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[N_Al40]

I think Iran might take a similar approach, like the Russians with their 5th gen. fighter, and produce early versions of the F-313 with Owj Turbojet engine and then re-produce an improved version with the J90 Turbofan.

This would give the IRIAF and IRGCAF some breathing space until a better F-313 is rolled out, with a Turbofan engine.

 

[VEVAK]

And what would some of that restrictions be you want removed?

1.Iran is restricting it's self in the Entertainment Industry from Music Industry, clubs,....
2.In the south most of Iran's Islands & clear blue water beaches are under developed & there is a good reason for that!
3.Iran's Capital and a few major cities are overpopulated & the reason for that is clear! all the jobs are there & people go where there are jobs and economic opportunities!
4.Alcoholic Beverage industry is a major industry from wine, beer to liquor! Iranians invented win! And God knows that getting your hands on Alcohol is as easy as a phone call away! Any Iranian can get it regardless of Age & the government can't regulate it because it has it's head in the sand as a result some opportunist without any restrictions sell home made moonshine & vodka which as been causing blindness!
5.As for Hejab fact is if there was a vote in Iran over 70% of the population would vote against Hejab by force! And another fact is if the restriction were removed o~70% of Iranian women would dress the same way they do today!
Hejab by force is UNISLAMIC! Hejab by force and an enforced dress code is destroying Iran's ability to have a healthy Tourism Industry!
Also, Iranians should have a choice if some in Iran want to live a certain way they should be free to move to a city inside the country & live the way they want!
Just because the people of Syria aren't forced to live a certain way in public doesn't mean they are not Muslims!
And a true Islamic country would allow people to have a choice if you want to live in a city where Hejab is force that is your right! And if you don't that is your right as well!

And like it or not Tourism is THE biggest industry in the world and it's indirect effects on your economy and products produced in your country far out way it's initial direct effects

Tourism is also a major source of international currency without it the currency of your country can't stabilize!

Also, you can use removing restrictions in underdeveloped areas as a way to promote both foreign and domestic investment in those areas so the population of your country don't get cramped in a few major city's

 

[VEVAK]

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I think Iran might take a similar approach, like the Russians with their 5th gen. fighter, and produce early versions of the F-313 with Owj Turbojet engine and then re-produce an improved version with the J90 Turbofan.

This would give the IRIAF and IRGCAF some breathing space until a better F-313 is rolled out, with a Turbofan engine.

J-90 will power the Kowsar Jet trainer we'll see how that goes! 50 have already been ordered by the Air Force!

As for the F-313 in it's flight tests it's RCS testing & range would have to out perfume Iran's Saegheh with the same amount of ordinance! If it fails to do so it is not likely that Iran would invest in it because Iran's titanium plants would be online before that aircraft hits serial production!
And the Saegheh Airframe doesn't require a lot of Ti unlike other fighters like the F-14, F-15,.... So it would be a relatively cheep airframe to produce if you produce your own Ti & you don't have to smuggle it in at over 100 times the cost!

 

[arashkamangir]

J-90 will power the Kowsar Jet trainer we'll see how that goes! 50 have already been ordered by the Air Force!

As for the F-313 in it's flight tests it's RCS testing & range would have to out perfume Iran's Saegheh with the same amount of ordinance! If it fails to do so it is not likely that Iran would invest in it because Iran's titanium plants would be online before that aircraft hits serial production!
And the Saegheh Airframe doesn't require a lot of Ti unlike other fighters like the F-14, F-15,.... So it would be a relatively cheep airframe to produce if you produce your own Ti & you don't have to smuggle it in at over 100 times the cost!

@VEVAK could you please provide references for the air force order of Kowsar and the J-90 usage.

Thanks

 

[Stryker1982]

1.Iran is restricting it's self in the Entertainment Industry from Music Industry, clubs,....
2.In the south most of Iran's Islands & clear blue water beaches are under developed & there is a good reason for that!
3.Iran's Capital and a few major cities are overpopulated & the reason for that is clear! all the jobs are there & people go where there are jobs and economic opportunities!
4.Alcoholic Beverage industry is a major industry from wine, beer to liquor! Iranians invented win! And God knows that getting your hands on Alcohol is as easy as a phone call away! Any Iranian can get it regardless of Age & the government can't regulate it because it has it's head in the sand as a result some opportunist without any restrictions sell home made moonshine & vodka which as been causing blindness!
5.As for Hejab fact is if there was a vote in Iran over 70% of the population would vote against Hejab by force! And another fact is if the restriction were removed o~70% of Iranian women would dress the same way they do today!
Hejab by force is UNISLAMIC! Hejab by force and an enforced dress code is destroying Iran's ability to have a healthy Tourism Industry!
Also, Iranians should have a choice if some in Iran want to live a certain way they should be free to move to a city inside the country & live the way they want!
Just because the people of Syria aren't forced to live a certain way in public doesn't mean they are not Muslims!
And a true Islamic country would allow people to have a choice if you want to live in a city where Hejab is force that is your right! And if you don't that is your right as well!

And like it or not Tourism is THE biggest industry in the world and it's indirect effects on your economy and products produced in your country far out way it's initial direct effects

Tourism is also a major source of international currency without it the currency of your country can't stabilize!

Also, you can use removing restrictions in underdeveloped areas as a way to promote both foreign and domestic investment in those areas so the population of your country don't get cramped in a few major city's

Look at the way nasrallah runs Hezbollah and Lebenon. They are our biggest allies, practically a branch of our military and yet the difference in freedoms Lebanese people have compared to Iran is 10 fold. ITs not hard to find women with no hejab, and showing their arms while carrying a portrait of nasrallah and hezbollah flag. Hezbollahi's don't force Lebanese people to not drink alcohol or wear hijab, or no dancing. Why does our government treat our people worse than people of other countries. I'd rather have nasrallah run Iran because atleast he's a good, charismatic,smart and freedom loving guy. They love nasrallah because forcing people to do things is unislamic. Everyone knows that a large majority of our people do not like hejab, this is a fact and this is not good for the health of a country, this division is bad. Freedoms is a way to solve social divisions. Their are tens of thousands of highly educated women, and men leaving each year because of lack of social freedoms.

Just a month ago, OUR OWN WOMEN are banned from watching in stadiums while SYRIAN FOREIGNERS were allowed in. How retarded is this government. They treat foreigners better than their own citizens. This is a national shame. More shameful than the fact we still use M60's.

 

[skyshadow]

New clothes for Air Force Brigade Nohod 65

 

[Stryker1982]

New clothes for Air Force Brigade Nohod 65View attachment 432879 View attachment 432880 View attachment 432881

This is for nohed 65th brigade? It would be about time for their equipment to be upgraded. They will be well protected and supplied with these tactical vests and helmets. I would really like to see nohed 65th to take a more forward offensive role in areas of interest in west asia but they dont

 

[skyshadow]

This is for nohed 65th brigade? It would be about time for their equipment to be upgraded. They will be well protected and supplied with these tactical vests and helmets. I would really like to see nohed 65th to take a more forward offensive role in areas of interest in west asia but they dont

Yes, these clothes are made special for the air force. And for long missions they need to have a lot of ammunition as well as bulletproof vests that should at least be able to prevent the penetration of g-3 bullets. This is part of the functionality of this dress that is said. According to the (soro)project, all military uniforms of the next generation should be high resistance and also have smart communication equipment. داریم پیشرفت میکنیم مشخص است که این لباس های برای ماموریت های خارج از کشوره ولی نمیگن اینارو.

 

[VEVAK]

It would be ridiculous to suggest an airforce is a burden rather than an asset. Iran proved this in the war. The absolute necessity for a modern airforce especially now more than ever, with better guidance, precisions and payloads and all kinds of weapons system available. And russia has proven this in Syria as well. Without russian airforce assad wouldn't win this war, they single handily won the war, but softening defence so much for easy capitulation. and people are still arguing about if we need a robust airforce or not. I really don't get it.




Wait do we have the ability to produce the titanium alloys necessary for aircraft production? In terms of material engineering and mining, how are we doing here?



Well within Iran abilities if a project like this is taken seriously and funded seriously.

A lot of Iranians are badly miss informed due to a poor job of the Iranian Media when it comes to reporting on the military!

Sadly Iran's major media outlets are filled with bad reporters! And people that have failed the country miserably as it pertains to the Military!!!

If the reporters were doing their job properly most Iranians of all political parties (not politicians) would be outraged of the low budget that actually goes towards weapons acquisition compared to other countries in the world!!!!!!!!!!
For a country like Iran with the natural resources we have & need to protect, with the security challenges that we face, with the technological capability that exist among our youth for a country like us to spend less than half of what the UAE is spending on acquisition is absurd!

Spending $2 Billion USD a year on acquisition for your Air Force in a country the size of Iran is NOTHING!
And it doesn't matter that sanctions have prevented Iran from buying an Air Force if you can't buy it then that money needs to go towards R&D & towards building the most advanced fighter within your capability!

At the very least Iran needs to be spending $16-$17 Billion on yearly weapons acquisitions and at least $2 Billion USD should go towards new manned Aircrafts for the Air Force whether it's domestic or not can be debated but that money needs to be spent

If we can't even outspend the UAE by $3 Billion on weapons acquisition and R&D then there is something wrong! Especially since unlike the UAE most of that money will create new jobs and will get recycled into Iran's economy!

@VEVAK could you please provide references for the air force order of Kowsar and the J-90 usage.

Thanks

3:40 into the video 50 have been ordered the engine is J-90 but the camera man showed Tolu-4 engine when he was talking about the engine so that's not the J-90 but the Kowsar is powered by the J-90

Look at the way nasrallah runs Hezbollah and Lebenon. They are our biggest allies, practically a branch of our military and yet the difference in freedoms Lebanese people have compared to Iran is 10 fold. ITs not hard to find women with no hejab, and showing their arms while carrying a portrait of nasrallah and hezbollah flag. Hezbollahi's don't force Lebanese people to not drink alcohol or wear hijab, or no dancing. Why does our government treat our people worse than people of other countries. I'd rather have nasrallah run Iran because atleast he's a good, charismatic,smart and freedom loving guy. They love nasrallah because forcing people to do things is unislamic. Everyone knows that a large majority of our people do not like hejab, this is a fact and this is not good for the health of a country, this division is bad. Freedoms is a way to solve social divisions. Their are tens of thousands of highly educated women, and men leaving each year because of lack of social freedoms.

Just a month ago, OUR OWN WOMEN are banned from watching in stadiums while SYRIAN FOREIGNERS were allowed in. How retarded is this government. They treat foreigners better than their own citizens. This is a national shame. More shameful than the fact we still use M60's.

Forcing Hejab doesn't make a country Islamic or lack of a forced Hejab doesn't make a country UNISLAMIC
Syria, Iraq, Lebanon,... These are all Islamic countries but Hijab is not forced on people!
Some people here live in a bubble!

The fact that Iran forces Hijab is not only bad for tourism but it's also bad for it's image among regional allied countries!
In Syria Iranian solders feels this in their relations with Syrian solders!
In Lebanon they used to scare the Lebanese population that if Hezbullah takes power Lebanon will be like Iran! Hejab will be forced and night clubs closed down which would have resulted in the death of their tourism industry!

Hejab by force is absolutely UNISLAMIC and nowhere in the Quran is such a thing even allowed! And you tell that to people and they claim Hejab by force is part of our culture! What the hell kind of culture gets forced on people by the end of a wipe! IT'S ABSURD!

Only enemies of Iran like Israel, Saudi Arabia & U.S. want that law to continue! Because it destroys Iran's economy, makes Iran's currency unstable & susceptible to sanctions & it gives them a extra talking point to try to separate Iran's population from this government!
I just don't see any logic behind anyone that wants this government to stay in power to continue to support an absurd retarded law like Hejab by force!!!!

 

[N_Al40]

Is the J-90 based on the RD-33?

And does it have better wet thrust?

 

[arashkamangir]

Is the J-90 based on the RD-33?

And does it have better wet thrust?

No it's a turbofan version of Tolu Owj turbojet which itself is a reversed engineeree J-85.

 

[N_Al40]

No it's a turbofan version of Tolu turbojet which itself is a reversed engineeree J-85.

Ahh right.

Someone in this forum mentioned that Iran is working on a RD-33 like-engine, so I assumed it was the J-90. Must be a different project then.

 

[N_Al40]

Ahh right.

Someone in this forum mentioned that Iran is working on a RD-33 like-engine, so I assumed it was the J-90. Must be a different project then.

Claims that Iran already has a turbofan engine [emoji1312]

 

[eagle2007]

ALCON,

IIRC, the Tolu series of jet engines are small types with no relations to the J85 at all (see their confirmed use in the C-802 family of Iranian AshMs and the Karrar target drones, ranging from 800-900lbs of thrust). So any reference to the J90 being a turbofan variant of the Tolu would logically point to it being a small turbofan engines with ~1000lb of thrust.

The Iranian-built J85-GE-21 recently shown publicly goes by the name of "Owj".

Concerning the bit about the JT8D, and PeeD can confirm this or not, refers to Iranian companies being able to manufacture major components of the engine but NOT the engine engine itself.

 

[Stryker1982]

A lot of Iranians are badly miss informed due to a poor job of the Iranian Media when it comes to reporting on the military!

Sadly Iran's major media outlets are filled with bad reporters! And people that have failed the country miserably as it pertains to the Military!!!

If the reporters were doing their job properly most Iranians of all political parties (not politicians) would be outraged of the low budget that actually goes towards weapons acquisition compared to other countries in the world!!!!!!!!!!
For a country like Iran with the natural resources we have & need to protect, with the security challenges that we face, with the technological capability that exist among our youth for a country like us to spend less than half of what the UAE is spending on acquisition is absurd!

Spending $2 Billion USD a year on acquisition for your Air Force in a country the size of Iran is NOTHING!
And it doesn't matter that sanctions have prevented Iran from buying an Air Force if you can't buy it then that money needs to go towards R&D & towards building the most advanced fighter within your capability!

At the very least Iran needs to be spending $16-$17 Billion on yearly weapons acquisitions and at least $2 Billion USD should go towards new manned Aircrafts for the Air Force whether it's domestic or not can be debated but that money needs to be spent

If we can't even outspend the UAE by $3 Billion on weapons acquisition and R&D then there is something wrong! Especially since unlike the UAE most of that money will create new jobs and will get recycled into Iran's economy!

3:40 into the video 50 have been ordered the engine is J-90 but the camera man showed Tolu-4 engine when he was talking about the engine so that's not the J-90 but the Kowsar is powered by the J-90



Forcing Hejab doesn't make a country Islamic or lack of a forced Hejab doesn't make a country UNISLAMIC
Syria, Iraq, Lebanon,... These are all Islamic countries but Hijab is not forced on people!
Some people here live in a bubble!

The fact that Iran forces Hijab is not only bad for tourism but it's also bad for it's image among regional allied countries!
In Syria Iranian solders feels this in their relations with Syrian solders!
In Lebanon they used to scare the Lebanese population that if Hezbullah takes power Lebanon will be like Iran! Hejab will be forced and night clubs closed down which would have resulted in the death of their tourism industry!

Hejab by force is absolutely UNISLAMIC and nowhere in the Quran is such a thing even allowed! And you tell that to people and they claim Hejab by force is part of our culture! What the hell kind of culture gets forced on people by the end of a wipe! IT'S ABSURD!

Only enemies of Iran like Israel, Saudi Arabia & U.S. want that law to continue! Because it destroys Iran's economy, makes Iran's currency unstable & susceptible to sanctions & it gives them a extra talking point to try to separate Iran's population from this government!
I just don't see any logic behind anyone that wants this government to stay in power to continue to support an absurd retarded law like Hejab by force!!!!

50 Kowsars have been ordered? Wow thats alot, Kowsars besides being a trainer should be able to perform CAS is that correct? Whats the point of Qaher when airforce clearly doesn't care. Is Iran going to have Qaher for Sepah and Kowsar for artesh? Again, their is so much inefficient and waste in the military industry.