Is ISIS a threat to Saudi Arabia?

[AbidM]

There is no proof of that. Empty talk basically. Yet still funny and if it is correct I must say that we have the strongest proxies in the world.

KSA remains world’s leading UN aid donor | Arab News — Saudi Arabia News, Middle East News, Opinion, Economy and more.

Yes, I have also heard that KSA is the main UN donor in the world and also funds millions of poor Bangladeshis and helps them escape the poverty line that most of them live under and also helps them become literate.

1 million Bangladeshis also work in KSA and are sending very valuable remittances that whole villages need to survive. Saudi Arabians also help spread Islam so some of you guys can leave Paganism .

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/bus...-s-second-top-remittance-sending-country.html

Now say "thank you" loud and clear.

Whilst Bangladesh remains the largest army supplier of UN Peace keeping ehy? Why can't saudis go and fight, oh right, no one trust them.

WE have Bangladeshis who come back from KSA to Bangladesh turned into monsters, thank you, maybe that's a bit over reaction but many definitely come back with a much more conservative ideology and that sad for our country, one that was founded on democracy and secularism, unlike SA which is clearly a dictatorship, very very authoratative and sitll a little bit backwards, the only reason you guys get respect is, one you guys control the holy cities of islam, so therefore no muslims nations like to call you out on your bullsh*t and 2 you've got oil and that's about, that's why people care. I know loads of muslims who hate muslim ideologys, wahabism just takes it all to the next level. There alot of people who hate you kings and queens, they do every bad thing in the book, the drink, smoke and party, that's the royal family for you.

 

[niaz]

Once Khilafat has been established and there is an Amir –ul-Momineen (Commander of the faithful); there is no place for a sovereign ‘Malik’ or King. However if the Khalifa so desires, he can appoint a deputy to rule in his stead as ‘Sultan’.

Would the Saudi King like to work as a deputy to Abu Bakr al Baghdadi?

 

[al-Hasani]

@AbidM

Ok, Bangladeshi. Your country is indeed a superpower.

I suggest that you stop sending your people to KSA and the Arab world then. Go to India, Burma or Sri Lanka instead. Many of your people are engaged in crime in KSA and elsewhere.

 

[AbidM]

@AbidM

Ok, Bangladeshi. Your country is indeed a superpower.

I suggest that you stop sending your people to KSA and the Arab world then. Go to India, Burma or Sri Lanka instead. Many of your people are engaged in crime in KSA and elsewhere.

Where did you get the assumption that I said Bangladesh was a super power, are you dizzy?

I don't control Bangladesh nor any bangladeshis, so I can't dictate where my people go, however I do know that humans follow any place where they are promised opportunity, there is much more opportunity in arab countries due oil boom, which leads onto construction and thus you have Bangladeshis there, they will come for that opportunity.

 

[Rakan.SA]

Where did you get the assumption that I said Bangladesh was a super power, are you dizzy?

I don't control Bangladesh nor any bangladeshis, so I can't dictate where my people go, however I do know that humans follow any place where they are promised opportunity, there is much more opportunity in arab countries due oil boom, which leads onto construction and thus you have Bangladeshis there, they will come for that opportunity.

ok good i hope they are happy.. and we are happy. now what's bugging you ?

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

lol at U.S budget surplus I mean deficient

Hey, dont make fun of the deficit. Its the thing that's allowing me to keep a job!

And you judging by your profile pic?

 

[Superboy]

Why would be a caliph be okay but a king would not be okay?

 

[al-Hasani]

Why would be a caliph be okay but a king would not be okay?

Actually people don't know much here on PDF when it comes to Islamic history. During practically all Caliphates the Caliph appointed various governors, emirs etc. in the various lands of the Caliphate as nobody can sit in some palace in 1 city and control a powerful and vast empire. There was always many rulers in the Caliphate who controlled their various lands the only condition was that they pledged allegiance to the Caliph who was the supreme ruler.

There won't be any Caliphate in the mould of what ISIS is attempting to create anyway so it's a pointless discussion much like your very own thread.

 

[Falcon29]

Actually people don't know much here on PDF when it comes to Islamic history. During practically all Caliphates the Caliph appointed various governors, emirs etc. in the various lands of the Caliphate as nobody can sit in some palace in 1 city and control a powerful and vast empire.

There won't be any Caliphate in the mould of what ISIS is attempting to create anyway so it's a pointless discussion much like your very own thread.

Our Caliph used to sleep on a sheet and roam the city to find out if anybody is need.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Saudi Arabia: Gunmen kill five in eastern Shia region

4 November 2014 Last updated at 11:34 GMT
Video purportedly filmed after the attack showed bullet casings and bloodstains
Masked gunmen have killed five people in a key Shia Muslim area of eastern Saudi Arabia.

Nine people were wounded in the attack in Dalwah town, Ahsa district, one of the centres for Shia Muslims in the majority Sunni country.

Six people have been arrested in connection with the shooting, Saudi state media reports.

Shia Muslims are currently marking Ashura, which commemorates the death of a grandson of the Prophet Muhammad.

The gunmen reportedly opened fire on the victims with pistols and machine guns as they left a building where ceremonies were taking place.

Shia Muslims make up less than 15% of Saudi Arabia's 20 million population.

They have long complained of marginalisation by the Sunni royal family, with the Eastern Province, where most of the country's Shia live, seeing a spate of protests in the wake of the Arab Spring.

The Saudi government denies allegations of discrimination and blames Iran for stirring up discontent.

BBC News - Saudi Arabia: Gunmen kill five in eastern Shia region

 

[al-Hasani]

Our Caliph used to sleep on a sheet and roam the city to find out if anybody is need.

That was during the Rashidun Caliphate. Or the Rightly Guided Caliphate as it is also known for a reason. Those that followed afterwards did what I explained.

Rashidun Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rashidun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So at one hand those hypocrites are crying about conservative Islam that wants to emulate the Rashidun Caliphate and at the other hand they want to remove modern-day Muslim leaders.

 

[atatwolf]

Al Baghdadi, funded and trained by US. Now the group they trained and funded is out of control and is smashing US interests.

 

[Falcon29]

That was during the Rashidun Caliphate. Or the Rightly Guided Caliphate as it is also known for a reason. Those that followed afterwards did what I explained.

Rashidun Caliphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rashidun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So at one hand those hypocrites are crying about conservative Islam that wants to emulate the Rashidun Caliphate and at the other hand they want to remove modern-day Muslim leaders.

Which people are you referring to?

 

[al-Hasani]

Which people are you referring to?

If they want to remove modern-day Sultans (there is only one Sultanate left and that is Oman), Kings, Emirs etc. they should also remove their presidents, prime ministers, dictators etc. At least if they use Islam as a pretext.

I have much more respect for those Muslims that are consistent and in this case would say that all of those should leave and that a real Caliphate should be established.

Those in between are as bad as those that they criticize.

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Al Baghdadi, funded and trained by US. Now the group they trained and funded is out of control and is smashing US interests.

That's not Al-Baghdadi. Just some random guy.

 

[Falcon29]

If they want to remove modern-day Sultans (there is only one Sultanate left and that is Oman), Kings, Emirs etc. they should also remove their presidents, prime ministers, dictators etc. At least if they use Islam as a pretext.

I have much more respect for those Muslims that are consistent and in this case would say that all of those should leave and that a real Caliphate should be established.

Those in between are as bad as those that they criticize.

It's not possible for people to express their real views considering modern political/social state of Arab world. On both sides, MB sympathizers and Gulf cleric sympathizers express double standard at some point. Although I give credit to the MB that usually their sympathizers are legally going up against secular alternative. In the Gulf the monarchies or whatever you wish to call them appoint clerics to have religious overtone to combat MB narrative. And they are more hypocritical, sorry to say. But, the larger point is that it is not possible to create a real Caliphate without overthrowing whole world system.

And nobody has a plan for that, I doubt it can coexist with Capitalism. So it requires both sides to come to a similar conclusion. And both sides need to accept they have their own hypocrisy. MB sympathizers are more willing to take the next necessary step as of now. This is undeniable.

What's clear is it can't come through an organization conquering it's way to a Caliphate with no endgame solution. However, time is not on our side. The more we ignore the needs of the society the more prevalent such ideas become. And with recent events in Arab world where Arab states seemed to have backed off of Syria and Iraq and declared new coalition which claims to target militants then we are heading to a bad divide in the region if their is no initiative in place for those who are suffering.

And that requires Mecca to be center of the Middle East again. Right now it is Jerusalem(People look to Israel to find answers). And one of recollections of Prophet mention that it will return to be Mecca again.