Israel learned from Hezbollah's defeat at the hands of Turkey

[xenon54 out]

Those that prolong a war/battle due to pouring in arms, funding, setting up opposition camps in Istanbul are part of that number.

Can be said about Iran and hezbollah too.

how many died because of your proxies?? how many died because your proxies did not allow them to evacuate cities before bombing starts?? did you see the footage that HTS fires people who run away from their city with 23mm cannon?? it's easy to sell the narrative that shia iran wants to kill sunnis and every simple mind person would buy it. but if that was our intentions then why we helped Palestinians and Bosnians at the first place??

Who gives a shit about hts? You act like Turkey is responsible for them.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Can be said about Iran and hezbollah too.

That's the thing, you leave yourself out whilst blaming them. Blame them and include yourself.

 

[xenon54 out]

That's the thing, you leave yourself out whilst blaming them. Blame them and include yourself.

I look at the facts, its not Turkeys side that kills the civilians, i know you side with your shia brothers but the numbers are available to everyone.

You justify Irans involvement, a country that doesnt even share border with Syria, but blame Turkey that has legitimate security concerns and millions of refugees.
Come down of your high horse you guys are not the good guys in Syria, in fact you are the last ones to be the good ones

 

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Dozens of operatives from the elite unit died while fighting against Turkey in Syria's Idlib, the IDF says they watched and learnt from the battle.
By ANNA AHRONHEIM
MAY 21, 2020 17:32

Turkish and Russian soldiers wearing face masks are pictured during a joint patrol in the northern Idlib province, Syria, April 15, 2020
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Israel watched the fighting between Hezbollah’s Radwan unit and Turkish forces in Syria’s Idlib province very closely, learning that the elite unit found it difficult to stand up to a conventional army.

In early February, Turkey’s military deployed tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and troops to Idlib to stop a Syrian regime offensive to retake the country’s last opposition stronghold, which was backed by hundreds of Hezbollah troops as well as Shi’ite militias supported by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).

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While Hezbollah has lost thousands of fighters since the Lebanese terror group entered the fighting on the side of Syrian regime President Bashar Assad, the Turkish operation in Idlib – which is roughly half the size of neighboring Lebanon – caused losses not seen in years.

The losses included countless operatives belonging to Hezbollah’s elite Radwan unit.

Israel’s military was able to identify several Radwan operatives killed during the fighting with Turkey by patches worn by the fighters.
The unit, named after Hezbollah’s military commander Imad Mughniyeh who was killed in Damascus in 2008 in an operation attributed to Israel, was established to carry out covert operations against Israel.

While operatives from the unit fighting in Syria for several years, gaining extensive operational experience, most have returned to south Lebanon.

Radwan operatives are expected to be at the forefront of any Hezbollah attack against Israel, infiltrating into Israeli communities along the border to kill as many civilians and troops as possible accompanied by a massive barrage of rockets, mortars, anti-tank missiles and more.

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Though Hezbollah has redeployed troops back to the border between Lebanon and Israel, the IDF does not believe that a pre-emptive strike against Radwan forces would be the right move at the moment.

Israel has been working to strengthen its northern border for several years, but due to financial restraints has only completed 14 kilometers of a concrete barrier along the Lebanese border. The remainder of the boundary with Lebanon is a fence that was originally built in the 1980s, and while sections of it have been upgraded several times, it is said to be in poor condition.

The fence provides the military with indications of breaches, which allows troops to quickly get to the scene, but senior officers have admitted that it would not stop infiltrations by Radwan operatives.

Due to the threat of infiltrations by Hezbollah, dozens of Israeli communities along the border with Lebanon are expected to be evacuated should a war break out.

The IDF, which claims that every third house in southern Lebanon is used for military purposes by the group, would focus on destroying the villages along the border to prevent additional Radwan operatives and weaponry to be used against Israel.

Nevertheless, while Israel does not believe that Hezbollah plans to provoke a war with Israel in the near future, the IDF is concerned that any major event which threatens the regime in Tehran, such as a miscalculation by Washington against Iran in the Persian Gulf or in Iraq, might lead Hezbollah to attack Israel.

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-...zbollahs-defeat-at-the-hands-of-turkey-628836

Dude ...thousands of Hizbo fighters dead is huge number.... you need to come down little bit. Shia population is not that big in Lebanon....

 

[Mithridates]

Read again.

And read this charts, its simple.

and you believe it smart ***?? the main reason for high civilian casualties is bombing mission by airplanes. iran only operates drones.

 

[Philosopher]

I advise members to take posts regarding Iran, Hezbollah et cetra from "The Jerusalem Post" with as much salt as you can bear.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I look at the facts, its not Turkeys side that kills the civilians, i know you side with your shia brothers but the numbers are available to everyone.

You justify Irans involvement, a country that doesnt even share border with Syria, but blame Turkey that has legitimate security concerns and millions of refugees.
Come down of your high horse you guys are not the good guys in Syria, in fact you are the last ones to be the good ones

I am not Shia

Who instigated, organized, funded and armed the opposition early on in 2011, which led to all this mess. Is Turkey high on the list or not? The US had this plan and executed it through Turkey and Jordan, without these 2 it would be impossible.

Jordan is an American puppet to start with nothing new.

 

[Mithridates]

Who gives a shit about hts? You act like Turkey is responsible for them.

I'm sorry aren't they fighting for you in Libya?? weren't your soldiers right next to them and died because of Russian strike??
you are gonna look us in the eyes and lie??

 

[xenon54 out]

I am not Shia

Who instigated, organized, funded and armed the opposition early on in 2011, which led to all this mess. Is Turkey high on the list or not? The US had this plan and executed it through Turkey and Jordan, without these 2 it would be impossible.

Jordan is an American puppet to start with nothing new.

It first stated with the dictator killing his people for his trone, he just continues the legacy of his father, just on a new scale.
They have always been this cruel, long before Turkey was even involved in any of this mess to begin with.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

It first stated with the dictator killing his people for his trone, he just continues the legacy of his father, just on a new scale.
They have always been this cruel, long before Turkey was even involved in any of this mess to begin with.

Ba'ath regimes are always cruel, that's not new info. Saddam was, Bashar is, his dad was as well.

However, that was in Syria wouldn't have lasted long if Syria's neighbors Turkey and Jordan didn't pour in arms to groups. But they did.. they poured in arms.. this they prolonged the war, and it turned into many disasters. As for Iranian involvement, thinking about it. Had the SAA/regime fallen quickly your regime and that of your friends in the early 2010's would have extended the FSA plan to Iraq and caused a war there as well.

 

[xenon54 out]

Ba'ath regimes are always cruel, that's not new info. Saddam was, Bashar is, his dad was as well.

However, that was in Syria wouldn't have lasted long if Syria's neighbors Turkey and Jordan didn't pour in arms to groups. But they did.. they poured in arms.. this they prolonged the war, and it turned into many disasters. As for Iranian involvement, thinking about it. Had the SAA/regime fallen quickly your regime and that of your friends in the early 2010's would have extended the FSA plan to Iraq and caused a war there as well.

If my aunt had a beard she would have been my uncle.
That conflict would have continued without Turkish involvement anyways, you yourself say US has interests do you think they would stop if Turkey didnt involve?
Turkey had to be involved if it weants to secure its borders, otherwise we would have a huge pkk state on the border, well we still kind of have but at least there is a safe zone.
Turkeys involvement is more justified than any of the other foreign states, i wont even argue that with you.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

If my aunt had a beard she would have been my uncle.
That conflict would have continued without Turkish involvement anyways, you yourself say US has interests do you think they would stop if Turkey didnt involve?
Turkey had to be involved if it weants to secure its borders, otherwise we would have a huge pkk state on the border, well we still kind of have but at least there is a safe zone.
Turkeys involvement is more justified than any of the other foreign states, i wont even argue that with you.

US can't do much without using some of its neighbors. Jordan and Turkey enabled it. Just like the US couldn't invade Iraq if none of our neighbors enabled it.

You ought to remove JEW USA from your land.

 

[xenon54 out]

US can't do much without using some of its neighbors. Jordan and Turkey enabled it. Just like the US couldn't invade Iraq if none of our neighbors enabled it.

You ought to remove JEW USA from your land.

They would have used Iraq as their jumping board, Turkeys involvement might have helped but it was not essential, they still operate today without Turkeys support.

 

[Rafi]

Syria is a shit show.

 

[925boy]

So many, shia militants became fertilizer to Syrian Land...

Its not HIzb in that video btw.

Here comes another thread to twist the Syrian conflict Inside to suit a specific narrative.

I dont know how many Difinitive versions of Syrian war will come out.
1-Turkish war to secure borders
2-Turkish war to contain YPG
3- Turkisj campaign to save genocide of sunnis
4-Sunni struggle against Shia Slaughter
5-Syrian Government Counter Insurgency operatiob against Jihadi extremists
6-Irani and Russian war to secure Trade routes
7-US war to create another Israel
8-Israel/West backed terrorism against Syrian State

Man every one have his own interpretation of the war and everyone is absolutely sure his view is the right view

great post!!! its really true- everyone is seeing what they want to see in this Syrian conflict. wow...