MastanKhan said:
Hi Wadawada,
Are you just writing what you read about the laws of judaism or you have some significant information about the people and their unity.
there are laws in torah and especially in talmud about absolute solidarity.
the history of jews have made these laws almost as absolute as the choseness idea.
these laws are confirmed and protected effectivly by the special nature of judaism: an ethnical religion. as you probably know, you are a jew if your mother is a jew. practicing or not have no single importance. conversion is rare, far from beign universally accepted and converts are seen generally with suscpicion.
the ethno-religious nature of judaims means that beign a jew is mostly belonging to a people, and a religion made FOR this people.
the other religions make distinction based on "cultural" principles : "kaffir" and heretic both mean unbeliever. but for jews, goyim is NON jew (some traslations say less than human = beni adam, some say impure etc... but the most important here is that it is an ethnical disticntion above all). this distinction is confirmed in the jewish laws that make difference between laws between jew, laws betwee, jews and goyims, and laws between goyims.
this is why jewish solidarity is multi-level, religious, ethno-nationalist and based on interests (mutual support and help).
this is why it is one of the strongest (which have its positive sides and negative sides) ethno-religious communities.
If there was peace, they would be at each others throats.
there are deep diffenrece and a healthy POV diversirt in jewish communities. but in 99% of the cases, jews agree on the objectives and principles. the ONLY disagreements are on the methods to achieve them : diplomacy ? war ? pressure ? ...
The financial aid would dry out. The subsidies would be taken away. Their internal rifts, which are very obvious now, would come out with a greater force. The white russian jews are a very rascist people---. It is not neccessary that they would go on a killing spree of their other sects, like muslims do or the catholics and protestants did it in ireland, but there will be visible lines that would divide them.
sorry, but you are deeply wrong. financial aidn they would still have it. just recently, israel said that germany had to pay -again- 300 BILLIONS $$$. just the last month, an court in usa ruled -again- that some jews have the rioght to sue german companies to be "dedomaged". israel receives all kind of help, of which $$$ is only the apparent tip of the icebeg. don't be mistaken and confuse economy and finance : finance COULD shrink, but economy would still be heavily supported. simply because OUTSIDE israel, jewish community is healthy, and there are many great/rich/influent entrepreneurs....
Now, at this stage, with peace, israel will not fall apart, because over the last 30 plus years they have realized the hatred that the middle easterns have for them----their guard has been up for too long----their trust level has waned out completely----now it would have been a different story if there was peace after the 73 war. Israel and Palestine recognizing each other. Syria just another neighbour------israel would have been an open country----the jews would have made investments in the muslim countries----a lot of migration of mind, men and money.
first that was impossible. just imagine that jews invade pakistan because "their" god told them they have this right in "their" religious book. and tell me then if you would be a pacifist for teh next 50 years.
this scenario, based on impossible bases, can only give impossible results :
basically, it says, if israel was not thretened (rememebr : the jewish trerorism before the declaration of israel, Betar, Irgun, and other organisation taht are still alive in and outside israel (look in wikip); the coopeation of uisrael with anti arab imperialist forces (france, uk). now how wuld you see that kind of country ?) israelis woudl never have nbeen agressive.
problem : israel is NOW the 4th piolitary super power. an untouchable political and mediatic power. NOW isrzel coudl give back everything stolen and not only no one woudl have athe jujstification nor the means nor the support to attack israel, but also israel would achiove 100% sympathy of the usa and especially europe. why israelis are not doing that ? because they must in all the time. they're their god chosen and cannot accept to "lose". how can you deal with an agressive entity ? only with more agression... you have no choice. eitehr that, or be submitted, like a goyim...
This shia sunni hatred has not been fueled by the wahabism but was started by Khomeini. Saddam didnot need wahabis to persecute shia's.
man, the shiaa sunni hatred is as old as islam, and then took an ethno-civilisational aspect. but in recent history, the panrabists, who we secualr, but belonged to the sunni "civilisations" have since the 20's forced kurds, persians, turkomen, armenians and assyrians of iraq and syria to "convert" to arabism. the were great persian and assyrian minorites, but now iraq is fully arab because of that. the wahabism, as an extreme mixture between arabism and sunnism, is the continuation of that. khomeini himself is not full shiaa, because he tried to make a "soft" shiaa, very influenced by sunnism indeed. in fact, this was mixture of problems, because wahabis were extremely pro americans (and vice versa, agaisnt iran, and soviets, and panrabists/secular nationalists/anti-israelis leftists...), and tragically, it happened that iran, after all the sh***t that G.B and USA have did to it, was extremely anti american. and here everybody falling in the eternal stupid trap "the ennemy of my ennemy is mu ally, and the ally of my ennemy is my ennemy"...
however i'm not attacking nor defending anybody. and the best and ONLY viable solution for islam is inter-solidarity (not to be confused with uniformity or unity).
i'll try to find the image...
