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[N_Al40]

You are naive to think that it is a slam dunk the arms embargo will get lifted.

China and Russia were surprised Iran agreed to delay lifting of embargo, because by not getting it immediately it allows the West to later refuse to lift it using a whole set of excuses.



If what you say is true, then it will take Iran 10 years just to have enough technology threshold to build a large fighter jet, that doesn't include testing, prototype flight trials, etc. which could add another 10-15 years onto the development time depending on how serious priority it is given.

So you are talking about a large fighter that will be using old technology by the time it is even reaches service which could be 2+ decades away!

As a UNSC Resolution, the US can't do a damn thing because the resolution has already been adopted. The arms embargo was included in the resolution passed in 2015, and the US voted for it; it cannot simply veto or annul a single CLAUSE of that resolution, it is diplomatically impossible, or any for that matter. UNSC Resolution 2231 included a whole host of other temporary sanctions that have been suspended and that are soon to be permanently annulled.

There seems to be a misunderstanding of how this resolution works: It's been voted upon and adopted by the UNSC; the resolution hasn't yet fully achieved what it has been set out to do because there are time restrictions in place; among them is the arms embargo (2020), ballistic missile sanctions removal (2023) [This specific one can happen earlier though, provided the IAEA: reaches the “Broader Conclusion” that “all nuclear material in Iran remains in peaceful activities”], and centrifuges sanctions removal (2025), where Iran is no longer obligated to use only 5060 IR-1 centrifuges. Among many other time-related sanctions removals.

The veto power can only be used if a resolution has not yet passed.

Why do you think the US is kicking up a fuss about the 'Sunset Clause' in 2025? Because as I said earlier, they can't do a damn thing, because the resolutions has already passed. If they could veto that clause (or any for that matter), which is the impression your under, why try so desperately to "Renegotiate", "Scrap", or "Make the 2025 sunset clause permanent". Because my brother, the US knows it can't do nothing to stop Iran using IR-8 centrifuges come October 2025 as the deal stands. A prospect that puts Iran a mere weeks away from Nuclear Threshold Capability, an idea that frightens Saudi Arabia and Israel.

 

[TheImmortal]

Your prototypes will be flying with existing engines but Iran will need 10 years of R&D to take a fairly good engine into production The life span & maintenance hours required may not be as good as Russian & American engines but that will naturally improve in time!


So in about 10-12 years time & ~$3Billion spent you can start serial production of a fighter about the size of an F-14, with an eternal weapons bay & reduced RCS using known methods and it will take another 10 years of developing weapons and upgrading the weapons systems & sensors to match current F-35's (NOT future F-35)

So yes Iran is at least 2 decades behind when it comes to sensors, weapons and weapons systems! In 20 years US F-35's & 6th Gen fighters may be equipped with directed energy weapons or at least directed energy countermeasures plus 6th gen fighters may be escorted by semi autonomous UCAV's piloted by the rear pilots of 6th Gen fighters or upgraded twin seat F-35's and by then US will likely be testing sub orbital prototypes!

All that rambling and yet you end up agreeing with me.

I wasn't saying that it would take 10 years for just prototype testing I was saying it would take 10 years to get to production mode of an airframe. This was based on your estimate or should I say "guess" that it would take iran 10 years to be able to build up enough production for the right alloys and titanium.

So I said that you would need another potentially 10 years for all that technology going into the fighter to develop and mature not to mention build up a decent fighter force.

 

[raptor22]

Iranian F14 Tomcat locked on an unknown aircraft in Persian Gulf

 

[TheImmortal]

As a UNSC Resolution, the US can't do a damn thing because the resolution has already been adopted. The arms embargo was included in the resolution passed in 2015, and the US voted for it; it cannot simply veto or annul a single CLAUSE of that resolution, it is diplomatically impossible, or any for that matter. UNSC Resolution 2231 included a whole host of other temporary sanctions that have been suspended and that are soon to be permanently annulled.

There seems to be a misunderstanding of how this resolution works: It's been voted upon and adopted by the UNSC; the resolution hasn't yet fully achieved what it has been set out to do because there are time restrictions in place; among them is the arms embargo (2020), ballistic missile sanctions removal (2023) [This specific one can happen earlier though, provided the IAEA: reaches the “Broader Conclusion” that “all nuclear material in Iran remains in peaceful activities”], and centrifuges sanctions removal (2025), where Iran is no longer obligated to use only 5060 IR-1 centrifuges. Among many other time-related sanctions removals.

The veto power can only be used if a resolution has not yet passed.

Why do you think the US is kicking up a fuss about the 'Sunset Clause' in 2025? Because as I said earlier, they can't do a damn thing, because the resolutions has already passed. If they could veto that clause (or any for that matter), which is the impression your under, why try so desperately to "Renegotiate", "Scrap", or "Make the 2025 sunset clause permanent". Because my brother, the US knows it can't do nothing to stop Iran using IR-8 centrifuges come October 2025 as the deal stands. A prospect that puts Iran a mere weeks away from Nuclear Threshold Capability, an idea that frightens Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Again you are naive if you think the West (EU) is going to allow Iran to re-arm and become even more influential in the Middle East.

Mind I remind you that Russia didn't sell a DEFENSIVE weapon system (s-300) to Iran for many years even though it was allowed, because they simply wanted to please the US and EU.

 

[Dinky]

Again you are naive if you think the West (EU) is going to allow Iran to re-arm and become even more influential in the Middle East.

Mind I remind you that Russia didn't sell a DEFENSIVE weapon system (s-300) to Iran for many years even though it was allowed, because they simply wanted to please the US and EU.

I guess Russia didnt please the US enough since they got sanctioned anyways lol

 

[VEVAK]

All that rambling and yet you end up agreeing with me.

I wasn't saying that it would take 10 years for just prototype testing I was saying it would take 10 years to get to production mode of an airframe. This was based on your estimate or should I say "guess" that it would take iran 10 years to be able to build up enough production for the right alloys and titanium.

So I said that you would need another potentially 10 years for all that technology going into the fighter to develop and mature not to mention build up a decent fighter force.

Yes Iran would need 10 years and 10 years is a standard timeline in talking a large twin engine supersonic Airframe from design to serial production in a adequately funded program!
I believe it would be reckless of Iran NOT to fund such a program for the next decade fact is the only way the U.S. wouldn't attempt to stop a Co production fighter deal with Russia is if Iran develops an Airframe that has the potential of being a greater threat than known Su-30's in the future

I just don't see the U.S. allowing a Russian Co-production deal to happen unless Iran has it's own large twin-engine fighter program

For Iran to match the U.S. in manned aircraft (excluding Suborbital capability) Iran would need to spend at least $300 Billion over the next 30 years for R&D and production in producing engines, fighters, supersonic bombers, radars, optics, lasers, weapons,... So unless a group of countries join Iran for various joint projects it's not likely!

But Iran doesn't need to match US capability over it's own territory! Just to give you an example over it's own territory using current tech
by spending only ~$500 Million USD a year in a span of 20 years Iran can station 15,000 ground based sensors, radars & optics some equipped with Iranian built short range SAM & AAA each unit costing no more than an average of $700,000 USD to build each capable of relaying info to every Iranian fighter for low altitude engagements & increasing your fighters situational awareness & making up the difference in sensor capability compared to US fighters

Add to that a mass UAV program to make up for US superiority in force multipliers

But they'll still need a fighter program that will cost ~$40 Billion in the next 15-20 years if they are forced to go at it alone to mass the same number of fighters if they were to pay $20 Billion to the Russians but after the 1st 15 years that's when your fighter program will start to pay off in time

But regardless whether Iran produces it's' own fighters or co-produces with the Russians they still need to build many of the same facilities and knowing the state of your Air Force why wouldn't you invest in a domestic fighter as a backup program

 

[raptor22]

میراژ اف وان بی کیو تازه اورهال شده در یاشی

 

[raptor22]

 

[N_Al40]

Russian SU-57 Stealth Fighter with Syrian and Iranian flags on it.

Want to know if you guys think that this is significant?

 

[AmirPatriot]

Russian SU-57 Stealth Fighter with Syrian and Iranian flags on it.

Want to know if you guys think that this is significant?

Just photoshop from some enthusiasts.

 

[VEVAK]

@VEVAK

Your distorted view and understanding shows itself again with the tourism argument.

You have a static, non-felxible, non-open, almost reactionary view on things, a kind of (western) textbook approach.

Its funny that your tourism case is so similar to that on airpower and the jet engine... Same as we can't compete in those areas, we also can't compete with Turkish alcohol flatrate offers at their (closer) Mediterranean beaches and their developed tourism infrastructure. They have all the KPIs on their side, its a lost cause.
Its actually sad, as many people in Iran, who have not seen the outside world, think Iran can become big via tourism...
At least try to take Japan or South Korea as a example who produce products with high added values and don't try to host drunk party foreigners with sun at beaches...
This is not meant to condemn Turkish tourism model or even alcoholic westen tourism style, it works for them.

YOU PEOPLE are DELUSIONAL!
Japan get over 20 Million Tourists a year! South Korea with a population of only 50 million gets 11 million tourists a year!!! And people go there to spend money! They don't travel there on buses to just visit religious sites spend as little as they can and get out! Or just to cross the boarder to meet family members & stay at there homes and spend as little as they can and get out!
On top of that South Korea is a leading country in Smart Phones, TV, Home appliances, Car industry

Any country the size of Iran whether developed technologically or NOT will NOT have a healthy economy unless it has 15-20 million tourists a year coming in to spend money!!!

YOU CAN CRY all the nonsense you want!!! That is a FACT! and to sacrifice Iran's economy for absurd outdated thing is absurd!!!!!!!!!

Hell even in Iran's foreigner policy one of the main reason the Syrian people don't connect with us is because of the same thing! The pro Assad's are pro Russian & the Anti Assad are pro Turkey!
And that's why the Saudi's failed in Syria!!!

You need to get out of your little bubble!

FYI I DO NOT drink Alcoholic beverages but I know for a fact that any Iranian can have it delivered to their house with a simple phone call but it's something tourists can't get their hands on & the Iranian government can't make money off of

Will we ever though be able to challenge U.S Airpower in case of war, even with large quantities of Su-30's or Su-35 or Iranian equivalent. I'm not saying we shouldn't even have a program or spend any money on airforce. Airforce is really key element in modern warfare. But in terms of going up against say, 2 b-1 lancers, and 4 F-22's. These 6 fighters with long range firepower alone will destroy dozens of aircraft.

NO! You can't challenged them outside Iranian Airspace at all! Your Air Force needs to be backed by your Air Defense just as much as your Air Defense needs to be backed by your Air Force!

Just photoshop from some enthusiasts.

But I believe they were covertly tested inside Iran to see how they do in high heat high dust areas!

But it's doubtful that the U.S. would even allow Iran to get co-production rights of the Su-30 let alone anything more advanced!
And the Su-PAK needs many years of work and upgrades to reach what the Russians want out of it!
Russia claims to have plasma stealth capability which means they can give stealth capability to any of their current fleet!
And Su-35/37 are far more maneuverable and durable due to years of upgrades and improvements! And that just leaves super cruise and unless the Russians vastly reduce the weight of the Su-Pak or come up with a far better engine that's not going to happen!

Also, the F-22 & F-35 are vastly overrated both fighters need 2 day's of maintenance after each flight making them a large target on the ground against a capable Air Force!

With 120 F-22's to have an F-22 up every day you can't keep more than 40 up every day & the Russian can easily win with numbers regardless of the vast force multiplying capability of the F-22

If they deploy 60 to the Persian Gulf that's only 20 up every day on a daily bases! So you can easily outnumber them if you have a good size Air Force backed by your Air Defense & UCAV's

 

[VEVAK]

exactly the 100% manoto watcher only manoto or voa or bbc i see too but not like him i see both side

I don't watch Manoto at ALL! And I have seen clips from VOA & BBC Farsi on YouTube before regarding various subject & both are without a doubt anti Iranian BUT I have NEVER seen either one of these news outlets talk about Tourism in Iran or the negative effects some of Iran's religious policies has on Tourism!!!! NOT 1 Video!
I'm not claiming that they do or don't exist I'm saying I wouldn't know because I have never seen it!

I didn't even know Manoto reported news! I thought it was TV shows, Documentaries, reality shows & Music videos!
but if do have reports regarding Tourism in Iran or lack there of I would LOVE to see it! Same goes for BBC & VOA!

On a daily bases I get my news from Farsnews, Tasnimnews & PressTV those are the ONLY sites I actually go to but aside from that anything on VOA OR BBC would be clips on youtube and saying I see eve 1 clip a month from each would be an overstatement!

I'm not going to dig my head in the sand I wanna see what the traitors have to say!!!!

FACTS are FACTS!

1

United States 18,569,100 U.S. has 1 Million Immigrants coming in on a yearly bases + And due to high restrictions after 9-11 tourism fell in the U.S. from 9 million per week to 5 million per week Also, with 350 million population & a vast country most of the money made from tourism is done in house between states!

2

China[n 2] 11,218,281

As of 2015, China is the fourth most visited country in the world, after France, United States, and Spain, with 56.9 million international tourists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_China


3

Japan 4,938,644

20-25 Million

4

Germany 3,466,639

In 2012, over 30.4 million international tourists arrived in Germany, bringing over US$38 billion in international tourism receipts to the country.[4] Domestic and international travel and tourism combined directly to contribute over EUR43.2 billion to the German GDP. Including indirect and induced impacts, the industry contributes 4.5% of German GDP and supports 2 million jobs (4.8% of total employment).[5] The ITB Berlin is the world's leading tourism trade fair.[6]

5

United Kingdom 2,629,188

The United Kingdom is the world's 8th biggest tourist destination, with 36.115 million visiting in 2015

6

France 2,463,222

France was visited by 85.7 million foreign tourists in 2013, making it the most popular tourist destination in the world

7

India 2,256,397 (Clearly lacking in international Tourism but with simple taxes coming in from a population of over 1 Billion their government can function without it but lack of Tourism = increased poverty and that is a problem India) Yes their government has money to invest in R&D due to a vast population but for life to improve for their population they need a major boost in international tourism)

Tourism in India is economically important and is growing rapidly. In October 2015, India's medical tourism sector was estimated to be worth US$3 billion. It is projected to grow to $7–8 billion by 2020.[2] In 2014, 184,298 foreign "patients" traveled to India to seek medical treatment.[3]

About 88.90 lakh (8.89 million) foreign tourists arrived in India in 2016 compared to 80.27 lakh (8.027 million) in 2015, recording a growth of 10.7%.[4][5][6] Domestic tourist visits to all states and Union Territories numbered 1,036.35 million in 2012, an increase of 16.5% from 2011.[7] In 2014, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh were the most popular states for tourists.[8] Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Agra and Jaipur have been the five most visited cities of India by foreign tourists during the year 2015. Worldwide, Delhi is ranked at 28 by the number of foreign tourist arrivals, while Mumbai is ranked at 30, Chennai at 43, Agra at 45, Jaipur at 52 and Kolkata at 90.[9]

The Travel & Tourism Competitiveness Report 2017 ranks India 40th out of 136 countries overall

8

Italy 1,850,735

With 48.6 million tourists a year (2014), Italy is the fifth most visited country in international tourism


9

Brazil 1,798,622

The country only had 6.36 million visitors in 2015 (extremely low) but they have a population of 200 Million allows the government to function with taxes! A glance at the figures from the IBGE (Brazil's government statistics bureau,) reveals that 16.2 million people (8.5 percent of the population,) still live on less than R$70 per month – the equivalent of around US$1.30 per person per day


10

Canada 1,529,224

A country with a population of only 36 Million by 2012 had over 16 million tourists arriving in Canada, bringing US$17.4 billion in international tourism receipts to the economy

11

South Korea 1,411,246

Population 50 million has 11 million

12

Russia[n 3] 1,280,731

foods and souvenirs, and show a great variety of traditions, including Russian banya, Nizhny Novgorod Khokhloma and Matryoshka, Tatar Sabantuy, or Siberian shamanist rituals. In 2013, Russia was visited by 33 million tourists, making it the ninth-most visited country in the world and the seventh-most visited in Europe


13

Australia 1,258,978

Population of only 24 Million In calendar year 2015, there were 7.4 million visitor arrivals (That's a country with less than 1/3 of Iran's population)

Tourism in Australia is an important component of the Australian economy. In the financial year 2014/15, tourism represented 3.0% of Australia's GDP contributing A$47.5 billion to the national economy.[2] Domestic tourism is a significant part of the tourism industry, representing 73% of the total direct tourism GDP

14

Spain 1,232,597

Tourism in Spain is a major contributor to the national economic life just after the industry, contributing about 10-11% of Spain's GDP.

In 2016 Spain was the third most visited country in the world, recording 75.3 million tourists which marked the fourth consecutive year of record-beating numbers


15

Mexico 1,046,002

10 Million Tourists a year (A low number for a country with 120 Million people and as a result you have vast poverty and most of the GDP is in the hands of Americans companies making products with cheap labor)

16

Indonesia 932,448

Tourism in Indonesia is an important component of the Indonesian economy as well as a significant source of its foreign exchange revenues

During 2016 about 12.02 million foreign tourists visited Indonesia, which was 15.5% higher than that of 2015.[3] In year 2015, 9.73 million international visitors entered Indonesia, staying in hotels for an average of 7.5 nights and spending an average of US$1,142 per person during their visit



17

Turkey 857,429
18

Netherlands 771,163
19

Switzerland 659,850
20

Saudi Arabia 639,617


So clearly it is NOT possible to have a healthy economy without a healthy Tourism industry and yes with population over 200 million people there are way's to make up the difference BUT!

There is NOT a single country on the planet with a population the size of Iran that has a healthy economy without a healthy Tourism industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an undeniable FACT! You people can put your head in the sand and cry all you want but that is a FACT!

If your so close minded that your not even willing to even see restrictions be removed from "SOME" parts of Iran "OUTSIDE THE CAPITAL" then YOU are the issue!!!!! And you need to weak up and check yourself into a mental institution!

 

[Stryker1982]

I don't watch Manoto at ALL! And I have seen clips from VOA & BBC Farsi on YouTube before regarding various subject & both are without a doubt anti Iranian BUT I have NEVER seen either one of these news outlets talk about Tourism in Iran or the negative effects some of Iran's religious policies has on Tourism!!!! NOT 1 Video!
I'm not claiming that they do or don't exist I'm saying I wouldn't know because I have never seen it!

I didn't even know Manoto reported news! I thought it was TV shows, Documentaries, reality shows & Music videos!
but if do have reports regarding Tourism in Iran or lack there of I would LOVE to see it! Same goes for BBC & VOA!

On a daily bases I get my news from Farsnews, Tasnimnews & PressTV those are the ONLY sites I actually go to but aside from that anything on VOA OR BBC would be clips on youtube and saying I see eve 1 clip a month from each would be an overstatement!

I'm not going to dig my head in the sand I wanna see what the traitors have to say!!!!

FACTS are FACTS!

1

United States 18,569,100 U.S. has 1 Million Immigrants coming in on a yearly bases + And due to high restrictions after 9-11 tourism fell in the U.S. from 9 million per week to 5 million per week Also, with 350 million population & a vast country most of the money made from tourism is done in house between states!

2

China[n 2] 11,218,281

As of 2015, China is the fourth most visited country in the world, after France, United States, and Spain, with 56.9 million international tourists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_China


3

Japan 4,938,644

20-25 Million

4

Germany 3,466,639

In 2012, over 30.4 million international tourists arrived in Germany, bringing over US$38 billion in international tourism receipts to the country.[4] Domestic and international travel and tourism combined directly to contribute over EUR43.2 billion to the German GDP. Including indirect and induced impacts, the industry contributes 4.5% of German GDP and supports 2 million jobs (4.8% of total employment).[5] The ITB Berlin is the world's leading tourism trade fair.[6]

5

United Kingdom 2,629,188

The United Kingdom is the world's 8th biggest tourist destination, with 36.115 million visiting in 2015

6

France 2,463,222

France was visited by 85.7 million foreign tourists in 2013, making it the most popular tourist destination in the world

7

India 2,256,397 (Clearly lacking in international Tourism but with simple taxes coming in from a population of over 1 Billion their government can function without it but lack of Tourism = increased poverty and that is a problem India) Yes their government has money to invest in R&D due to a vast population but for life to improve for their population they need a major boost in international tourism)

Tourism in India is economically important and is growing rapidly. In October 2015, India's medical tourism sector was estimated to be worth US$3 billion. It is projected to grow to $7–8 billion by 2020.[2] In 2014, 184,298 foreign "patients" traveled to India to seek medical treatment.[3]

About 88.90 lakh (8.89 million) foreign tourists arrived in India in 2016 compared to 80.27 lakh (8.027 million) in 2015, recording a growth of 10.7%.[4][5][6] Domestic tourist visits to all states and Union Territories numbered 1,036.35 million in 2012, an increase of 16.5% from 2011.[7] In 2014, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh were the most popular states for tourists.[8] Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Agra and Jaipur have been the five most visited cities of India by foreign tourists during the year 2015. Worldwide, Delhi is ranked at 28 by the number of foreign tourist arrivals, while Mumbai is ranked at 30, Chennai at 43, Agra at 45, Jaipur at 52 and Kolkata at 90.[9]

The Travel & Tourism Competitiveness Report 2017 ranks India 40th out of 136 countries overall

8

Italy 1,850,735

With 48.6 million tourists a year (2014), Italy is the fifth most visited country in international tourism


9

Brazil 1,798,622

The country only had 6.36 million visitors in 2015 (extremely low) but they have a population of 200 Million allows the government to function with taxes! A glance at the figures from the IBGE (Brazil's government statistics bureau,) reveals that 16.2 million people (8.5 percent of the population,) still live on less than R$70 per month – the equivalent of around US$1.30 per person per day


10

Canada 1,529,224

A country with a population of only 36 Million by 2012 had over 16 million tourists arriving in Canada, bringing US$17.4 billion in international tourism receipts to the economy

11

South Korea 1,411,246

Population 50 million has 11 million

12

Russia[n 3] 1,280,731

foods and souvenirs, and show a great variety of traditions, including Russian banya, Nizhny Novgorod Khokhloma and Matryoshka, Tatar Sabantuy, or Siberian shamanist rituals. In 2013, Russia was visited by 33 million tourists, making it the ninth-most visited country in the world and the seventh-most visited in Europe


13

Australia 1,258,978

Population of only 24 Million In calendar year 2015, there were 7.4 million visitor arrivals (That's a country with less than 1/3 of Iran's population)

Tourism in Australia is an important component of the Australian economy. In the financial year 2014/15, tourism represented 3.0% of Australia's GDP contributing A$47.5 billion to the national economy.[2] Domestic tourism is a significant part of the tourism industry, representing 73% of the total direct tourism GDP

14

Spain 1,232,597

Tourism in Spain is a major contributor to the national economic life just after the industry, contributing about 10-11% of Spain's GDP.

In 2016 Spain was the third most visited country in the world, recording 75.3 million tourists which marked the fourth consecutive year of record-beating numbers


15

Mexico 1,046,002

10 Million Tourists a year (A low number for a country with 120 Million people and as a result you have vast poverty and most of the GDP is in the hands of Americans companies making products with cheap labor)

16

Indonesia 932,448

Tourism in Indonesia is an important component of the Indonesian economy as well as a significant source of its foreign exchange revenues

During 2016 about 12.02 million foreign tourists visited Indonesia, which was 15.5% higher than that of 2015.[3] In year 2015, 9.73 million international visitors entered Indonesia, staying in hotels for an average of 7.5 nights and spending an average of US$1,142 per person during their visit



17

Turkey 857,429
18

Netherlands 771,163
19

Switzerland 659,850
20

Saudi Arabia 639,617


So clearly it is NOT possible to have a healthy economy without a healthy Tourism industry and yes with population over 200 million people there are way's to make up the difference BUT!

There is NOT a single country on the planet with a population the size of Iran that has a healthy economy without a healthy Tourism industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an undeniable FACT! You people can put your head in the sand and cry all you want but that is a FACT!

If your so close minded that your not even willing to even see restrictions be removed from "SOME" parts of Iran "OUTSIDE THE CAPITAL" then YOU are the issue!!!!! And you need to weak up and check yourself into a mental institution!

Indeed, Its not even just money or hijab, its the hundreds of thousands of jobs that would be created by having similar tourism input like Turkey, and with a country as rich in history and culture as iran this should be soooooooo easy.

 

[AmirPatriot]

But I believe they were covertly tested inside Iran to see how they do in high heat high dust areas!

...ok

 

[Dinky]

If your so close minded that your not even willing to even see restrictions be removed from "SOME" parts of Iran "OUTSIDE THE CAPITAL" then YOU are the issue!!!!! And you need to weak up and check yourself into a mental institution!

And what would some of that restrictions be you want removed?