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Iran's oil minister says Pakistan not cooperating on gas pipeline

-IPI (Iran Pakistan India gas pipeline)
-Iran was supposed to sell gas to India via Pakistan.
-Iran was supposed to build pipeline in Iran which she did.
-India was supposed to build pipeline in India which she didn't.
-Pakistan was supposed to build pipeline in Pakistan after getting funded by India and Iran and buy little gas afterwards for her own need as Pakistan already have limited reserves of gas which are enough for next 3 decades. But due to electricity crisis we wanted to use gas for power generation at that time, so IPI made sense at that time. Now after CPEC and Qatar LNG, it's useless.
-Neither India nor Iran paid Pakis money to build pipeline.
- India backed out of project because Pakistan might cut the supply line during crises and India doesn't want Pakistan to have any leverage.
- Now Iran is forcing/begging/requesting Pakistan to build pipeline on his own and buy gas from them on their OWN tariffs.
- So far Pakistan is only buying little bit of gas from Iran in Gwadar which is right next door to Iran.

Will Pakistan build pipeline all the way to Karach and Lahore and buy gas from Iran on thier own high tariffs especially at a time when we don't even desperately need gas? Time will tell.

PS-(This is what I have understood so far and I could be wrong)

Seriously ???? Do you think India just agreed to fund a project in Pakistan ?? LOL :disagree::disagree::disagree::disagree::disagree:

But one thing is correct. It is India who backed out initially. It's because we have our on plans for an undersea Iran-India gas pipeline, exclusively for us. :dance3::dance3::dance3:
 
Then why doesn't the Pakistanis government tell the Iranian government the project is no longer viable and should be terminated?
Because deep,deep down the pakistanis are still desperately hoping for some kind of solution,a political or economic miracle and that they will either get some sort of political exemption from the us allowing this to go ahead without some sort of economic/political problems/sanctions for pak or that iran will in desperation agree to pay for the whole entire thing and they will basically get the pipeline for free [LOL!!] or that the chinese will come to the rescue and either put up the cash or else build paks section for them,personally I think that these are all utterly forlorn hopes with virtually no chance of being realised at all,but sadly when one is a vassal state sometimes forlorn hopes are all the hopes you`re allowed to have.Whats really funny to me is the number of pak posters here who will insist that its the fault of literally everyone else that this project has not happened when in fact it was simply the fault of their own government.
 
what a great idea, they think they can do a NATO on us.

Calm down.your self delusional and ambitious triggers get way ahead of your pee brain.

Because deep,deep down the pakistanis are still desperately hoping for some kind of solution,a political or economic miracle and that they will either get some sort of political exemption from the us allowing this to go ahead without some sort of economic/political problems/sanctions for pak or that iran will in desperation agree to pay for the whole entire thing and they will basically get the pipeline for free [LOL!!] or that the chinese will come to the rescue and either put up the cash or else build paks section for them,personally I think that these are all utterly forlorn hopes with virtually no chance of being realised at all,but sadly when one is a vassal state sometimes forlorn hopes are all the hopes you`re allowed to have.Whats really funny to me is the number of pak posters here who will insist that its the fault of literally everyone else that this project has not happened when in fact it was simply the fault of their own government.

Are you stupid. Or just a reborn again Indian report states Iranian minister blaming Pakistan for delays you pee brain.

Seriously ???? Do you think India just agreed to fund a project in Pakistan ?? LOL :disagree::disagree::disagree::disagree::disagree:

But one thing is correct. It is India who backed out initially. It's because we have our on plans for an undersea Iran-India gas pipeline, exclusively for us. :dance3::dance3::dance3:

No one is denying that here you twit.Iran is upset here not Pakistan Indian band playing its usual looney tune of victory here . Pakistan was only a middleman in this project as a transit point and route nothing more
It does not change the fact ,You need gas.And Iran needs to sell it now go and work out a formula for this .
Oh yes the famous undersea pipeline for this . just like the amazing cheap cargo fruit plane from India to Afghanistan as a truimpth one a month great success very good no problems with that stay out of our areas .
 
No one is denying that here you twit.Iran is upset here not Pakistan Indian band playing its usual looney tune of victory here . Pakistan was only a middleman in this project as a transit point and route nothing moreIt does not change the fact ,You need gas.And Iran needs to sell it now go and work out a formula for this .Oh yes the famous undersea pipeline for this . just like the amazing cheap cargo fruit plane from India to Afghanistan as a truimpth one a month great success very good no problems with that stay out of our areas .

While you are rediculing India you guy's are simply disregarding the fact as per agreement

Pakistan will be buying 2.75 million metric ton per year (MTPA) of LNG from Qatar at a price of 13.3 per cent of the prevailing price of a barrel of Brent Oil for a period of 15 years starting April 2016.

Under this formula, if LNG is priced at 13.3 per cent of Brent and the price of Brent is $50 per barrel, then the price of LNG comes out to be (13.3 x 50) or $ 6.65 per mmBtu.

Currently, the going spot price for LNG is around $10.50 per mmBtu (as of Dec 2017)or 10 per cent of Brent, which is almost 25 per cent less than Pakistan's price agreed with Qatar. Assuming the current spot rate of LNG in the international market remains almost the same till 2031 (the possibility of which is quite strong), you would lose $6 billion in the Qatar deal over a period of 15 years. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/expe...y-additional-usd-2-5-billion-to-qatar.476282/

Forget India all these things are happening when you have a very cheap alternative of buying LNG from Iran.

As far as India concerned, without Pakistan's collaboration on gas pipeline or overland transit, do we have any other options ??? So no regrets. :p:
 
The price of the Iranian Gas is linked to the price of the oil on the wish of Pakistan.

And indeed the Iranian gas is much cheaper than the Qatar liquefied gas. So yes, still Pakistan is in need of cheap gas from Iran.


Gwadar as Refuelling Hub:

Iran gas pipeline was not only the supply of gas, but Iranian government gave the whole package which also consisted of building the biggest OIL Refinery at Gwadar, making it the Refuelling hub in the region.

But UAE strongly opposed this Oil Refinery which could turn Gwadar to Refuelling hub, while at moment this refuelling is done in UAE and it is earning billions of dollars through it.

But Gwadar is situated ideally and Ships has to cover 200 km less for refuelling in case of Gwadar as compared to UAE.


You remember that Pakistan ISI Chief Pasha once had question answers session in the Parliament, where he told that UAE is directly involved in spreading terrorism in the Baluchistan. It was precisely due to this Refuelling Hub. UAE does not want any Refinery and Iranian oil in Gwadar which could turn it into Refuelling hub.


Few important links:

1. General Shuja Pasha telling UAE involved in insurgency in Baluchistan

2. The Gwadar Oil Refinery .... 4 Billion Dollars Investment ... http://dawn.com/2013/02/21/iran-tose...ery-in-gwadar/
 
Seriously ???? Do you think India just agreed to fund a project in Pakistan ?? LOL :disagree::disagree::disagree::disagree::disagree:

But one thing is correct. It is India who backed out initially. It's because we have our on plans for an undersea Iran-India gas pipeline, exclusively for us. :dance3::dance3::dance3:

Pakistan wouldnt allow any pipelines on the seabeds of its its extended EEz under the pretext of

1)UNCLOS Article 79 (Subjective freedom under Article 58 refers to Article 87 and Article 87 refers to Article 79)
http://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part6.htm

2. Subject to its right to take reasonable measures for the exploration of the continental shelf, the exploitation of its natural resources and the prevention, reduction and control of pollution from pipelines, the coastal State may not impede the laying or maintenance of such cables or pipelines.

3. The delineation of the course for the laying of such pipelines on the continental shelf is subject to the consent of the coastal State.

4. Nothing in this Part affects the right of the coastal State to establish conditions for cables or pipelines entering its territory or territorial sea, or its jurisdiction over cables and pipelines constructed or used in connection with the exploration of its continental shelf or exploitation of its resources or the operations of artificial islands, installations and structures under its jurisdiction.


And this...

2) Pakistans official stand on Article 79 as recognized by UN

http://www.un.org/depts/los/LEGISLATIONANDTREATIES/PDFFILES/PAK_1976_Act.pdf

(3) No person, including a foreign Government, shall, except under, and in accordance with the terms of, any agreement with the Federal Government or a licence or letter of authority granted by the Federal Government, explore the Continental Shelf or exploit is resources or carry out any search or excavation or conduct any research within the Continental Shelf or drill therein or construct, maintain or operate therein for any purpose whatsoever any artificial islands, offshore terminal, installation or other structure or device.

(6) Subject to any measures that may be necessary for protecting the interests of Pakistan, and without prejudice to the provisions of subsection (2), the Federal Government may not impede the laying or maintenance of submarine cables or pipelines on the sea-bed of the Continental Shelf by foreign States: Provided that the consent of the Federal Government shall be necessary for the delineation of the course for the laying of such cables or pipelines.



So you have to take it around (in red) unless Pakistan agrees .The present Iran-Oman-India pipeline path(in black)
shows Indians respected the older EEZ of Pakistan and adhered to UNCLOS rules as detailed above.The official SAGE site also shows a map adhering the EEZ sensitivities of Pakistan.
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Then why doesn't the Pakistanis government tell the Iranian government the project is no longer viable and should be terminated?
easy answer . because the Pakistani establishment want to play double game with gas pipe line card which the Iranian side fully aware of
 
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