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Is Pakistan Too Big to Fail? l -WSJ

The tipping point is coming within 5 to 10 years. I do fear the consequences but empires fall and new ones replace them. But the good thing is that starving in india and pakistan will not starve any more than they are doing and those like palestinians that are suffering injustices by zionists and americans will benefit. Silver lining to the cloud I suppose.


5-10 years is too soon.. I will be surprised if it happens in next 20-25 years even.. The crisis is purely of a fiscal nature and not of net worth. The disposable assets in USA themselves are huge and they havent been even touched yet. Plus do not forget the whole deal about USA having the biggest oil reserves in the world which are not even tapped..

Also a key point missed while talking about 14 trillion dollars of US debt is that out of the 14 trillion, close to 10 trillion is held by the USA citizens themselves.. which points to bad fiscal situation of the govt but not that much of the country.. Compare it with an individual who owes 4 trillion dollars to the world and has assets worth many times that..

So while USA is in a crunch situation at this time, estimating a tipping point in 5-10 years is a little too optimistic on your part..
 
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Exactly right. Being reliant on aid leads to a "crutch mentality".

China's economy grew the fastest when we were under sanctions from the West (after the Tiananmen incident).

Aid from America is only weakening Pakistan, they would be much stronger without it. Pakistan could have one of the strongest economies in the developing world, if only their politicians carried out the necessary economic reforms.

Yes, yes it is not poor fundamentals that cripple you, it's the AID! Just take away the aid and all will get fixed magically.
 
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Exactly right. Being reliant on aid leads to a "crutch mentality".

China's economy grew the fastest when we were under sanctions from the West (after the Tiananmen incident).

Aid from America is only weakening Pakistan, they would be much stronger without it. Pakistan could have one of the strongest economies in the developing world, if only their politicians carried out the necessary economic reforms.

US aid helped Pakistan from 1950s.

US military equipment and training turned PA from a poorly trained aisian army into a well trained, professional army.

high quality US weapons were reason why Pakistan could offer resistance to huge IA in 1965 war.

US also helped Pakistan in agriculture.

don't blame US. its incompetent Rawalpindi that has failed in enhancing Pakistan's economic power.
 
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"With ISI support, Haqqani operatives planned and conducted that truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy," he said.
Oh really? Has the US of A provided any proof of this? Any incontrovertible evidence? This is just a deduction that the Americans have arrived at because of the Haqqani - ISI links.

Playing Devil's advocate here, why should Pakistan go after the Haqqanis when they are not harming Pakistan's national interests? Because if the do, then they would not only lose leverage in a future Afghan government but also become victims of retaliatory action by the Haqqanis resulting in a blood bath in Pakistan, as if the TTP weren't enough.
 
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It matters because the readers of WSJ are predominantly Americans and their law makers

Fair enough.

The casual reader may be suckered in by this article but discerning readers will know this author's history of anti-Pakistan bias and factor that in.
 
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US aid helped Pakistan from 1950s.

US military equipment and training turned PA from a poorly trained aisian army into a well trained, professional army.

high quality US weapons were reason why Pakistan could offer resistance to huge IA in 1965 war.

US also helped Pakistan in agriculture.

You are right on those points.
People need to realize that American help to Pakistan has been enormous over the decades. Of course it helped America. But that's how things work.

But Pakistan is no longer an American favorite. In fact, Pakistan was dumped after 1989 when 'Mission Accomplished' happened.

Well, there may well be a 'Contain China' policy in place and Pakistan is being asked to play a certain role by America. If that's teh case then Pakistan has to decide in clear terms: Either this or that. Bush wasn't joking, after all.

This no longer seems about 'terrorism' anymore. There WILL be fanatics in and around Pakistan. They have been there for a long time. And they can be contained by immigration, surgical strikes, spy work. However, if contain-China is the name of the game then let's start discussing Pakistan's role in that.

With India breathing down Pakistan's neck, Pakistan should either firmly join the India-US alliance and shelve the Kashmir issue. Or Pakistan should join China.

Unfortunately, the middle ground has vanished over past decade.
 
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lol..is this a joke ?? How much more a country can fail..?? Pakistan is a failed nation according to latest, authentic and reliable source/sources and rightly so...

If we are, why are you crying for, is there no limit to indian inferiority complex. :rofl:
 
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US aid helped Pakistan from 1950s.

US military equipment and training turned PA from a poorly trained aisian army into a well trained, professional army.

high quality US weapons were reason why Pakistan could offer resistance to huge IA in 1965 war.

US also helped Pakistan in agriculture.

don't blame US. its incompetent Rawalpindi that has failed in enhancing Pakistan's economic power.

The military equipment doesn't contribute to Pakistan's economy.

The aid given by the US since 1950 a) how much has it been (military v economic), and how much was pocketed by corrupt leaders to get to the situation today? b) to consider also whether economic reform would have been carried out if no economic aid was given.
 
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The military equipment doesn't contribute to Pakistan's economy.

The aid given by the US since 1950 a) how much has it been (military v economic), and how much was pocketed by corrupt leaders to get to the situation today? b) to consider also whether economic reform would have been carried out if no economic aid was given.
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what a load of cr@p.. If the military aid was not given, the toys bought by PA would have been bought using the govt money which now went into the economy. Which means getting free military equipment surely contributed of Pakistani economy
 
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If Pakistan was country made for Indian Muslims, why are there 150 million Muslims in India ?

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Shia's are free to go to their mosques without fear of getting killed in India, gratz India, the same cannot be said for Pakistan.
 
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