Israel Has No Right To Exist

[nirreich]

Black Widow, really? Why not accommodate Israelis in the US and Canada instead? After all, They're very big countries with not so big populations. Canada is 9,984,670 km2 in size, with a population of 34,812,000 people. Can't they accommodate the few million Israelis in there instead?
After all, it was also Israel which decided to first attack in 1956 on Egypt, and in 1967 again on Egypt. Israelis don't have problems with Palestinians only, but with Lebanon and Syria. They occupy Sheba farms in Southern Lebanon, and Golan Heights. Those aren't Palestinian lands and they still occupy them, how shall we expect them to live there in peace after we remove Palestinians completely from there?
Also, Israel is a country that doesn't respect our holy sites. Israelis break into Al-Aqsa mosque every now and then, they allow only women and elderly men to enter Al Aqsa mosque. They arrest Palestinians every now and then in the West Bank ( even though, supposedly, their problem is only with Hamas and Hamas is only located in Gaza strip, with little to no presence in the West Bank ).
All of that and we can expect them to live in the middle east in peace?!

Your entire post is inaccurate.

First, Israel has a peace agreement with Egypt, so why Egypt is still filled with hatred towards Israel? Israel gave Egypt Exactly what it wanted - the entire Sinai Peninsula. Maybe the problem is not with Israel but with the irrational hatred in the Arab world against Israel? No matter what Israel will do, it will never satisfy people like you.

As for our wars with Egypt, it was Naser who threatened to destroy Israel, it was the Egyptian army which invaded Israel one day after its creation, so what are you complain about? That Israel did not let you defeat it?

As for Lebanon, the UN recognised that Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000, this Shabha Farm nonsense is just Hizbuahlla propaganda. If you really think that Hizbuallah will stop attacking Israel once the latter withdrew from that territory too then your disconnection from reality is even more serious - it will find another pretext to attack Israel (the Paelstinian suffering, blabla bla...).

As for the Golan, Israel offered Syria the same deal it offered Egypt: a full withdrawal for a full peaceful coexistence. Why you blaming Israel and no Syria for declining this offer? It was good enough for Egypt, no?

As for Israel's operation in the West Bank, contrary to your argument, Hamas has a lot of support in that area too. Without Israel's operations Fatah would not last long in that area. Is that what you what to happen?

And of course all you nonsense about breaking into Al Aqsa and so forth are figments of your immagination. The restictions on entering the mosques is a result of the irresponsible behaviour of your Palestinians friends who took advantage of the free access to the mosques in order to organise riots including attacking Jewish prayers in the old city of Jerusalem.

Again, you didn't say why the Palestinians should have accepted the Jewish immigrants, when the Israelis don't accept African immigrants. Both went to their respective countries in an illegal way, so African immigrants are in no way more illegal that Jewish immigrants.
In case you haven't noticed, every now and then there are battles close to Egyptian-Israeli borders in an Egyptian attempt to prevent them sneaking into your land, our soldiers are killed while they are preventing them from immigrating to their land and you call us incompetent!

And yet tens of thousands of them are in Israel, about 1,500 crossing each month! Please explain how it is possible without the incompetent of your security forces.

As for the Jewish immigration to British Palestine, it was accepted and recognised by the international community because it was part of the vision of creating a Jewish homeland in the holy land. Britain received the Mandate from the League of Nation in the sole purpose to create a Jewish state there. Mind you - there was no Palestinian nation until the 1920's! The African infiltrators are just job seekers, like they try to get into Europe for better life.

 

[Tacit Wave]

According to UN Security Council resolutions, Kashmir is also occupied by Pakistan, then why Pakistan do not withdraw from its occupied territories?

Hypocrisy at its best.

There is also United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 about palestine But you will never talk about this Resolution.
Kashmir is a land of kashmir's people. what about land of Palestinians ?
wonder! who is using this word Hypocrisy. hypocrisy was a basic element of israel's creation. huh
Isreal has highest number of nuclear weapons,big supplier of weapons but he is stopping iran for world peace.it's called hypocrisy.
P.s. no more discussion with people like you.

 

[DRaisinHerald]

According to UN Security Council resolutions, Kashmir is also occupied by Pakistan, then why Pakistan do not withdraw from its occupied territories?
Hypocrisy at its best.

You can't call it occupying when the people themselves want to be with Pakistan
The land of Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris, they simply want their land to become part of the federation called Pakistan.

Palestinians? They don't want to be part of 'Israel'; they want and need a country of their own.

 

[nirreich]

There is also United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 about palestine But you will never talk about this Resolution.
Kashmir is a land of kashmir's people. what about land of Palestinians ?
wonder! who is using this word Hypocrisy. hypocrisy was a basic element of israel's creation. huh
Isreal has highest number of nuclear weapons,big supplier of weapons but he is stopping iran for world peace.it's called hypocrisy.
P.s. no more discussion with people like you.

So you admit that Pakistan is holding to occupied territories, I am glad we sorted it out for the next time you will decide to discuss occupation. BTW, most of the Kashmir people prefer not to be part of Pakistan, right? So Pakistan should stop oppressing the fundamental rights of the Kashmir people for self determination, otherwise it has no right to exist.

As for resolution 194, you should read it before talking about it, you might not like it so much. The Arab countries voted against it, I wonder why...

 

[nirreich]

You can't call it occupying when the people themselves want to be with Pakistan
The land of Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris, they simply want their land to become part of the federation called Pakistan.

Palestinians? They don't want to be part of 'Israel'; they want and need a country of their own.

If Pakistan is so sure that the Kashmir people want to be part of Pakistan, then why it never allowed the national referendum to take place and withdrew her forces from occupied Kashmir? Because, as I am sure you know, most Kashmiris do not want to be part of Pakistan (and who can blame them...).

Israel offered and support the creation of a Palestinian state side by side with Israel and not instead of Israel. If you agree to this objective then you should ask the Palestinians to accept it too and give up their demands of Israel to become another Palestinian state.

 

[Solomon2]

British Muslims for Israel - a lone voice of sanity - YouTube

 

[blackout]

Israel Has No Right To Exist !!!!!!!!!! omg
as long as America, Europe and India exist, the existence of Israel cannot be questioned... but i seriously have doubts about the muslim countries especially "the one".

 

[punit]

You can't call it occupying when the people themselves want to be with Pakistan
The land of Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris, they simply want their land to become part of the federation called Pakistan.

Palestinians? They don't want to be part of 'Israel'; they want and need a country of their own.

really and people of balochistan ?? why no country for them ?

 

[Bond]

 

[Black Widow]

Black Widow, really? Why not accommodate Israelis in the US and Canada instead? After all, They're very big countries with not so big populations. Canada is 9,984,670 km2 in size, with a population of 34,812,000 people. Can't they accommodate the few million Israelis in there instead?
After all, it was also Israel which decided to first attack in 1956 on Egypt, and in 1967 again on Egypt. Israelis don't have problems with Palestinians only, but with Lebanon and Syria. They occupy Sheba farms in Southern Lebanon, and Golan Heights. Those aren't Palestinian lands and they still occupy them, how shall we expect them to live there in peace after we remove Palestinians completely from there?
Also, Israel is a country that doesn't respect our holy sites. Israelis break into Al-Aqsa mosque every now and then, they allow only women and elderly men to enter Al Aqsa mosque. They arrest Palestinians every now and then in the West Bank ( even though, supposedly, their problem is only with Hamas and Hamas is only located in Gaza strip, with little to no presence in the West Bank ).
All of that and we can expect them to live in the middle east in peace?!

Answer lies in the question. coz canadians are not warring with lush green arab world. as one of member mentioned above, arab don't care about palestinians, they just want create terrorism in world in the name of israel.



some israeli member may be 500 will tell u better about your land grab claim and first strike claim.

 

[Bhairava]

India and Israel are the same things


1. Both have done massive human rights violations. India (Kashmir), Israel (Palestine).

2. Both support terrorist organizations inside other country's...

3. Both are very close to the US

4. Both act secular but they really only care for their indigenous religion

5. Both are racist over skin color

6. Both think they are superpower yet they have little to no influence to the rest of the world.

7. Both armies have been raped in atleast one war

8. Both India and Israel haters have average IQ of 60.

9. Both their arch rivals [Pakistan in case of India and Arab world in case of Israel] have been raped in all wars.

 

[Juice]

No Gambit ill give u new 2012 sign's

Nice storm Front material, see what they say about muslims.

What do think the Christian terrorists like Breivik are preaching?

He will do it from a cell, and his family won't be treated like Heroes.

 

[saleen_s7]

Israel Has No Right To Exist !!!!!!!!!! omg
as long as America, Europe and India exist, the existence of Israel cannot be questioned... but i seriously have doubts about the muslim countries especially "the one".

America, Europe and INDIA? You are delusional. Existence of India is pretty much irrelevant to Israel.

 

[Juice]

Black Widow, really? Why not accommodate Israelis in the US and Canada instead? After all, They're very big countries with not so big populations. Canada is 9,984,670 km2 in size, with a population of 34,812,000 people. Can't they accommodate the few million Israelis in there instead?
After all, it was also Israel which decided to first attack in 1956 on Egypt, and in 1967 again on Egypt. Israelis don't have problems with Palestinians only, but with Lebanon and Syria. They occupy Sheba farms in Southern Lebanon, and Golan Heights. Those aren't Palestinian lands and they still occupy them, how shall we expect them to live there in peace after we remove Palestinians completely from there?
Also, Israel is a country that doesn't respect our holy sites. Israelis break into Al-Aqsa mosque every now and then, they allow only women and elderly men to enter Al Aqsa mosque. They arrest Palestinians every now and then in the West Bank ( even though, supposedly, their problem is only with Hamas and Hamas is only located in Gaza strip, with little to no presence in the West Bank ).
All of that and we can expect them to live in the middle east in peace?!

Tiny populations? US ia third most populous nation on earth. Where is Egypt?

 

[ZABASHO]

America, Europe and INDIA? You are delusional. Existence of India is pretty much irrelevant to Israel.

you live in England for God knows how long, yet have yet to get a basic grasp of english language. Brain fart!