Is LCA Programme finally dead?

[Khan vilatey]

I said the same.. IAF will go for 36 more Rafale at least.

HAL Tejas Mk1a (83) and Additional 36 Rafale with give sufficient time for HAL to develop "HAL Tejas Mk2". 4-5 years....

The same reason I don't see any other imported aircraft in Indian colour for IAF

you are wrong, you spread these falsehoods

you people said su-30 was the raptor of the east and it was wise to use Israeli jammers with Russian radars , French avionics and incompetent IAF pilots the result was a significant stain on the flanker brand and a major boost to the JF-17

you people said in 1998 that Pakistan had no nuclear weapons

you people thought it wise to kill a pigeon in Pakistan in a lame attempt to conduct air strikes in Pakistan resulting in the loss of 3-4 su-30s and one mig -21

so take the advice of the ISI and this amazing Pakistani defence forum and buy more foreign jets, pay for them by taking money away from Indian farmers and the common Indian and give it all to the Gujarati business men

k

 

[ziaulislam]

Reality is a foreign concept to you?

India has just had it's lowest growth rate in 50 years. Indian Navy already cutting back on major programmes. No order for 83MK1A this year despite every Bahkt on this forum claiming it was "definately" being signed.
Rafales were now ordered 4 years ago, no follow on order when Indian economy was in a much better position back than so you can pretty much forget any new order for next 2-3 years.

While all this is happening with lots Indian media reports and shouting and "approvals" , "trials" , "Acceptances", " signings" etc Nothing ever moves forward.

Than very quietly PAF puts up 17 PAC Produced Thunders from 2020 in one photo and announces Block III production. All without any talk throughout the year. In one event PAF blew away myth of LCA being any serious contender to JF-17.

In a month or so first JF-17 Block III will role out. MK1A contract will still not be signed. That is not my opinion, this is the actual reality of things.....

They will order rafal
But what to do with aging migs & jaugaurs

Only su30 is new aircraft and upgraded mid life mirages..everything else is past due data

These numbers arent enough for 20 squardons

 

[Khan vilatey]

They will order rafal
But what to do with aging migs & jaugaurs

Only su30 is new aircraft and upgraded mid life mirages..everything else is past due data

These numbers arent enough for 20 squardons

the Indians are incompetent, the only true solution to all their problems is a return to Pakistani Muslim rule. Inshallah this will happen soon.

it’s an open secret that modi is an ISI agent sent to destroy India from within like .we did with the USSR... oops I said it out loud!

K

 

[The Maverick]

20 SQDS my arse

270 su30 mki = 13 sqds
80 Mig29 smt ( 21 on order) = 4 sqds
36 rafale = 2sqds
40 Tejas = 2 sqds
45 mirage 2000-5 = 2 sqds

2 more rafale sqds = 40 planes
4 more tejas sqds = 83 planes

= 29 sqds

assuming no more mmrca

PLEAASE NOTE is martk 1a not ordered ITS means 114 mmrca order in stead ie f16/70 or rafale

 

[IblinI]

20 SQDS my arse

270 su30 mki = 13 sqds
80 Mig29 smt ( 21 on order) = 4 sqds
36 rafale = 2sqds
40 Tejas = 2 sqds
45 mirage 2000-5 = 2 sqds

2 more rafale sqds = 40 planes
4 more tejas sqds = 83 planes

= 29 sqds

assuming no more mmrca

PLEAASE NOTE is martk 1a not ordered ITS means 114 mmrca order in stead ie f16/70 or rafale

as usual, "will happen in the future".

 

[Fighting Falcon 01]

20 SQDS my arse

270 su30 mki = 13 sqds
80 Mig29 smt ( 21 on order) = 4 sqds
36 rafale = 2sqds
40 Tejas = 2 sqds
45 mirage 2000-5 = 2 sqds

2 more rafale sqds = 40 planes
4 more tejas sqds = 83 planes

= 29 sqds

assuming no more mmrca

PLEAASE NOTE is martk 1a not ordered ITS means 114 mmrca order in stead ie f16/70 or rafale

Additional Rafael not ordered yet
Mk1A tejas still not even a prototype has flown both of them are not counted till induction and you still don't have 40 tejas HAL could only manage 4 in a year.....so you have 21 squadrons in total

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Additional Rafael not ordered yet
Mk1A tejas still not even a prototype has flown both of them are not counted till induction and you still don't have 40 tejas HAL could only manage 4 in a year.....so you have 21 squadrons in total

HAJ Tejas Mk1 is just up-gradation of Existing HAL Tejas Mk1.

HAL is more then capable to upgrade any platform - Mig 21 F to Mig 21 bison, Mig 27 ML to H, Jaguar DARIN-III standard with AESA and list can go on.

83 HAL Tejas Mk1a and 40 HAL MK1 will be upgraded to the same level.

Additional - 36 Rafale
HAL Tejas Mk2 - Sufficient time to develop 4-5 Years with few changes. It will be more then 100+.

Su 30 mki - Upgrade with ASEA, AA missile - 150 +

 

[Khan vilatey]

HAJ Tejas Mk1 is just up-gradation of Existing HAL Tejas Mk1.

HAL is more then capable to upgrade any platform - Mig 21 F to Mig 21 bison, Mig 27 ML to H, Jaguar DARIN-III standard with AESA and list can go on.

83 HAL Tejas Mk1a and 40 HAL MK1 will be upgraded to the same level.

Additional - 36 Rafale
HAL Tejas Mk2 - Sufficient time to develop 4-5 Years with few changes. It will be more then 100+.

Su 30 mki - Upgrade with ASEA, AA missile - 150 +

there seems to be a nonsensical tendency with you to warp facts

HAL did jot upgrade shit they assembled upgrade kits, there was no thinking involved, and they did a terrible job at this!

case and point the flying coffins, shady job with the su-30s etc.

the only reason why the mirages are flying is because of direct intervention of dassault, in maintains these aircraft.

k

 

[The Maverick]

[QUOTE="Khan vilatey, post: 12884663,

the only reason why the mirages are flying is because of direct intervention of dassault, in maintains these aircraft.


[/QUOTE]

where did you read this bull shit you made it up lol lol.

as,for tejas, tech wise it's,already above the chinease block 3 thunders that they supply your air Force.

to China thunder is a low end budget fighter to test and improve their aerospace industry

the airframe is weak and fatigues already and engine is Smokey
but the cockpit is superb imo in block 3

 

[White and Green with M/S]

till the. Russians, Chinese or Pakistani military and media is allowed at all Indian bases to verify the number of SU-30s we will have to assume that at a minum 3 SU-30s were shot down.

PAF claims only 1 brother, rest are only speculations/false claims

[QUOTE="Khan vilatey, post: 12884663,

the only reason why the mirages are flying is because of direct intervention of dassault, in maintains these aircraft.

where did you read this bull shit you made it up lol lol.

as,for tejas, tech wise it's,already above the chinease block 3 thunders that they supply your air Force.

to China thunder is a low end budget fighter to test and improve their aerospace industry

the airframe is weak and fatigues already and engine is Smokey
but the cockpit is superb imo in block 3
[/QUOTE]
For your Tejas thanks to the west to design and develop, and how do you know JFT air-frame is week??? and we already tweak the the engine and have minimal smoke, your MIG-29 engine is also smoky, only your Mig-29Khas a smokeless engine

 

[Khan vilatey]

the Indians are incompetent, the only true solution to all their problems is a return to Pakistani Muslim rule. Inshallah this will happen soon.

it’s an open secret that modi is an ISI agent sent to destroy India from within like .we did with the USSR... oops I said it out loud!

K

If the west had not placed a convoluted leader like Modi to bring the bigoted side out India would have achieved greatness.

see great leaders like Nehru, vajpai, Jinnah (QeA) all realized that hatred and bigotry destroy nations while inclusion and tolerance are essential for greatness.
If India had settled the disputes with Pakistan and ensured that Pakistan becomes part of its value stream, Pakistan would have ensured India becomes a superpower. Alas india removed all the sensible folks and picked a fight with Pakistan playing into the west’s game. Now Pakistan will ensure China becomes a superpower!

Your excuses about the a fragile structure and ineffective firepower were laid to rest on feb27 when these eagles shot down 3-4 su-30s and mig-21s. The new block 3s are equal or superior to India’s best aircraft the Rafael. In 5 years we would have block 5 or 6 out imagine it’s capability.

k

 

[White and Green with M/S]

If the west had not placed a convoluted leader like Modi to bring the bigoted side out India would have achieved greatness.

see great leaders like Nehru, vajpai, Jinnah (QeA) all realized that hatred and bigotry destroy nations while inclusion and tolerance are essential for greatness.
If India had settled the disputes with Pakistan and ensured that Pakistan becomes part of its value stream, Pakistan would have ensured India becomes a superpower. Alas india removed all the sensible folks and picked a fight with Pakistan playing into the west’s game. Now Pakistan will ensure China becomes a superpower!

Your excuses about the a fragile structure and ineffective firepower were laid to rest on feb27 when these eagles shot down 3-4 su-30s and mig-21s. The new block 3s are equal or superior to India’s best aircraft the Rafael. In 5 years we would have block 5 or 6 out imagine it’s capability.

k

PAF only claims one MKI and an a MIG-21 brother rest is false claims and speculations brother

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

If the west had not placed a convoluted leader like Modi to bring the bigoted side out India would have achieved greatness.

see great leaders like Nehru, vajpai, Jinnah (QeA) all realized that hatred and bigotry destroy nations while inclusion and tolerance are essential for greatness.
If India had settled the disputes with Pakistan and ensured that Pakistan becomes part of its value stream, Pakistan would have ensured India becomes a superpower. Alas india removed all the sensible folks and picked a fight with Pakistan playing into the west’s game. Now Pakistan will ensure China becomes a superpower!

Your excuses about the a fragile structure and ineffective firepower were laid to rest on feb27 when these eagles shot down 3-4 su-30s and mig-21s. The new block 3s are equal or superior to India’s best aircraft the Rafael. In 5 years we would have block 5 or 6 out imagine it’s capability.

k

You missed that even shoot down Israel fighter planes including US f 35 Because all were together fighting against PAF.

 

[Yasser76]

20 SQDS my arse

270 su30 mki = 13 sqds
80 Mig29 smt ( 21 on order) = 4 sqds
36 rafale = 2sqds
40 Tejas = 2 sqds
45 mirage 2000-5 = 2 sqds

2 more rafale sqds = 40 planes
4 more tejas sqds = 83 planes

= 29 sqds

assuming no more mmrca

PLEAASE NOTE is martk 1a not ordered ITS means 114 mmrca order in stead ie f16/70 or rafale

No additional Rafales signed for our MK1A LCA signed for. Of course this will "happen in the future" as Indians on here are fond of saying, and have been saying for last 3 years....

 

[The Maverick]

No additional Rafales signed for our MK1A LCA signed for. Of course this will "happen in the future" as Indians on here are fond of saying, and have been saying for last 3 years....

let's,just welcome the 3 new Rafale arriving next week 7th January
then greet the remaining 25 Rafale before summer 2022..

tejas mark1a deal.will.be signed for during the aero India air show in February a bi annual.event ..
83 fighters with aesa radar.

India will.receive 21 new mig29smt in late 2021
and additional 12 mki too

the second batch of Rafale will.f4 version of 36 or 40 fighters signed for by 2023..