Israel learned from Hezbollah's defeat at the hands of Turkey

[HAIDER]

Syria is a shit show.

Syria is

 

[Rafi]

Syria is

Still not getting tagged out.

 

[HAIDER]

Still not getting tagged out.

It is extended hour .... lolzzz

 

[500]

@zartosht

Hezbollah was most certainly involved in those hostilities.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234431914620211203

The accent around Assadist corespondent in Saraqib ordering him to go back is hezbie - Lebanese

 

[Yaseen1]

israel is not turkey and they cannot fight like turkish soldiers as they are oppressor and have wrong ideology unlike turkey.ALLAH ALMIGHTY Helps those who have true faith and fight for true cause,also there is high chance once turkey reaches at certain level of power they will fight with israel to support oppressed Palestinians and will free Jerasulum from israel occupation

 

[-SINAN-]

they will fight with israel to support oppressed Palestinians and will free Jerasulum from israel occupation

No, we won't fight against Israel. I would rather fight with Israel.

 

[Yaseen1]

erdogan has more inclination towards Islam and has repeatedly supported Palestinians in his speech so I think there is more chance that turkish army and majority of people will become a part of army which will liberate Jerasulum near end of times

No, we won't against with Israel. I would rather fight with Israel.

 

[Naram_Sin]

No, we won't against with Israel. I would rather fight with Israel.

You may proceed to replace the crescent from your avatar with the star of david.

And dont forget the one in the flag.

 

[-SINAN-]

You may proceed to replace the crescent from your avatar with the star of david.

And dont forget the one in the flag.

Nope, they represent my flag. My flag, my nation, my country, i care about them. Not for some other country's citizens.

 

[Aramagedon]

It first stated with the dictator killing his people for his trone, he just continues the legacy of his father, just on a new scale.
They have always been this cruel, long before Turkey was even involved in any of this mess to begin with.

It wasn't Turkey (supporting FSA, ISIS etc...) there would be no civil war in Syria.

BTW the vast majority of Syrian people support their government. Less than 10% of Syrian people have positive view about jihadi zombies: (2013)

https://www.voltairenet.org/article178779.html

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda


Turkey used to buy oil from ISIS for years:

https://observer.com/2016/02/deal-with-the-devil-turkey-props-up-isis-by-buying-its-stolen-oil/amp/

 

[raptor22]

There was an agreement and you broke it simple as that.


Yeah you are always the the good ones, pff joke of the century, tell its to 300k dead civilians by your and your allies hands in Syria alone.

Well back in 2012-13 while you next to Saudis Qataris american and UAE were supporting Salafi ALQ insurgency in Syria we offered diplomatic democratic approach to put an end to this drama:

Iran and Turkey's secret talks on Syria revealed

It says that in September 2013, three months after the election of pragmatist president Hassan Rouhani, Tehran presented Ankara with a peace proposal that had been formulated in consultation with Qassem Suleimani, the head of the powerful Quds Force of the Revolutionary Guard.

The plan envisaged a ceasefire followed by a national unity government and constitutional reform aimed at constraining presidential powers. Most importantly, there would then be presidential and legislative elections under UN supervision. The plan was the subject of several months of shuttle diplomacy between the Iranian foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, and his Turkish counterpart, Ahmet Davutoğlu, but it eventually collapsed over the future role of the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.

“We agreed on every detail, except a clause in the final phase of the plan which called for UN-monitored elections. Turkish leaders wanted Assad barred,” Zarif is quoted as saying in the report. “I noted that this should not be a concern in an internationally monitored election, particularly if, as Turkey holds, Assad has a dreadful record and a minority constituency. But Davutoğlu refused... and our efforts came to naught.”

According to the report, titled Turkey and Iran: Bitter Friends, Bosom Rivals, the Turkish government did not believe that Assad would accept any transition process that would weaken his grip on power and Ankara still thought his military defeat was inevitable.

The Turkish president at the time, Abdullah Gül, told the ICG “our government did not pursue an agreement with Iran because it thought Assad would be toppled in a few months”.

“From Ankara’s perspective, Assad’s battlefield losses would remove need to compromise or at least improve a deal’s terms,” the report said. ​

You guys refused such an approach that could eventually outseated Assad under delusion that his days are numbered ...

Moreover about breaking the deal:

Base on Sochi agreement terrorists should have been eradicated and withdrawal from Idlib (the elimination of all radical terrorist groups from the demilitarized zone by 15 October 2018 ,HTS aka Al-Nusrah and other al-Qaeda-affiliated groups) and also restoring transit traffic on the international highways(traffic, linking the government's stronghold on the coast with Aleppo before the end of that year.) , M5 (Aleppo-Hama) and M4 (Aleppo-Lattakia) That never happened, as insurgents refused to move away and allow joint Russian-Turkish patrols to protect the traffic there.​

So you had time and didn't do anything ... the point is Idlib belong to Syria and they make decision whether you could be there or not ... right now they wanna take control of their own lands ... what is wrong with that? if they wanna their lands back then it means your presence there is no more legitimate or requested be it in any from.

 

[Trench Broom]

israel is not turkey and they cannot fight like turkish soldiers

Well, they seemed to have done quite well to defeat their enemies so far.

But you're right. Israel is not Turkey. They can't fight like the Turks, because the whole world goes crazy when Israel fights and the UN meets within 20 minutes and the EU condemns them and the whole of Latin America and the OIC threaten the world with economic repercussions and the smelly left wing turds in Europe march in the streets.

No one cares when Turks squash Hez termites or Kurds, but as soon as Israel kicks the shin of an Arab - the world goes crazy.

The 2006 war with Lebanon was headline news on the BBC every single day for a month. Every single day.

So you're correct that Turks and the Arabs themselves have the privilege of waging any brutal war they like without barely a peep from the world.

 

[ARMalik]

Dozens of operatives from the elite unit died while fighting against Turkey in Syria's Idlib, the IDF says they watched and learnt from the battle.
By ANNA AHRONHEIM
MAY 21, 2020 17:32

Turkish and Russian soldiers wearing face masks are pictured during a joint patrol in the northern Idlib province, Syria, April 15, 2020
(photo credit: REUTERS)
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Israel watched the fighting between Hezbollah’s Radwan unit and Turkish forces in Syria’s Idlib province very closely, learning that the elite unit found it difficult to stand up to a conventional army.

In early February, Turkey’s military deployed tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and troops to Idlib to stop a Syrian regime offensive to retake the country’s last opposition stronghold, which was backed by hundreds of Hezbollah troops as well as Shi’ite militias supported by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).

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While Hezbollah has lost thousands of fighters since the Lebanese terror group entered the fighting on the side of Syrian regime President Bashar Assad, the Turkish operation in Idlib – which is roughly half the size of neighboring Lebanon – caused losses not seen in years.

The losses included countless operatives belonging to Hezbollah’s elite Radwan unit.

Israel’s military was able to identify several Radwan operatives killed during the fighting with Turkey by patches worn by the fighters.
The unit, named after Hezbollah’s military commander Imad Mughniyeh who was killed in Damascus in 2008 in an operation attributed to Israel, was established to carry out covert operations against Israel.

While operatives from the unit fighting in Syria for several years, gaining extensive operational experience, most have returned to south Lebanon.

Radwan operatives are expected to be at the forefront of any Hezbollah attack against Israel, infiltrating into Israeli communities along the border to kill as many civilians and troops as possible accompanied by a massive barrage of rockets, mortars, anti-tank missiles and more.

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Though Hezbollah has redeployed troops back to the border between Lebanon and Israel, the IDF does not believe that a pre-emptive strike against Radwan forces would be the right move at the moment.

Israel has been working to strengthen its northern border for several years, but due to financial restraints has only completed 14 kilometers of a concrete barrier along the Lebanese border. The remainder of the boundary with Lebanon is a fence that was originally built in the 1980s, and while sections of it have been upgraded several times, it is said to be in poor condition.

The fence provides the military with indications of breaches, which allows troops to quickly get to the scene, but senior officers have admitted that it would not stop infiltrations by Radwan operatives.

Due to the threat of infiltrations by Hezbollah, dozens of Israeli communities along the border with Lebanon are expected to be evacuated should a war break out.

The IDF, which claims that every third house in southern Lebanon is used for military purposes by the group, would focus on destroying the villages along the border to prevent additional Radwan operatives and weaponry to be used against Israel.

Nevertheless, while Israel does not believe that Hezbollah plans to provoke a war with Israel in the near future, the IDF is concerned that any major event which threatens the regime in Tehran, such as a miscalculation by Washington against Iran in the Persian Gulf or in Iraq, might lead Hezbollah to attack Israel.

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-...zbollahs-defeat-at-the-hands-of-turkey-628836

Hezb are only good at using Women and children as human shields while they fight street wars. By themselves, they are mere incompetents. And to use the word 'Elite' for them is laughable.

 

[Trench Broom]

Hezb are only good at using Women and children as human shields while they fight street wars. By themselves, they are mere incompetents. And to use the word 'Elite' for them is laughable.

Almost every civilian home near Israel's border with Lebanon houses Hez rockets. In 2006 they used the same tactic to fire katyushas from people's homes.

 

[mangekyo]

So the Israeli propaganda machine is saying Israel learned that Hezbollahs weakness is fighting a conventional army by watching them fight Turkey. But Hezbollah defeated Israel in two wars. Doesn’t Israel have a conventional army?

This article is bullshit, and the only thing Israel has learned is that Muslims will fight and kill each other over silly propaganda, even when the source is Israel. A Turkish member even said “we should work with Israel” after reading this propaganda.