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Is ISIS a threat to Saudi Arabia?

The Saudi state was not formed during WW1, and the only active Arabian army was that of the Hasmite kingdom, which actively fought against the Saudi state at the time. You are apparently extremely ignorant and misguided. You need some history lessons.

Actually it was the opposite way around. Ibn Saud attacked the Kingdom of Hijaz in order to expand. It was the Sultanate of Najd that attacked the Kingdom of Hijaz in 1926 and created the Kingdom of Najd and Hijaz in 1926. 6 years later KSA was founded. Najd was always independent in that sense and even during the Rashidun, Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates it had more or less full autonomy often. Similarly during the Fatimids.

Yes, but we had the best parts. Who wants deserts with rats and snakes.


I think with Saudi Arabia it is different. ISIS might do or don't do something. The Saudi monarchy is very fragile at the moment. I have my questions regarding it can transform into a democracy and I 'm saying that very lightly. Eventually a regime change will happen since the people will demand that. The question is what will the new regime look like? ISIS might want to play a role there but if it can or cannot. Regime change will happen.

Only 25% of that is desert. Rest mountain, steppe, farmland and coastline.

What are you basing that on? Nothing as you know very little about the Arab world as we have witnessed on PDF before. Let alone KSA. KSA has never been stronger than it is today. The monarchy is as popular as ever too. That process is already under way though.

Yes, regime change might happen so what? KSA won't disappear for that reason like it never has. Whatever name it has had. Nothing to do with ISIS though.

Only idiots believe that ISIS will conquer a regional power like KSA when they can't even fully conquer failed states like Syria and Iraq and are yet to make 1 single attack on KSA.:rofl:

Maybe the Kurds will conquer half of Turkey and ISIS the other, ah?:rofl: If pigs could fly. The holy, ancient and beautiful lands of KSA are safe and will remain as such.
 
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IS is losing ground in Iraq/Syria recently.
Just like Hamas is gaining on occupied land..

Berbers aren't arabs.. Educate yourself.
Hev didn't say Berbers are arabs, he said pan Arabs, you're the one who needs to brush up, that is if you understand what panarabism means..
 
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The Saudi state was not formed during WW1, and the only active Arabian army was that of the Hasmite kingdom, which actively fought against the Saudi state at the time. You are apparently extremely ignorant and misguided. You need some history lessons.

Arabia had been under Ottoman rule since the sixteenth century. The seeds of the modern Saudi state in central Arabia are sown in 1744. The local ruler, Muhammad ibn Sacud (1689–1765), joins forces with Islamic reformer and purist Muhammad ibn cAbd al-Wahhab (1703–1792) to create a new political entity. Throughout the nineteenth century, the fortunes of the Sacud family rise and fall several times as the Saudi rulers contend with Egypt, the Ottoman empire, and other Arabian families for control over the peninsula. cAbdul cAziz al-Sacud (ca. 1880–1953) founds the modern Saudi state; in 1926, he becomes king of the Hejaz and Najd and in 1932 these regions are unified as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Meanwhile, Britain takes incremental control over many coastal areas in order to guarantee the safety of its boats carrying goods to India.

The Arabian Peninsula in the nineteenth century, however, remains an isolated and peripheral domain of the Ottoman empire—one virtually untouched by the cultural and artistic developments at Istanbul. Ottoman influence is seen only in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, with the Ottoman restoration and enlargement of the Mosque of the Prophet and Haram Mosque. In the Arabian Peninsula and the Gulf countries, Western aesthetics and modern art training do not appear until the second half of the twentieth century.


During the nineteenth century, Iraq, Palestine (renamed the state of Israel in 1948), Jordan, Syria, and Cyprus are all part of the Ottoman empire. European powers, primarily the British and French, move into the region as the Ottoman grip loosens. As a result, Arab culture yields increasingly to Western art forms and styles. Lebanon is among the first Arab countries to adopt Western art, which infiltrates the country through European missionaries, who open convents and schools and introduce lithography and printing. The missionaries in Lebanon are responsible for establishing the basis for a cultural, social, and political life centered on Christianity, which leads to a flowering of art and culture and the evolution of the Gothic school of religious painting. In the 1860s, artists such as Nicmatullah Allah al-Macadi and Daoudal-Corm (1852–1930) are dispatched to Europe to study. The first Arab reaction against the Ottoman government is witnessed in this region at the end of the nineteenth century. It is initiated as a literary movement by the American Presbyterian Mission, which produces new school textbooks in Arabic rather than Turkish.

In Syria, the art of wall painting, modeled on those found in Anatolia, continues well into the nineteenth century, and the art of Christian church icons, painting on glass and on textiles flourishes. Syria experiences the first European influences through Ottoman art. European-inspired Ottoman decorative styles in wall painting begin to appear in the houses of Aleppo and Damascus. Meanwhile, local artists look to Western art and attempt to fuse it with native forms. By the late nineteenth century, Syrian notables and statesmen commission Western-style portraits and landscapes for display in their private residences.

Jordan, on the other hand, assimilates Ottoman artistic influence only in architecture. Hardly any other traces of Western art exist in the country in the nineteenth century. The beginnings of a modern art movement are not seen in Jordan until the 1920s and '30s. In Iraq, modern Western art develops only at the end of the nineteenth century, after the reforms of the Ottoman wali (governor) Midhat Pasha (r. 1869–72). These include the creation of new cities, construction of new buildings, the opening of modern schools, printing presses, newspapers, hospitals, and the railway. The traditional arts of mural painting and painting on glass are practiced until the end of the nineteenth century. Oil painting is introduced into Iraq at the turn of the twentieth century by a group of officers who had received training at the military schools in Istanbul. They are responsible for launching a modern art movement in Iraq and paint much in the same manner as the Turkish soldier painters, paying close attention to naturalism, use of light and shade, and modeling. They also encourage students to paint from nature instead of copying from photographs.

Palestinian art remains impervious to the influences of Western art until 1948. During the nineteenth century, the traditional arts of embroidery, pottery, weaving, calligraphy, icon painting, wood engraving, stone carving, and mosaic represent the chief arts of Palestine. Meanwhile, throughout the region, the traditional arts persist alongside Western-inspired art during much of the nineteenth century
 
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Stateless Berbarian at it again. You can throw your nonsense "source" (no link either) out of the window together with your trolling. It hurts reading that bunch of nonsense.

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You can educate yourself by looking at this thread from post number 69 until the end.

Has Iran abandoned its ally Syria... | Page 5

@Horus can you ensure that this thread sticks to the topic and control this renegade?
 
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Riyadh beefed up security along the northern regions where the alleged suicide attack took place this morning.


I'm on mobile so I can't post those pictures of the Saudi tanks and other military vehicles so can anyone here do it?

Also, the attack allegedly killed two Saudi border guards on the northern borders. May they rest in peace.





RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Saudi Arabia says two armed men, including one with a suicide vest, attacked a patrol of border guards near the kingdom's frontier with Iraq, killing two guards and wounding a third.

The Interior Ministry says the attack occurred at dawn Monday near Arar, the provincial capital of the Northern Borders Province, along the border with Iraq.

It describes the attackers as "terrorists" and says they opened fire on the patrol. The guards returned fire, killing one of the attackers. The other detonated his explosives and blew himself up.

No group immediately claimed responsibility for the attack.

Saudi Arabia has joined the U.S.-led alliance against Islamic State militants and is participating — along with Jordan, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates — in airstrikes in Syria, with logistical support from Qatar.
 
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KSA can easily take out ISIS , common guys , they got F-15,s and Typoons for some reason , after all king cant fly those birds :D
 
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wahhabi,salafist you name it.....has no place in the present world.

they say the first three generations of Muslims were the bestand want emulate them and what era was that??? 600 AD to what 750/800 AD???

1200 years of progress down the drain. if they get their way humanity will be looking at another dark age.
Emulate the Salaf's character, their manner, their behavior towards other people. Humanity has made no progress in this field and never will better those people. We don't want to emulate their technology or science. I guess what they say about amerikans being stupid is true.
 
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KSA can easily take out ISIS , common guys , they got F-15,s and Typoons for some reason , after all king cant fly those birds :D
60+ nations Coalition under US + ISF/Pesh/IRGC/militias is really doing a good job. 500+ airstrikes under the "superior" Western jets since October is showing a good result, right?
 
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60+ nations Coalition under US + ISF/Pesh/IRGC/militias is really doing a good job. 500+ airstrikes under the "superior" Western jets since October is showing a good result, right?

the Same countries once Armed ISIS , they are not honest to eliminate their asset in the region :p:
 
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Of coursr not. After all, ISIS members are mostly Saudis.
Saudis most likely to join ISIS, 10% of group's fighters are women
44% of ISIS casualties are from Saudi Arabia.


By that logic it means that TTP isnt a threat to Pakistan because most of its members are Pakkstanis, and Jundallah are not a threat to Iran because most of its members are Iranians.

But then again this is Iranian logic here, and no most of ISIS isn't Saudi, it's syrian and Iraqi. So they are not a threat to Iraq and Syria according to your wonderful logic.
 
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By that logic it means that TTP isnt a threat to Pakistan because most of its members are Pakkstanis, and Jundallah are not a threat to Iran because most of its members are Iranians.

But then again this is Iranian logic here, and no most of ISIS isn't Saudi, it's syrian and Iraqi. So they are not a threat to Iraq and Syria according to your wonderful logic.
Haha, I was partly joking. Yes most of ISIS is Saudi.
ISIS has 20,000 to 31,500 fighters at most (CIA data; August 2014), of which 15000 are foreign fighters and 7000 are Saudis (more than any other fireign country) and 8000 are from various other countries. Here is some basic calculations:
(20000 + 31500) / 2 = 25750 ≈ 26000 ISIS fighters
26000 - 15000 = 11000 local Iraqi/Syrian ISIS fighters
11000 / 2 = 5500 Iraqi, or Syrian
7000 > 5500
Therefore, based on independent statistics, most of ISIS fighters are Saudis (no surprise for me though)
 
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Haha, I was partly joking. Yes most of ISIS is Saudi.
ISIS has 20,000 to 31,500 fighters at most (CIA data; August 2014), of which 15000 are foreign fighters and 7000 are Saudis (more than any other fireign country) and 8000 are from various other countries. Here is some basic calculations:
(20000 + 31500) / 2 = 25750 ≈ 26000 ISIS fighters
26000 - 15000 = 11000 local Iraqi/Syrian ISIS fighters
11000 / 2 = 5500 Iraqi, or Syrian
7000 > 5500
Therefore, based on independent statistics, most of ISIS fighters are Saudis (no surprise for me though)


And from which orifice did you pull these numbers from?
 
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