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Iranian Army Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is just 2.2 billion $

I think these are fake numbers
title is wrong, total sum is 41,093,688,100,000 tomans based on (1 dollar= 3500 tomans) which means
around $ 11.7 billion



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by adding Police forces, retirement sector, civil activities of armed forces, it would become 80,938,154,000,000 tomans equivalent to $ 23.1 billion.
 
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we want to evaluate the army's statues by comparing their next year's suggested budget with what they had this year.

So instead of comparing plans with plans, you want to compare plans with reality.

There will be changes in the budget for sure that will meet demand.

government prefers to increase the foreign ministry's budget by 40% rather than investing on our security

Assuming that 40% isn't made by more manipulation of figures, that does increase our security. Diplomacy is a form of soft power and soft power is a big part of hard power.

Of course I think Iran should increase its military spending to deter rapidly militarising regional enemies, but that doesn't mean I will obfuscate figures as protest.
 
So instead of comparing plans with plans, you want to compare plans with reality.

There will be changes in the budget for sure that will meet demand.



Assuming that 40% isn't made by more manipulation of figures, that does increase our security. Diplomacy is a form of soft power and soft power is a big part of hard power.

Of course I think Iran should increase its military spending to deter rapidly militarising regional enemies, but that doesn't mean I will obfuscate figures as protest.
Yeah, acquiring luxurious hotels helps our diplomats a lot (they can even bring their family to have absolute comfort!), like in JCPOA with the result of everything in return of nothing!


I don't need to manipulate anything, budget bill of 1396:
https://newsmedia.tasnimnews.com/Tasnim/Uploaded/Document/1395/09/14/13950914111649740936798.pdf
 
The issue is beyond JCPOA ... Islamic Republic is destroying our country in systematic manner ...
It's not Islamic Republic, but materialists and pro-west elements inside it who will sell their country (or mother) in a blink of eye.
 
I think these are fake numbers
the number isn't fake ....

we have :
1- The Army ( Artesh ) which has ( Army , AirForce , Navy and Anti Air Thread Departement )
2- IRGC
3- peuplotion force ( Bassij )
4- Defence Ministery ( which has to build new equipment and buy weapon for Army and IRGC )
5- Central Comanding Center

1$ ~= 42,000 Rial

The Army Budget is 97,080,866,000,000 Rial ,


97,080,866,000,000 Rial / 42,000 Rial ~= 2,311,449,191 $ ~= 2.31 Billion $


IRIGC Budget is 267,366,971,000,000 Rial ~= 6,365,880,261 $ ~= 6.366 billion $


Defense Ministry budget is 17,708,985,000,000 ~= 421,642,500 $ ~= 422 million $


The army barley can even pay his personnel salary with this budget and maintaining its old junks ( F4 fighter / flying coffin , M47 / practices target )

Defense ministry has to pay its personnel budget and then build new things ... IMO they won't be able show anything ...

IRGC ... its has to pay for its war and use 50% of its budget on governmental constructing project ....
 

1$ ~= 42,000 Rial

Lets just think about that. Our currency is weaker than afghanistan. AFGHANISTAN!. Is it the pro-west peoples fault!!!!????? No. Its our fault for stupid management, incompetence. Our government is so incompetent they don't even use highly qualified economists to run the countries wealth. What the hell


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به گزارش مشرق، حسن روحانی رئیس جمهور صبح امروز یکشنبه با حضور در صحن علنی مجلس، لایحه بودجه سال 97 کل کشور را تقدیم مجلس شورای اسلامی کرد.

رئیس مجلس شورای اسلامی نیز لایحه بودجه را برای بررسی بیشتر به کمیسیون تلفیق بودجه مجلس که متشکل از اعضای کمیسیون برنامه و بودجه و نمایندگان سایر کمیسیون‌های تخصصی مجلس است، می‌دهد و نمایندگان مجلس در کمیسیون‌های تخصصی 15 روز و در کمیسیون تلفیق نیز 15 روز فرصت دارند تا لایحه بودجه را بررسی کنند و پیشنهادات خود را به صحن علنی مجلس ارائه دهند.

پس از بحث و بررسی در مورد بخش‌های مختلف لایحه بودجه، کمیسیون تلفیق، لایحه بودجه را برای تصویب به صحن علنی مجلس ارائه می‌کند که در ابتدا کلیات لایحه بودجه مطرح، و پس از تصویب آن درآمدها و مصارف دولت مشخص می‌شود و در نهایت لایحه بودجه به تصویب مجلس می‌رسد.

یکی مهمترین بخش های لایحه بودجه سال 97 کل کشور، بودجه نیروهای مسلح است. بودجه نیروهای مسلح ذیل بودجه وزارت دفاع تعریف می‌شود. در ذیل به تفکیک بودجه پیشنهادی دولت برای سال 97 را مشاهده کنید.

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توضیح جدول: ارقام به میلیون ریال هستند

نکته قابل توجه اینکه، معمولا دولت یک بودجه جداگانه نیز برای تقویت بنیه دفاعی درنظر می‌گیرد و در یک ردیف جداگانه و غیر از این بودجه نیروهای مسلح، پیش بینی و در لایحه می‌آورد.


If Islamic Republic currency continue its fall , then the army budget will become less than 2 billion dollar ...

side note : I sincerely ask other Iranian members to just stay quite for next 5 years ...

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/807345/بودجه-پیشنهادی-دولت-برای-ارگان-های-نظامی-جدول

IRGC is getting a budget of $6.6 Billion USD which is about what they got last year + IRGC own yearly revenue is higher than that so they'll be fine!

But Artesh also got only $2Billion USD last year too

And a $2Billion USD budget for the Artesh is the cost of Paychecks, Maintenance, Fuel, Food, training, uniforms.... nothing more!
So something doesn't make sense!!!

And all MOD companies can't run off of $450 Million USD it's just not enough and there are too many MOD companies last year the MOD had a budget of ~$1Billion USD about the same the year before that

Rohani Administration is proving to be a disaster for the Artesh and Iran's defense & space industry!
 
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IRGC is getting a budget of $6.6 Billion USD which is about what they got last year + IRGC own yearly revenue is higher than that so they'll be fine!

But Artesh also got only $2Billion USD last year too

And a $2Billion USD budget for the Artesh is the cost of Paychecks, Maintenance, Fuel, Food, training, uniforms.... nothing more!
So something doesn't make sense!!!

And all MOD companies can't run off of $450 Million USD it's just not enough and there are too many MOD companies last year the MOD had a budget of ~$1Billion USD about the same the year before that

Rohani Administration is proving to be a disaster for the Artesh and Iran's defense & space industry!

Theirs simply no way we'll see any karrars or any modernization or procurement from the artesh with this budget level. Simply impossible with a 500,000 manned force. Unless sepah foots the bill which means karrars would go to IRGC-GF instead.

With Sepahs Revenue + budget and only 150,000 manned personnel we should be expecting them to have the same level of funds available to them as Western European militaries
 
Theirs simply no way we'll see any karrars or any modernization or procurement from the artesh with this budget level. Simply impossible with a 500,000 manned force. Unless sepah foots the bill which means karrars would go to IRGC-GF instead.

With Sepahs Revenue + budget and only 150,000 manned personnel we should be expecting them to have the same level of funds available to them as Western European militaries

Yea I would say the Karrar for now will strictly be for the IRGC & after the IRGC deliveries are complete maybe then they'll give funding to the Artesh to buy some...

Sepah has it's own revenue so they make money on top of what the government gives them & they make so much money that they can afford to put more than the $6Billion of what the government gives them on weapons acquisition alone

And they don't have a lot of fighter jet's to fuel and repair or a lot of large ships and Subs to fuel and repair nor a large force to pay paychecks for so their funding is adequate but ONLY because they make their own money and thank god they do or else we would be in a lot of trouble!

Army Ground forces has 350,000 personal
Air Force has ~40,000
Navy has ~20,000
Air Defense ~15,000

So a total of 425,000 personal of which ~225,000 are conscripts
Regardless, if they were to spend an average of $500 a month per solder for Paychecks, food, fuel for transport, housing, uniforms, standard issued guns, training, bullets and other equipment used in training, health care,...
even divided on a average cost of $500 per month per solder per year the cost will come out to $2.5 Billion USD per year!

So just trying to maintain your own current equipment with that much money is practically impossible let alone trying to build or buy new equipment!

And $450 Million USD is just not enough to fund even the paychecks of MOD companies!
It's just not enough to fund various MOD electronic companies, DIO, SAHA, HESA, PANHA, Qods Aviation, ISOICO and various other companies that fall under the MOD

So any talk about Iran developing a new Jet engine, a new fighter jet, finishing the halls and decks of ships that they built, taking the Bavar 373 into production,.... with half of last years budget is just NOT POSSIBLE!
 
So any talk about Iran developing a new Jet engine, a new fighter jet, finishing the halls and decks of ships that they built, taking the Bavar 373 into production,.... with half of last years budget is just NOT POSSIBLE!

Simply matter of fact that only sepah can afford to do the r&d and production with a respectable time frame and production rate. Anything Artesh wants to do will require support for sepah. Bavar would got to Sepah Aerospace forces first, karrar to IRGC-GF etc...

Its a pretty bad situation that Artesh is dirt poor. They really need to step up and demand more. The only branch I've seen to take significant strides is Sardar Ismali of the air defense forces. Other than that everything else seems pretty poor.
 

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