and Turkish drones with success. IAI makes the Mini Harpy, Rotem, as well as the larger Heron TP and Thunder B VTOL. Harpy is a type of loitering munition which means it is a cross between a drone and a cruise missile, loitering over a target or seeking out a target and then flying into it. IAI also sold its Heron MKII UAV to an unnamed central Asian country in January 2021. Hovering at up to 35,000 feet, the advanced UAV can fly for up to forty-five hours collecting communications and electronic intelligence alongside its usual surveillance capability.

Meanwhile Israel’s Elbit Systems said on January 26 that it would be supplying an unnamed country in Asia with light tanks, a deal valued at $172 million. Israeli companies often don’t reveal all the specifics of countries they sell to. The tanks being supplied are called “Sabrah” tanks, a Hebrew name that refers to a cactus which is tough on the outside and sweet on the inside. The tanks are based on a General Dynamics European Land Systems vehicle. It will be thirty-tons and combine a 105mm turret with a series of Elbit supplied technology and systems. Elbit sees the tank as part of its strong position in the armored vehicle market. In Israel, Elbit and other companies are working on a future armored fighting vehicle that will combine the latest technology and may be optionally manned or have a two-person crew. Israeli companies generally excel not at making whole large platforms but on all the applications and capabilities that can be added to vehicles or planes to give them better defenses and better optics and sensors. For instance, Israel’s Rafael Advanced Defense Systems makes the Trophy system that defends U.S. tanks from threats.





Elbit is also at Aero India with Rampage air-to-ground guided missiles, the Delilah long-range air-to-ground loitering missile and helicopter rocket launchers. In addition, Elbit is showcasing the LIZARD family of Laser/GPS Guidance Kits general purpose bombs, the MPR 500 multi-purpose rigid penetration and surface attack bomb as well as protection systems for planes and enhanced vision systems for helicopters. With countries in Asia seeking to modernize ground and air forces, these systems are well suited for a variety of states. Israeli companies are also attending IDEX in Abu Dhabi for the first time this year, potentially opening the door to lucrative Gulf defense budgets. Gulf countries are some of the biggest global spenders on new defense technology.



In Europe, Elbit also is supplying the United Kingdom with its future target acquisition solution for Joint Terminal Attack Controllers and Fire Support Teams under the Dismounted Joint Fires Integrators (D-JFI) program for the British Armed Forces. A $127 million five-year contract was announced in January. Elbit’s HattoriX, a lightweight target acquisition system for forward observers that uses artificial intelligence was also showcased to eight western European countries since its debut in 2018. It is used by Israel’s IDF since 2019. I saw the system when it was first rolled out. With optics and a touch screen pad, the operator can send coordinates of enemy positions easily. “The capability demonstrations in Europe were performed in urban locations and in open fields, in both day and night, simulating a variety of operational scenarios. During the demonstrations, users had the opportunity to experiment, firsthand, with the capability to passively and rapidly acquire Category 1 targets (Target Location error of few a meters), facilitating effective engagement of Time Sensitive Targets,” Elbit says.

The Slovenian Armed Forces recently fired Rafael’s Spike long range anti-tank missile from an Oshkosh Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV). This came days before U.S. forces did a live-fire drill with a Spike SR or short range missile. The Spike missile family is widely sold by Rafael already to thirty-five countries, including nineteen North Atlantic Treaty Organization countries. Used widely in Europe, there have been 33,000 Spike missiles sold and some 6,000 fired. The Israeli defense company sees the long-range version of Spike as a force multiplier for mobilized land forces with a range of 5.5 kilometers “enabling precision strike against armored targets with improved precision at extended ranges and beyond-line-of-sight.” Slovenia will get several dozen Oshkosh vehicles from the United States in 2021. They could be equipped with Israel’s fifth-generation missiles. From India to Slovenia, Israel’s defense footprint looks to grow in 2021.



Seth J. Frantzman is a Jerusalem-based journalist who holds a Ph.D. from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He is the executive director of the Middle East Center for Reporting and Analysis and a writing fellow at the Middle East Forum. He is the author of After ISIS: America, Iran and the Struggle for the Middle East (Gefen Publishing) and Drone Wars: Pioneers, Killing Machines, Artificial Intelligence and the Battle for the Future (Forthcoming Bombardier Books). Follow him on Twitter at @sfrantzman.
Image: Reuters.


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Indeed they are and Pakistan shot themselves in the foot by doing bhund panga by standing up for arabs who later grew stronger ties with them and now Pakistan can enjoy their latest weapons in Indian's hands.
 
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Is that a good sign or a bad sign for the Israeli economy?
don't nations that cannot compete in the private sector usually find themselves selling to gov't cabals as arms dealers.
Japan, SK, China mostly export goods the PEOPLE want. best manufacturers.
US, Germany and France export both second best manufacturers
does Russia export any manufactured goods besides weapons? not a competitive manufacturer
 
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Indeed they are and Pakistan shot themselves in the foot by doing bhund panga by standing up for arabs who later grew stronger ties with them and now Pakistan can enjoy their latest weapons in Indian's hands.

Your argument is based on the assumption that Israel would be happy to supply their advanced technology to Pakistan, and they also wouldn't mind US giving us advanced weapons. (assuming of course Pakistan had money to afford both).

Pakistan never lick as* as good as the Saudis and Emiratis do, who are never short of money either. Everyone knows they are the lapdogs of Americans because they depend on them to keep their filthy aces in power.

Saudis and Emiratis would never dare (cannot afford to) go against the wishes of US and Israel, and YET, they cannot have F35. Israel must always have a qualitative egde.

If they don't trust these arabs with their advanced weapons, why would they trust Pakistan?
 
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Is that a good sign or a bad sign for the Israeli economy?
don't nations that cannot compete in the private sector usually find themselves selling to gov't cabals as arms dealers.
Japan, SK, China mostly export goods the PEOPLE want. best manufacturers.
US, Germany and France export both second best manufacturers
does Russia export any manufactured goods besides weapons? not a competitive manufacturer
If you can't see the pattern, Israel is smaller than all of them, much smaller. Israel isn't much of a manufacturing state. It never tried to become a civilian competitive manufacturer (Only fields it could compete at is pharmaceuticals and diamond cutting).
In the civilian sector Israel develops technologies and sells startups for millions or billions of dollars (Mobilieye for 15 billion dollars, Playtika for 4.4 billion dollars, Mercury for 4.5 billion dollars, Waze, M-Systems and countless of smaller companies)

It is however a competitive military manufacturer, because it's much more specific and profitable, and Israel has a lot of military experience which allows it to best other products.
Saudis and Emiratis would never dare (cannot afford to) go against the wishes of US and Israel, and YET, they cannot have F35. Israel must always have a qualitative egde.
Israel literally allowed the Emirates to purchase the F-35 under Trump, Biden is doing problems with the deal
 
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Indeed they are and Pakistan shot themselves in the foot by doing bhund panga by standing up for arabs who later grew stronger ties with them and now Pakistan can enjoy their latest weapons in Indian's hands.
Pakistan stood for right.
We should be sheep
 
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If you can't see the pattern, Israel is smaller than all of them, much smaller. Israel isn't much of a manufacturing state. It never tried to become a civilian competitive manufacturer (Only fields it could compete at is pharmaceuticals and diamond cutting).
In the civilian sector Israel develops technologies and sells startups for millions or billions of dollars (Mobilieye for 15 billion dollars, Playtika for 4.4 billion dollars, Mercury for 4.5 billion dollars, Waze, M-Systems and countless of smaller companies)

It is however a competitive military manufacturer, because it's much more specific and profitable, and Israel has a lot of military experience which allows it to best other products.

Israel literally allowed the Emirates to purchase the F-35 under Trump, Biden is doing problems with the deal

Sweden; SAAB, Volvo, Ikea, Electrolux, Ericsson .... almost all consumer goods.
people who believe in selling to people. Finland; Nokia, Valtra Denmark; Carlsberg all small populations

"Competitive" in arms sales just means a willingness to sell for gov't debt, loot free people and provide a level of technology that is superior to what the foreign nation currently has. Gov't purchases are not a part of the free market. Israelis are doing well because they are fascists and slavers who are being allowed to exist in free societies.
 
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Sweden; SAAB, Volvo, Ikea, Electrolux, Ericsson .... almost all consumer goods.
people who believe in selling to people. Finland; Nokia, Valtra Denmark; Carlsberg all small populations

"Competitive" in arms sales just means a willingness to sell for gov't debt, loot free people and provide a level of technology that is superior to what the foreign nation currently has. Gov't purchases are not a part of the free market. Israelis are doing well because they are fascists and slavers who are being allowed to exist in free societies.
What's your point bro? Israel has countless of companies, part of which produce goods in Israel, and part of which produce goods outside of Israel, like Nokia which produces their phones in India, or Volvo which was bought by the Chinese and produces many of its vehicles there.

This isn't all about government purchases, Israeli arms industries does very well in the private sector too.

Wix, Fiverr, Waze are all commercial

Teva Pharmaceuticals, ICL are huge too.

Many more examples, each of those companies are at a similar scale to those you've mentioned
 
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What's your point bro? Israel has countless of companies, part of which produce goods in Israel, and part of which produce goods outside of Israel, like Nokia which produces their phones in India, or Volvo which was bought by the Chinese and produces many of its vehicles there.

This isn't all about government purchases, Israeli arms industries does very well in the private sector too.

Wix, Fiverr, Waze are all commercial

Teva Pharmaceuticals, ICL are huge too.

Many more examples, each of those companies are at a similar scale to those you've mentioned

All but one of the companies I mentioned are or were internationally significant powerhouses that, in the vast majority, sold to people not gov't.
Never heard of any of those Israeli companies.

Just different people, different beliefs.
 
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"Competitive" in arms sales just means a willingness to sell for gov't debt, loot free people and provide a level of technology that is superior to what the foreign nation currently has. Gov't purchases are not a part of the free market. Israelis are doing well because they are fascists and slavers who are being allowed to exist in free societies.
This tiny nation from the day of its birth was promised by 10-20 Arab countries consisting of populations 40 to 50 times Israel's that they would be driven into the sea and eliminated. These armies collectively attacked Israel twice and were defeated by Israel.
Israel cannot afford to be technologically backward in war machines even for a moment because the vultures are always circling.
They maintain that technological edge because its a matter of life or death for them. They do it through their superior ability , intelligence and focused dedication.
 
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All but one of the companies I mentioned are or were internationally significant powerhouses that, in the vast majority, sold to people not gov't.
Never heard of any of those Israeli companies.

Just different people, different beliefs.
Nokia is mainly a network infrastructure company, its main customers are governments.
Saab is an aerospace company as they stopped producing vehicles, selling military equipment, main customers are governments.
Valtra is manufacturing in Tanzania, Portugal and Brazil
Volvo is now owned by China and not Sweden, and is manufacturing in China
etc etc





Cope more bro :rofl:
Who has not heard of Wix, Fiverr and Waze? You would have to live under a rock. They're SaaS companies. Israel excels in SaaS (Software as a Service), which are way more profitable. Those services are meant for the private sector.

Besides, who cares if they're selling things for governments or to individuals or other corporations? Money is money.
 
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Nokia is mainly a network infrastructure company, its main customers are governments.
Saab is an aerospace company as they stopped producing vehicles, selling military equipment, main customers are governments.
Valtra is manufacturing in Tanzania, Portugal and Brazil
Volvo is now owned by China and not Sweden, and is manufacturing in China
etc etc





Cope more bro :rofl:
Who has not heard of Wix, Fiverr and Waze? You would have to live under a rock. They're SaaS companies. Israel excels in SaaS (Software as a Service), which are way more profitable. Those services are meant for the private sector.

Besides, who cares if they're selling things for governments or to individuals or other corporations? Money is money.
I wouldn't call Waze a SaaS company tho
 
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