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In Breivik, troubling echoes of West's view of Islam - CNN.com

(CNN) -- The trial of mass murderer Anders Breivik has confirmed one thing so far: He seems quite mad. Looking plump and dumb, with a slightly receding hairline, the Norwegian gave a right-wing salute as he entered the courtroom and smirked his way through CCTV footage of his handiwork.

Breivik claims that he killed 77 people as an act of self-defense against the Islamification of Norway, that he is a member of the Knights Templar and part of an "anticommunist" resistance to multiculturalism. Reading his insane manifesto, it is tempting to dismiss him as a nut with a gun.

Nevertheless, there's no denying the political context to what Breivik did. Since 9/11, fringe and mainstream politicians in Europe and America have spoken of Islam as incompatible with Western values. Breivik quoted many of them in his manifesto. This is not to say that he took direct inspiration from those public figures, or that they bear personal responsibility for his crimes. But Breivik's paranoia does conform to a popular -- wholly negative -- view of the twin problems of Islam and multiculturalism. Tragically, it is a view that few mainstream politicians have been willing to challenge.

Breivik makes two false claims. The first is that Islam is ethically inferior to Christianity and cannot exist peacefully within the secular democracies of the post-Enlightenment West. That is the open view of the Dutch Party for Freedom, the French National Front, the English Defense League and the Finnish True Finns. It was implicit in Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain's aversion to the building of mosques. We might also infer it from much of the testimony presented at Rep. Peter King's congressional hearings into the radicalization of American Muslim youth. King has opined that there are "too many mosques" in the United States and that roughly 80% of American Muslims are radical.

Timothy Stanley

The mistake being made by all these people is to conflate a tiny minority of political Islamists -- whose precise ideology has only really emerged in the last 30 years -- with the entire global and historical community of Muslims. It is true that Islam has never undergone a total Reformation, but it has experienced mini-enlightenments. The most celebrated is the Islamic Golden Age (750- 1258), centered in Baghdad, in which the arts and sciences flourished in a manner that left Dark Ages Europe far behind. (You can also find humanist poetry and art in Persia and even a small amount of erotica in Northern Africa.)

Islam never outright rejected scientific empiricism but instead tried to reconcile and integrate it into its religious beliefs, with a surprising amount of debate about the primacy of either faith or reason. It preached that divine revelation could be found in other religions and so practiced tolerance in the lands that it conquered -- a kind of Islamic multiculturalism. One of the giants of the European Enlightenment, Voltaire, favorably opined that Islam was more tolerant in its treatment of minorities than Christianity (consider the comparative persecution of Catholics in Ireland or of Jews in Spain).

Today, Islamic society looks different in every region where it is found. The royal families of Saudi Arabia have promoted ultra-conservative Wahhabism, which discourages personal vice, idolatry, veneration of saints, etc. The Bangladeshis prefer the more mystical Sufism, which places greater emphasis upon a subjective experience of Allah and is traditionally more tolerant of human foibles and dissent.

Almost every part of the Islamic world has produced progressive movements, some headed by women. Pakistan gave the world Benazir Bhutto and Indonesia Megawati Soekarnoputri. In all cases, the political development of Muslim countries has been as much shaped by poverty and the legacy of colonialism as it has Islam. Iran might have continued on a course toward liberalism had the West not sponsored an anti-democratic coup in 1953.

In short, there is no monolithic Islamic history or experience, which makes it hard or even disingenuous to talk about the challenge that Islam as a whole poses to the West. Put another way, no American would want anyone to think that the Westboro Baptist Church spoke for all of Christianity.

Breivik's second, equally fallacious claim is that Islam's growth in the West has been encouraged by liberal elites as a means to destroy traditional Christian culture. Indeed, multiculturalism has been strongly critiqued by two British prime ministers -- Tony Blair and David Cameron. Cameron said that it had "failed" because it did not demand submission to the liberal principles of gender and sexual equality.

But multiculturalism is not a Marxist ideology carefully plotted by the "Saul Alinksy radicals" so loathed by Newt Gingrich. Rather, it was free-market economics and globalization that caused the mass migration of Muslims from East to West -- and multiculturalism was simply a policy response. The aim was to protect the cultural integrity of both host and guest populations by allowing them separate spaces in which to develop.

Far from intending to threaten the religious or civil liberties of the majority Christian population (which remains vastly superior in numbers), the goal was to create a common framework of laws but otherwise leave everyone to their own devices. If Christianity has declined in the West, it's the fault of the Christians who stopped going to church -- not the small groups of Muslims quietly attending their local mosque.

And yet Muslims in Western countries now live under the pressures of anti-terrorist surveillance and social ostracism. They are forced to defend their Britishness, their Frenchness or their Americaness -- even if they are third- or fourth-generation citizens of those countries. Breivik's attack has raised the threat level against the West's Muslims: They are now the target of our politically engaged sociopaths.

Given how widespread the condemnation of both Islam and multiculturalism is across the West, perhaps it is apt to describe Breivik as a symptom of Western psychological angst. It is a condition of neurosis about decline and paranoia about foreign invasion that is in desperate need of remedy.
 
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Every Action has equal and Opposite reaction " - Sir Newton was Right :rolleyes:

I Watched a documentary on Norway Massacre a while back - this guy Breivik is not an Insane or Mentally unstable guy !! He planned this over Months
 
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Every Action has equal and Opposite reaction " - Sir Newton was Right :rolleyes:

I Watched a documentary on Norway Massacre a while back - this guy Breivik is not an Insane or Mentally unstable guy !! He planned this over Months

yes and his actions were a direct reaction of how western leaders and media perpetually degrade Islam and muslims.....
 
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The mistake being made by all these people is to conflate a tiny minority of political Islamists -- whose precise ideology has only really emerged in the last 30 years -- with the entire global and historical community of Muslims. It is true that Islam has never undergone a total Reformation, but it has experienced mini-enlightenments.
Is this not an example of "damning with faint praise"?
 
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yes and his actions were a direct reaction of how western leaders and media perpetually degrade Islam and muslims.....

the blame goes to Some Extreme Islamic factions all over the world.I Don't hold any disrespect to any religion but this Groups are solely Responsible for degradation of Islam and it effects Common people of the community all over
 
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why blame the west or any one, if some thing is wrong with some one, you have to look inwards to find where the root of the issue is, and the same applies to ISLAM or any other religion.
Blaming some one else for our failure to address the problem at hand just shows that we are incapable or blatantly impotent.
 
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the blame goes to Some Extreme Islamic factions all over the world.I Don't hold any disrespect to any religion but this Groups are solely Responsible for degradation of Islam and it effects Common people of the community all over
yup..those groups are killing innocent people just for their profit and they are using a cloak of Islam..Islam doesn't support killing Innocent people..they are disgracing Islam.may be they day is not far when we'll see modern version of "Crusade"...and they'll be solely responsible for this loss..
 
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Thread Title is wrong

and what would be the correct title...genius?

So from all the above comments i take that you guys will be angry is a Muslim criticizes west,but will be glad if it happens the other way round?

Now years of Propaganda against Islam and Muslims is having its effect on people....Anders Breivik being a shining example.
 
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why blame the west or any one, if some thing is wrong with some one, you have to look inwards to find where the root of the issue is, and the same applies to ISLAM or any other religion.
Blaming some one else for our failure to address the problem at hand just shows that we are incapable or blatantly impotent.
First of all, Only one question... why Shraukh khan and Nuclear scientest were specially stoped in U.S airports.. everyone know that they are well known personalities all around the world?
 
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First of all, Only one question... why Shraukh khan and Nuclear scientest were specially stoped in U.S airports.. everyone know that they are well known personalities all around the world?

Actually a Terrorist called Riyaz Bhatkal [Currently said to be in Pakistan] has been Travelling all over with a Proxy name "SRK",so whenever any Airport in the world comes across a Name "Shah Rukh Khan" an Alert is sounded and that person is made to go under security check !! this is the technical reason

this was 2nd time for SRK

It's a standard procedure,but they should be careful with the VIP's :D
 
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First of all, Only one question... why Shraukh khan and Nuclear scientest were specially stoped in U.S airports.. everyone know that they are well known personalities all around the world?
After 9/11 now every one who enters US and bears the name that is Islamic is being checked for their identity, But the case of SRK and APJ, I litrally don't know why these guys were racist on their part.
 
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truth is this though, people wont admit this but at the end of the day if you look at all the terrorist attacks done by muslims, its nothing compared to the how many people who the west have killed through their unjust wars. E.g the Iraq war alone which was Illegal alone killed more people then any Islamic terrorist attack in the last 30 - 50 year.

Also who gets to define terrorism? why isnt the iraq war also called an act of terrorism? not just that but it is also economic terrorism and political terrorism - please dont tell me that Oil had nothing to do with this war, on the same note dont tell me that new leaders of iraq are not puppets of the west who have been hand picked by NATO.
 
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Of course west encourages terrorism. have you seen them win or try winning any hearts and minds anywhere in the world??
 
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