Is it time India rethinks her policy of supporting cross-border terrorism?

[coffee_cup]

"ulta chore kothwal koh dantay".we are talking about Pakistani proxies and how India should counter them,i.e pay them back in the same coin.

Yay lo karlo baat...

This dude was writing a few minutes ago, i.e. gloating about his country's terror support in the neighborhood:

we dont have to gloat,we have history.
yup same proxies split your country,unlike your country which has been trying for 67 years.

And now all of a sudden blaming us back when domestic militants start attacking India.

How is supporting terrorist organizations such as LTTE is countering alleged "Pakistan's proxies" ?

Dude let the neighbors live in peace, and take your terrorists along with you when you take a dip in the Arabian sea.

 

[MilSpec]

Lets talk about facts:

1) Have you not financed, trained, armed LTTE?
2) Have you not financed, trained, armed Mukti Bahini?

Lets start with that and see if we can bring you back to reality...

We did not arm or train LTTE, they weren't fighting with SLR1's or Insas, neither were these men from RSS or VHP, these were home grown Sri Lankan Tamils, We did not act against them untill they became a threat for us .When LTTE got out of hands and turned into a Terror outfit we demolished them

We constituted Mukti Jodhaas, as a measure against a genocide and huge exodus overburdening an already poor state like India, after liberation of bangladesh, we dis armed them after the war. You don't see Mukti Joddhas bombing train stations and hotels in Islamabad do you? Even when they were in action they did not.

 

[chhota bheem]

Yay lo karlo baat...

This dude was writing a few minutes ago, i.e. gloating about his country's terror support in the neighborhood:


And now all of a sudden blaming us back when domestic militants start attacking India.

How is supporting terrorist organizations such as LTTE is countering alleged "Pakistan's proxies" ?

Dude let the neighbors live in peace, and take your terrorists along with you when you take a dip in the Arabian sea.

Did you read my post,i said Pakistan has been trying for the last 67 years.
So its time for Pakistan to stop trying.
because when we try you know what happens.samjay janabh.

 

[MilSpec]

Well I can say the Same about , BLA, TTP, BRA, UBF,UBA and waht not ? , so you supporting them ?

Can you? You think that pakistani militants are getting their arms and ammunition from India proliferated across the border? Chinese stamped AK's Dera made Ammunition are actually coming from OFB India? Is that your claim? We routinely catch your holy warriors trying to traffic Arms and Ammunition into India, how many Indians have you caught trying to do the same into Pakistan??

 

[doppelganger]

Terrorism has changed the way the world and countries and armies look at war and conflict. At geopolitics. At power projection. At regime change. At destabilization, social, economic, political.

Another game changer has been countries going nuclear. That in itself changes the equilibrium. Brings false parity. Also opens new routes of engagement.

The topic title itself is a misnomer.

There is no cross border terrorism from India to Pakistan, because the Indian way of life, the Hindu way of life, simply does not foment suicidal tendencies and ideation. There is a strong strain of self preservation that runs through every Hindu.

If you see a suicide bomber, know that the Hindu is dead in him.

But such are in high abundance in Pakistan. For export as well as domestic "consumption." So yes, there is cross border terrorism fedayeen style Pakistan to India.

In the case of India on Pakistan, those it would use and leverage, are already across the border on the other side.

 

[coffee_cup]

We did not arm or train LTTE, they weren't fighting with SLR1's or Insas, neither were these men from RSS or VHP, these were home grown Sri Lankan Tamils, We did not act against them untill they became a threat for us .When LTTE got out of hands and turned into a Terror outfit we demolished them

We constituted Mukti Jodhaas, as a measure against a genocide and huge exodus overburdening an already poor state like India, after liberation of bangladesh, we dis armed them after the war. You don't see Mukti Joddhas bombing train stations and hotels in Islamabad do you? Even when they were in action they did not.

Here comes the Indian logic...

First finance, arm, train terrorists of other countries for decades and once they have killed enough innocent civilians in their tens of thousands, go around the world and announce with a flat face, "hey, look we have disarmed those terrorists, we have been training for decades".

This is not how the world works, dear Indian.

1) You must officially apologize to victims
2) You must hang and severely punish all those Indian govt. officials who were involved in creating these terrorist organizations
3) You must compensate all those families who bread-earners were killed by your terrorist proxies.

Do these steps and only then you can have a moral reason to ask any other country in the world to punish someone.

Other countries also have more than enough reasons to "constitute Sikh-Jodhaas, Kashmiri-Jodhas, Naxal-Jodhas, Maoist-Jodhas, Dalit-Jodhas, Christian-Jodhas, Muslim-Jodhas as a measure against a genocide ... "

As said earlier, Indian policy of using terrorism as a strategic tool is very flawed and this policy MUST be revised!

There is no cross border terrorism from India to Pakistan, because the Indian way of life, the Hindu way of life, simply does not foment suicidal tendencies and ideation. There is a strong strain of self preservation that runs through every Hindu.

Oh man these Indians and their parallel universe.....

 

[MilSpec]

Here comes the Indian logic...

First finance, arm, train terrorists of other countries for decades and once they have killed enough innocent civilians in their tens of thousands, go around the world and announce with a flat face, "hey, look we have disarmed those terrorists, we have been training for decades".

This is not how the world works, dear Indian.

1) You must officially apologize to victims
2) You must hang and severely punish all those Indian govt. officials who were involved in creating these terrorist organizations
3) You must compensate all those families who bread-earners were killed by your terrorist proxies.

Do these steps and only then you can have a moral reason to ask any other country in the world to punish someone.

Other countries also have more than enough reasons to "constitute Sikh-Jodhaas, Kashmiri-Jodhas, Naxal-Jodhas, Maoist-Jodhas, Dalit-Jodhas, Christian-Jodhas, Muslim-Jodhas as a measure against a genocide ... "

As said earlier, Indian policy of using terrorism as a strategic tool is very flawed and this policy MUST be revised!

Nopes.

 

[F.O.X]

Can you? You think that pakistani militants are getting their arms and ammunition from India proliferated across the border? Chinese stamped AK's Dera made Ammunition are actually coming from OFB India? Is that your claim? We routinely catch your holy warriors trying to traffic Arms and Ammunition into India, how many Indians have you caught trying to do the same into Pakistan??

There you go again, Blaming without Evidence, if you catch our Holy warriors why not Parade them in front of the world ? if you have proof why not show it to everyone & humiliate us ? Just by saying you have proof does not make it so, You actually have to show it .

Your previous argument was that how the separatist are getting Money Weapons Logistics etc. Every thing can be bought for money, so you blamed us without proof & I Blamed you without proof, but you want me to accept that you are right while at the same time you refuse to accept my argument . See the irony ?

 

[MilSpec]

There you go again, Blaming without Evidence, if you catch our Holy warriors why not Parade them in front of the world ? if you have proof why not show it to everyone & humiliate us ? Just by saying you have proof does not make it so, You actually have to show it .



Your previous argument was that how the separatist are getting Money Weapons Logistics etc. Every thing can be bought for money, so you blamed us without proof & I Blamed you without proof, but you want me to accept that you are right while at the same time you refuse to accept my argument . See the irony ?

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[F.O.X]

Parade... We do in bodybags... Look up news

Well seeing as you are unable to continue the debate & have resorted to one liners, I Rest my Case.

 

[MilSpec]

Well seeing as you are unable to continue the debate & have resorted to one liners, I Rest my Case.

I was on my cell phone...
there is no blame without evidence. Ample amounts of pakistani involvement have been provided to the pakistani high commision, pakistani government and the world about pakistan's involvement. Right from the Weapons cache's discovered, to Pakistani civilians found fighting in Kashmir. Also we all remember what the Mujhahideens of Kargil turned out to be. On multiple occasions your own leaders such as Benazir Bhutto, Nawaz Shariff and even Musharraf have admitted to logistical and financial support to Militancy in Kashmir, also your own ex-ISI chiefs and diplomats have confessed to state sponsored terror emanating from Pakistani deep state.

Drawing parallels between the two are unequivocally irresponsible. We find very often PoF marked grenades. Sattelite imagery of terror camps in Pakistan held kashmir have been provided on multiple occasions. Multiple captured terrorists have provided exact details of where they were trained and who their handlers were. Apart from this the terrorists released from IC814 hijacking prosper in Pakistan with impunity. International terrorists like financier of 9/11 like KSM, to Daniel Pearl/IC 814/1994 Kidnapping fame ahmed omar saeed sheikh to the scums like OBL all found, guess where? Drawing parallels between Pakistan's State Sponsored Terror campaign and India is just funny. You can keep invoking Mukti Jodha's legacy but at he end of the day not one country in the world including your allies declared them terror organisation. Not your prime ally, your brotherly nation or your ummah group, have you ever questioned why?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

We are just warming up.

Warm-up and full throttle forward press are both over and done with, in case you haven't been paying attention to the dismantling of the TTP and various other groups that are/were part of this 'warm up' in the last 5 years.

Right from the Weapons cache's discovered, to Pakistani civilians found fighting in Kashmir.

Thousands of citizens from Western nations managed to somehow make their way to FATA, Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Nigeria etc. to join and fight with terrorist groups like Boko Haram and ISIS. These terrorist groups have been found to be using weapons from the US, Russia, Western Europe, China etc. - none of this makes the countries that are a source of weapons and manpower complicit in the terrorism.

These are ideologically motivated people, who leave behind families friends and broken and devastated homes when they choose to embark upon such endeavors. The State is not responsible for their actions.

 

[MilSpec]

Thousands of citizens from Western nations managed to somehow make their way to FATA,

Now FATA is in Pakistan, why would the 7th largest standing military on the face of this planet let it's territory be used for such activities?

 

[Soulspeek]

Which world are you living in bro? There are only 29 states in India and you are saying that insurgencies are going on in 20 states!!

Care to give us a state-wise breakup? If not, then keep your knowledge to yourself.

This is a serious question to Indians.

Supporting terrorist organizations such as LTTE, Mukti Bahini, BLA or TTP might have given her tactical advantage for time being, but her own fault lines such as having insurgencies in more than 20 states means, this can seriously backfire.

 

[MilSpec]

. The State is not responsible for their actions.

Then the state should stop providing cover fire to these gems too....