Iranian-Turk-Azeri border deployments

[SalarHaqq]

If I may ask a question to the moderator who rejected my reporting of post #40, which was preceded by similar content in post #30 : on what grounds was the decision taken, sir?

These "Tweets" constitute fake news. Iranian general Bagheri never made that statement ("4000 missiles" to be launched at the "city of Baku"). Nor did any other Iranian official. The claim is nowhere to be found in any valid media. Only a handful of private "Twitter" accounts are issuing it, with no source nor evidence to back it up. As such, it would qualify as flamebaiting.

You are welcome to look for a source and shall reach the conclusion that there is none.

It is my understanding that blatant disinformation goes against forum rules.

Regards.

 

[Cash GK]

Because the war on terror barely touched Urban Punjab.

You mean to say war on terror did not touch UK USA European territory n it was fault of Punjab n it makes Punjab less expert on war on terror. Banda la leva chitter tee bichwara tomatoes k tara ker deye

 

[Hack-Hook]

Your comments are rude. Just accept that Iranian territory is being used against us and Iranians aren't much concerned about it.

am I rude , which part a member showed a picture of an old soldier that was showing his physical readiness in case of war by some gymnastic move and tried to use it as insult , I remained him that its gymnastic move and if you want to learn it you must start from childhood , I also point to him if they think it will help them in their fight against terrorisms we will be glad o teach them that but honestly learning the tactic to fight terror group is more useful in fighting them than learning some fitness technique
about our border is being used to attack you , I posted a link that show in Baluchistan in last week your troop come under fire at least four time is all those incident our problem also I pointed out there is no evidence that this attack originated from Iranian side of the border and the last time you claimed that it turned out that the attack happened 20km inside Pakistan border and had nothing to do with Iranian side at all

It means everything keeping your values intact. These who abandon their values in mere seconds will do the same with their country this is just a universal fact

what about Iran itself

 

[Hack-Hook]

'Baloch Rebels'


Im not talking about the attack

and these move are a sign that to Azerbaijan that we don't tolerate any change in our neighbors borders and had nothing to do with Pakistan , these are in response to reports that Azerbaijan want annex part of the Armenian land adjacent to Iran Armenia border and cut our routes to Armenia, we just want to remained them that if they do that we had to open another route to Armenia , preferably through Nakhchivan .you knew still in May Iranian heart that land is part of Iran and if Azerbaijan do something foolish , we may to made a security buffer there to protect our interest caucus area.

 

[Tomcats]

Why would we be concerned about that? You don't seem concerned that an Azerbaijani official has said that Pakistan would wipe Iran off the map, right after your military drill with them. Did Pakistani authorities condemn that or distance themselves from that statement?

I mean Iran had mass protests against it in Sistan but okay nothing to be concerned about i guess... Though not sure how a randomn Azeri is a spokesperson for the Pakistani government? Certain Indians claim Israel will together crush Pakistan or with xyz country though that's never Israeli gov policy.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Very wrong on nearly all accounts

Iran had hundreds of US made M60A1 pattons and Chieftans to fight the Iraqi army. That paired with being the ONLY country other than the US to operate the f14, and also operating the F5. You didnt have nothing. You had a lot. Also the iraqi army took khorramshahr.

Today the iranian military wont do much without a proper air force. F4, f5, f14 and few mig 29 wont be enough to stop a conventional fighting force. Esepcially Pakistan

you forget that nearly 2/3rd of them was rendered inoperative by some misguided people who later learned the hard way what mistake they committed .
majority of the F-14 were sabotaged by USA contractors and trainers before leaving Iran, and it took us two years to fix the problem , also F-14 is not an ordinary plan , for each 8 hours of the flight it need nearly 24 hours of maintenance and before the revolution the maintenance were done by American not Iranian after the war our technicians had to learn how to maintain them, and not to mention the sanction stopped any needed part and equipment to reach Iran.
F5 an airplane that is blind 20km away and in its original form were only good foe dogfighting and probably some bombing , nowhere near the airplanes our adversary had , we wanted to change them with F-16 but the revolution closed that path indefinitely .and 20000 Iraqi best forces more than 30 days to take an empty city protected by less than 300 men and those 30 days gave us enough time to prepare the defense of Abadan and as a result Iraqi army besieged the city for two years and could not occupy Khorramshahr sister city , for the information Khorramshahr was a city the people went for weekends , Abadan was one they went for trade non of them had significant milltary presence to begin with .

Iran hasnt fought an insurgency the same size or lethality as Pakistan's

if you knew the situation at start of the revolution and how Shahid Chamran secured Kurdistan you'd have not said that

 

[Hack-Hook]

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who said the second country was Iran some member from PDF, it was find in India , the origin was Afghanistan now one ask himself who control Afghanistan ?

 

[Hack-Hook]

So calm that rebels can kill a dozen and than yiu can bitch and blame Pakistan.
As for training yeah fam try not shooting an airliner next time.

I'm impressed you want to use an Tor-M1 to fight some sandal wearing Ak-47 equipped dude

 

[arjunk]

With all respect. Our main enemy is the USA. And i was being respectful.

Iran's ancient air force will last a few hours at best against a US carrier group. Occupying Iran (and any country) is not easy, but beating it till it surrenders is very easy for the US. There is no non nuclear country that the US can't do this to.

Similarly, Iran stands no chance against Pakistan in a war. Iran's air force will likely be gone within a week or two. Pakistan will push a few kms deep into Iranian Balochistan. And then it'll be a stalemate.

If Iran tries acting retarded and launching thousands of ballistic missiles it will be met with nuclear retaliation, and what's left of Iran will end up surrendering like WWII Japan.

 

[Tornado23]

you forget that nearly 2/3rd of them was rendered inoperative by some misguided people who later learned the hard way what mistake they committed .
majority of the F-14 were sabotaged by USA contractors and trainers before leaving Iran, and it took us two years to fix the problem , also F-14 is not an ordinary plan , for each 8 hours of the flight it need nearly 24 hours of maintenance and before the revolution the maintenance were done by American not Iranian after the war our technicians had to learn how to maintain them, and not to mention the sanction stopped any needed part and equipment to reach Iran.
F5 an airplane that is blind 20km away and in its original form were only good foe dogfighting and probably some bombing , nowhere near the airplanes our adversary had , we wanted to change them with F-16 but the revolution closed that path indefinitely .and 20000 Iraqi best forces more than 30 days to take an empty city protected by less than 300 men and those 30 days gave us enough time to prepare the defense of Abadan and as a result Iraqi army besieged the city for two years and could not occupy Khorramshahr sister city , for the information Khorramshahr was a city the people went for weekends , Abadan was one they went for trade non of them had significant milltary presence to begin with .

if you knew the situation at start of the revolution and how Shahid Chamran secured Kurdistan you'd have not said that

The f14 tomcat was probably the best aircraft at that time considering its BVR ability in the form of the aim54 phoenix.

The f5 was a light fighter but was sill potent. The f4 again had BVR capability. What did iraq have? Mig 25 with r40s? Short range a2a weaponry?

Also what happened after the ir iq war idc about. Im only talking about the ir iq war. As for land taken both of you were terrible. You only had speed but lacked nearly everything else. Where as iraq had numbers and firepower but lacked speed. Fact of the matter was, both iran and iraq had crap militaries. Both of you were dumb o carry on the war. Both of you dumb to target each others civillians. The war in which so many 100s of thousands died in ended in a stalemate. Its not anything to celebrate in any way. Its shameful

''6000 arab volunteer'' fighting force did never realize as a fact on the ground. they did not engage against the US. In fact, most of the resistance that originated from Iraq against the US occupation were in the forms of Iranian made IEDS. US still has a lot of complaining to do about Iranian sponsored attacks on their troops which killed and maimed thousands of Americans.

Saddam's Iraq never used militia against US on a large, effective scale.

They did. Also my point is iraq tried to use guerilla warfare. But it still failed

''6000 arab volunteer'' fighting force did never realize as a fact on the ground. they did not engage against the US. In fact, most of the resistance that originated from Iraq against the US occupation were in the forms of Iranian made IEDS. US still has a lot of complaining to do about Iranian sponsored attacks on their troops which killed and maimed thousands of Americans.

Saddam's Iraq never used militia against US on a large, effective scale.

They did. Also my point is iraq tried to use guerilla warfare. But it still failed

 

[Zhukov]

3 brother exercise?

Can be considered brotherly engagement
,if brothers are in a fued for property Division

 

[Zhukov]

Because the war on terror barely touched Urban Punjab.

Are you from central punjab?
Remember the sucide bombings on daily basis all over?
Those days were like hell. 2006 to 2013.
Long load shedding (Unrelated to terorrism) Bombs blasting on daily basis. We as college students saw it first hand how it felt.
And 99% of these war lovers are those people who still have soft spot for extremist Jihadi nuts. Thr people who will take no time to hide behind religion to defend terrorism and extremism.
those who bore the brunt of war against terrorism and lost innocent reletives to these nuthead zealots never advocate war.
And these idiots apologrtics are everywhere from Karachi Quetta Islamabad to KPK.
Infact Army had to do majority of operation in KPK and Karachi to root out these Jihadis.
Dont blame central punjab alone. We equally got through every difficult time along with KPK and tribal areas. Donated for Displaced peoples, prayed for them, and Cried when they died.

Bhai In Azeri-Armanian war,we learnt many things.in this Azerbaijan- Iran war, we can learn even more.so let it happen. We can learn a lot from there.

Pakistan will not get involve so war will not come to us.They are not some superpowers that WW3 will start.so keep calm and let it happen may some new thing will emerge for us to learn.

A Pakistan Afghanistan war can be a tea time discussion. A Pakistan India war cannot.

Shear Size Influence and Power of Iran is too much to afford a war for countries in the region.
Firstly the destruction of region and societal fallout from any war involving iran.
Secondly Iran will be a hell for the region in both loser and victor form.
A lost irans means a MASSIVE power vaccum that will suck in every unwanted power and creat 100 times worst hell then daesh etc.
A victor Iran will bolster its confidence and make it even more redicle.

 

[Hack-Hook]

The f14 tomcat was probably the best aircraft at that time considering its BVR ability in the form of the aim54 phoenix.

The problem that exact BVR capability were sabotaged by American the aircraft could see the enemy more than two hundred km away but could not lock unto it.

The f5 was a light fighter but was sill potent. The f4 again had BVR capability. What did iraq have? Mig 25 with r40s? Short range a2a weaponry?

The f4 only had aim_9 tell you how much BVR capable it was and no f5 was not capable at all just look at how much of it lost during the war

Also what happened after the ir iq war idc about. Im only talking about the ir iq war. As for land taken both of you were terrible. You only had speed but lacked nearly everything else. Where as iraq had numbers and firepower but lacked speed. Fact of the matter was, both iran and iraq had crap militaries. Both of you were dumb o carry on the war. Both of you dumb to target each others civillians. The war in which so many 100s of thousands died in ended in a stalemate. Its not anything to celebrate in any way. Its shameful

And sorry for our dumbness but go and educate yourself about war of the cities it will tell you the only thing it achieved was that Iran begin it's missile program.

And about Iraqi air force it was consisted of 332 at the start of the war it went to more tan 1000 at the end of it it had mig 23 mig 25 su 20 su 22 mirage f1 were using R60 and R27r, magic missile now tell me which of them are inferior to f5 or what it can carry

 

[Tornado23]

The problem that exact BVR capability were sabotaged by American the aircraft could see the enemy more than two hundred km away but could not lock unto it.

The f4 only had aim_9 tell you how much BVR capable it was and no f5 was not capable at all just look at how much of it lost during the war

And sorry for our dumbness but go and educate yourself about war of the cities it will tell you the only thing it achieved was that Iran begin it's missile program.

And about Iraqi air force it was consisted of 332 at the start of the war it went to more tan 1000 at the end of it it had mig 23 mig 25 su 20 su 22 mirage f1 were using R60 and R27r, magic missile now tell me which of them are inferior to f5 or what it can carry

F14 had the aim54 with a 190km range

The f4 had aim7 sparrows with a 50km range making it BVR capable

The f5 was the only short straw with wvr weaponry only

If you think numbers mean everything then look at all the pak indo wars

 

[Zibago]

Azeri politicians said that Pakistan Army will wipe Iran out if they mess with us. I don't understand why politicians are so retarded to make such stuff. They should ask their friend Israel to help them with the mobilizations. Anyways, no need to create hype, Iranian deployments are part of military drill.

Why do we think that making war is a joke?

We would help them but outright invasion will require Iran to play really dirty with us