Israel builds up deep-sea navy

[prototype]

Iran is a HUUUUGE country. israel is not.

I don't think israel has the capacity to deal with the repercussions of an attack on Iran. Don't forget that they have their proxies and pro-Iran groups -- Hezbollah being one of them. Can israel handle offensive missions far away when at home domestically there would likely be 2 war fronts (possibly from Gaza as well as from Southern Lebanon?

israel wouldnt be worried about war supplies, as U.S. would quickly come to its aid and priority-rush shiploads of weapons (like they did in 2006). But even then, can a very small country like israel really afford a possible war against Iran?




p.s. sending submarines towards the Hormuz Straits/Persian Gulf waters would not be defensive at all. It would be an offensive maneuver. Then you can't say that Iran is being aggressive if israel is the one making these political and militaristic maneuvers.

is that not a fair statement?

i think israel is the same tiny country which defeated 5 arab nations alone in 1948 arab israel war and send four of these nations back to stone age in the six day war,again thrashed 3 of them in the Yom Kippur war,who care really if israel is a small nation

 

[pak-yes]

How in the world Germans agreed to give away Type 212.I mean aren't these subs restricted only for usage by the Germans themselves.

 

[ARCHON]

i think israel is the same tiny country which defeated 5 arab nations alone in 1948 arab israel war and send four of these nations back to stone age in the six day war,again thrashed 3 of them in the Yom Kippur war,who care really if israel is a small nation

i think the word small is applicable to Pakistan also.

 

[adir]

How in the world Germans agreed to give away Type 212.I mean aren't these subs restricted only for usage by the Germans themselves.

If you want to get an answer ask germany prime minister

 

[Luftwaffe]

birdofprey....small Atami Pakistan can you dig it idiot!

 

[indian_warrior]

Good news. Strong Israel is good for middle east stability.

At least Arab countries got a common enemy otherwise they will fight and kill among them self.

 

[prototype]

birdofprey....small Atami Pakistan can you dig it idiot!

i think u forget,we already dig it

 

[pak-yes]

If you want to get an answer ask germany prime minister

No Need to ask anybody.Zionists are master of Persuasion.

 

[ARCHON]

birdofprey....small Atami Pakistan can you dig it idiot!

Please use nice language. no personal insults. If you dont have an answer , stay quiet.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

By what account is Hazbollah an army, its a Terrorist organisation and a Militia at the best.
Dont call them an army, which is such a shame.

i wont call them terrorist because Hezbollah is primarily a political party in Lebanon, which happens to have a huge backing by the people -mostly Shiite Muslims and Maronite Christians, along with substantial number of people of different sectarian background in the country.

(i bring up sect because it is relevant in a country like Lebanon, alas).

They have seats in Parliament, and function as a political party. They do have the Armed Wing of Hezbollah. Their modus-operandi is pretty much in line with that of a national army; though they do employ guerilla tactics wherever they lack militarily in the face of a much much better armed and financed israeli army.

Hezbollah inflicted most of its casualties on israeli service men (as opposed to civilians) -- even though Hezbollah was firing unguided rockets blindly at civilian areas in Haifa and even Tel Aviv.

israel's wanton disregard for Lebanese civilian human life deems Hezbollah actions as semi-legitimate (from a neutral, non-affiliated standpoint).


Same actually applies to HAMAS. They are democratically elected by the people of Gaza, Palestine.

West (especially America) seems keen to promote (even export) democratic ideals throughout the world, do they not?



now lets get back on subject. Why does israel not get bound by similar arms controls that other ''allied'' countries like Egypt, Jordan, UAE etc. have a much more difficult time getting?

Lets forget about Iran, since they are forced to domestically produce their equipments due to sanctions and stringent arms-export controls.


i just don't like double standards --- who really is the aggressor here?


I don't even have anything against israel. I hate her policies and the unacceptable occupation of Palestine and treatment of Palestinians (and Lebanese). But I 'have nothing personal against israel; and in fact I wish we had some limited contact with them since we might gain a few things from them.










p.s. it was israel that helped create HAMAS as a counter to the PLO


ahhh the irony!

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Good news. Strong Israel is good for middle east stability.

right!

At least Arab countries got a common enemy otherwise they will fight and kill among them self.

great logic

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

i think israel is the same tiny country which defeated 5 arab nations alone in 1948 arab israel war and send four of these nations back to stone age in the six day war,again thrashed 3 of them in the Yom Kippur war,who care really if israel is a small nation

you conveniently forget that the Arab nations were not getting their supply of arms and other equipment needed for re-supplying.....unreliable allies

(sounds all too familiar)




israel on the other hand was getting shiploads of free weapons


i personally think that the performance was upsetting; bad military tactics, insufficient supplies and missed opportunities

Egypt did fare well, they managed to snatch back much of the Suez/Sinai lands during yom kippur hostilities under leadership of Anwar Sedat.

 

[adir]

No Need to ask anybody.Zionists are master of Persuasion.

lol
we pay for what we buy we are not poor country like a country that start with p.

And for hizballah and hamass both of tham are terrorist because they only target civliance with thire rokets.

 

[adir]

you conveniently forget that the Arab nations were not getting their supply of arms and other equipment needed for re-supplying.

What a lie they get alot and more good stuff the we did from the soviet.
They have T-55 we have a world war 2 tanks

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

lol

we pay for what we buy

WASHINGTON: Just before Christmas, the US President, Barack Obama, signed into law one of his country's biggest aid pledges of the year. It was bound not for Africa or any of the many struggling countries on the World Bank's list.

It was a deal for $US2.77 billion ($3 billion) to go to Israel in 2010 and a total of $US30 billion over the next decade.

Israel is bound by the agreement to use 75 per cent of the aid to buy military hardware made in the US: in the crisis-racked US economy, those military factories are critical to many towns.
For the first time the US is also providing $US500 million to the Palestinian Authority, including $US100 million to train security forces, under the strict proviso that the authority's leadership recognises Israel.

American military aid to Israel

we are not poor country like a country that start with p.

Yes, israel is not poor.

Occupied Palestine is

Most of this money should be diverted towards aid for Palestine in my opinion. They are in much more dire need for aid --considering that israel blockades any form of international aid going into Palestine --especially Gaza Strip. You even control their water supplies and electricity.

And for hizballah and hamass both of tham are terrorist because they only target civliance with thire rokets.

what did israel do in 2006 and 2008?

you didn't use katyushas, you used cluster and phosphorous bombs in highly concentrated civilian areas


scores of civilians were killed -- according to news reports it was mostly women and children.



I don't want to sensationalize this topic; but you need to do some introspection my israeli friend!



Shalom!