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Iran Unveils New Catamaran Capable Of Carrying Helicopters

Its most likely for experiment. The first use that came into mind when I saw this was covert insertion and extraction of Special forces. the Helipad and RHIBs support that.
I wonder if it could carry a SDV
Apparently it carries 1 small Zodiac as workboat: there is not visible evidence of multiple or larger RHIBs carried, nor of some devices to assist them entering and leaving the water (e.g. a ramp, a vertical hoist, or additional cranes).

It's wave piercing boat hall not SWATH it's basically a wave piercing version of the SWATH

Cat v. Swath
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Clearly a catamaran.
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Relative stability (rolling)
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This is hybrid use of a SWATH ship.
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Apparently it carries 1 small Zodiac as workboat: there is not visible evidence of multiple or larger RHIBs carried, nor of some devices to assist them entering and leaving the water (e.g. a ramp, a vertical hoist, or additional cranes).



Cat v. Swath
220px-SWATH_waterline.svg.png


Clearly a catamaran.
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Relative stability (rolling)
c306f8fd5ce06c08053fdc31e5616cfa6cc42e0f.jpg


This is hybrid use of a SWATH ship.
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Of all that BS this is the most accurate pic you have

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SWATH has a round submerged submarine shaped hall at the bottom

Catamarans come in different forms SWATH is one of the catamaran forms

Iran's ship doesn't have a round sub shaped hall it it's wave piercing

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From your own loved wiki

Its most likely for experiment. The first use that came into mind when I saw this was covert insertion and extraction of Special forces. the Helipad and RHIBs support that.
I wonder if it could carry a SDV

It's not experimental in the past 10 years or so Iran has so far built a total of 5 of these ships and has purchased 1
so far 3 are civilian and 3 for the IRGC Navy this one is just the largest and 1st in it's class

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Apparently it carries 1 small Zodiac as workboat: there is not visible evidence of multiple or larger RHIBs carried, nor of some devices to assist them entering and leaving the water (e.g. a ramp, a vertical hoist, or additional cranes).



Cat v. Swath
220px-SWATH_waterline.svg.png


Clearly a catamaran.
upload_2016-9-13_9-58-27-png.333961


Relative stability (rolling)
c306f8fd5ce06c08053fdc31e5616cfa6cc42e0f.jpg


This is hybrid use of a SWATH ship.
danish1-jpg.67996

danish2-jpg.67997


SWATH ships



If it's round submerged submarine shaped it's standard SWATH




If it's wave piercing version of the SWATH it looks like this

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uss independence uses a moderation of the two I suspect so they can fit a sonar and a heavier engine

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Iran's MDF Gas turbine should do nicely add a generation and you can have a mixture of Gas, Electric and Diesel

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Ok, so what is the intended purpuse/use of this craft?

Clearly, it can carry personnel. Clearly, it can land a Bell 206 Jetranger or equivalent 1.5 ton helicopter. Perhaps it can also handle a heavier Bell 204/205/UH-1. However:
-There is no 0-level main deck > what is the purpose of having so much open space between the hulls. Can it e.g. launch RIBs from the next up deck level? I see no shipboats anywhere else. So, without some boat, it is fully dependent on the helicopter for the movement over personnel while at sea (unless coming alongside)
-There are no visible weapons installations, nor does there seem to be space reserved for any. It doesn't have any other sensors than navigation radar.

Is this 'just' a trial or experimental or research vessel?

Far all we know it can covertly drop advanced Iranian mines (Iran purchased externally advanced mines from china) or Sensors beyond the Persian Gulf without detection....

They can also build a version that can covertly replenish Iranian midget subs, small missile boats...

Fact is they know in advance exactly what they planned to do with it and they are not obligated to share any information with anyone
 
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Of all that BS this is the most accurate pic you have
Uhm, you want to start measuring your d**k .... again?
I don't know why, but anything I post is apparently offensive to you. As I suggested before, remove chip from shoulder.
Whoe said I was adressing you and who says I didn't deliberately choose simple illustrations? I think it very well helps explain the confusion over SWATH, which the Iranian ship is obviously not. Nonetheless you feel the need to restate what was already stated and pretend to be posting something new.

SWATH has a round submerged submarine shaped hall at the bottom
Did I claim or did the image I posted suggest otherwise?

Catamarans come in different forms SWATH is one of the catamaran forms
Was this a point of contention?

If it's wave piercing version of the SWATH it looks like this

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The first two pics show HMAS Jervis Bay (AKR 45), a wave piercing catamaran that was operated by the Royal Australian Navy (RAN) for some time (10 June 1999 to 11 May 2001), under a two-year bareboat charter signed in May 1999. Today, She is now owned by Condor Ferries and is named HSC Condor Rapide, providing English Channel ferry services (St Malo-Channel Islands). This and e.g. the USN's HSV-X1 and HSV-2 are not SWATH ships.

uss independence uses a moderation of the two I suspect
The hull design for the Independence class evolved from an Austal project to design a 40 knot cruise ship. That hull design evolved into a high-speed trimaran ferry called HSC Benchijigua Express. A trimaran is a multihull boat that comprises a main hull and two smaller outrigger hulls (or "floats") which are attached to the main hull. This ferry is the second-longest trimaran in the world, less than a metre shy of the Independence class littoral combat ship, which was in effect based on Benchijigua Express's design.
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Iran's ship doesn't have a round sub shaped hall it it's wave piercing

A Small Waterplane Area Twin Hull, better known by the acronym SWATH, is a twin-hull ship design that minimizes hull cross section area at the sea's surface. Minimizing the ship's volume near the surface area of the sea, where wave energy is located, maximizes a vessel's stability, even in high seas and at high speeds. The bulk of the displacement necessary to keep the ship afloat is located beneath the waves, where it is less affected by wave action.

It clearly is not a SWATH ship as its has hulls and these are not submerged (and do not appear of a design that would lead one to believe that they could submerge, as it the case with some SWATH ships).

This is a SWATH ship (USNS Sea Slice)
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And this is how it sits in the water
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From your own loved wiki
Given what you've posted on Wiki, you can't use it without damaging your own credibility. A problem I don't have.

@ALL: For a nice description of various hull forms, see https://www.aimu.org/aimupapers/hsc.pdf
High Speed Craft, Prepared by: American Institute of Marine UnderwritersTechnical Services Committee

USN SWATH: T-AGOS
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SWATH according to http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4500&tid=600&ct=4

FSF-1 Sea Fighter
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Ship Type: Aluminum-hulled, wave-piercing catamaran.
According to : http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&tid=1200&ct=4

Far all we know it can covertly drop advanced Iranian mines (Iran purchased externally advanced mines from china) or Sensors beyond the Persian Gulf without detection....

They can also build a version that can covertly replenish Iranian midget subs, small missile boats...

Fact is they know in advance exactly what they planned to do with it and they are not obligated to share any information with anyone
Of course that should not preclude anyone with half a brain from using that brain to try and figure out what it's intended purpose is....

The twin hull design of a catamaran produces a very stable platform, which makes it particularly suitable for use in fast ferries or similar roles. Wave piercing catamarans have excellent exposed water performance. This thing is fitted with a helicopter deck which aparently is a big deal (considering the demonstration).
 
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Replied the same comment for the 3rd time now. It seems this Hasbara bot just malfunctioned :lol:

Americans shooting down an Iranian plane in 80's, vs Israel getting raped in an actual war. Look at your pathetic soldiers:

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Remember, you're comparing an incident which happened in the 80's whereas I am actually talking about an actual war you were against Hezbollah and they raped you.

This is what we do to your American masters today:

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Looking at the repetitive comments, I think you are arguing with a bot. The fact that nobody has dared to do anything stupid against Iran for the past 15 years says it all. Let it be.
 
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@waz @mods Please delete all posts from #84 on: off topic + pussy fight between two little girls.
It spoils the thread.
 
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big talk as usual big mouth .
what about new front which undergoing in Golan ??
did all of Israeli air strike made any difference ?? has Golan today is not new front for our............ for next war ??

you see you can talk big here and show few air strike but that has not changed anything in Golan on ground . as we speak new groups and equtments are been station in there .

politically and militarily so far big ZERO big mouth . whether you or Netanyahu like or not that new front is in making, my son

the chess pieces are coming into place

@yavar

Because you sayd something about activities in Golan, is it this?


"#Israel/i Military has spotted MASSIVE #Hezbollah & #Syria/n Army reinforcements in #Quneitra Governorate, near the occupied #Golan."
 
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Information Warfare: Iran Makes Magic Work

September 26, 2016: In early September Iran held another media event to cheer up Iranians and amuse most foreigners. As usual it was announced, with great fanfare and lots of pictures, the newest Iranian warship, the Shahid Nazeri. What was displayed was a 60 meter (180 feet) long catamaran with a small helicopter pad which was shown holding a light (under two ton) civilian helicopter. There were no visible weapons on the helicopter or the ship. The Iranians said Shahid Nazeri had a top speed of 50 kilometers an hour and could carry about a hundred passengers and crew. This was clearly a civilian design painted and presented as an unarmed warship.

A real warship of this type and design was recently (2014) put into service by Taiwan Called a Tuo Chiang class corvette it is a twin hull (catamaran) design that displaces 560 tons, is 60.4 meters long and has a top speed of 80 kilometers an hour. The crew of 41 operates several weapons systems, including 16 anti-ship missiles (8 each of Hsiung-feng 2 and 3 models) a 76mm cannon, a 20mm anti-missile autocannon, six torpedo tubes and four 12.7mm machine-guns. The Hsiung-feng 3 is described in Taiwan as a “carrier killer.”

How do we know Shahid Nazeri was purely propaganda? We know it because the Iranians have become obsessed with these "propaganda weapons" and announcing them regularly for decades. This is because the government found they could get away with just hacking something together from an existing Russian or American system and proclaim it to be a breakthrough weapon "designed and manufactured in Iran." It's all rather pathetic, and it all began during the 1980s, when Iran and Iraq were fighting a nasty war. Some of the hacks worked, after a fashion. Iran created a longer range SCUD missile by the simple expedient of lengthening the missile with a larger fuel tank. This changed the flight characteristics of the missile but since these things were being fired at city size (as in Baghdad) targets, it didn't matter during the 1980s war with Iraq. Actually, the Iranians didn't really need the longer range missiles because Baghdad was pretty close to the Iranian border. Iran actually got the technology for these SCUD mods from North Korea but Iranian press releases always touted the achievement as being the work of Iranian scientists and engineers.

The Shahid Nazeri was not the first such propaganda weapon Iran presented this year. On August 1st they announced a number of new weapons, including a locally made UAV equipped with a communications jammer. A number of other new or improved weapons were showcased. One thing they all had in common was that none of them were new (airborne communications jammers go back to the early 1940s) and none of the more interesting ones will ever be seen in service, much less offered for export. These announcements are mainly for internal consumption. They are, in short, propaganda.

Every year the Iranian media features several new weapons described as locally designed and produced. This is to improve morale among a population that knows the country has been under an international arms embargo since the 1980s and not really able to compete when it comes to new technology developments. All of this new stuff was fluff, with a bit of recycled reality to back it up. If you go back and look at the many Iranian announcements of newly developed, high tech weapons, all you find is a photo op for a prototype. Production versions of these weapons rarely show up. It’s all feel-good propaganda for the religious dictatorship that runs Iran and its supporters.

After 2003 the announcements became more ambitious, apparently in response to the impressive American weapons being used next door in Iraq and Afghanistan. Thus by 2013 the Iranian Air Force announced that it had begun “mass production” of a new jet fighter, one that was designed and manufactured in Iran. This, according to the air force commander, means that Iran does not have to rely on foreign suppliers (all of whom are intimidated by international arms sanctions imposed on Iran). This is all a bit of dark humor because the aircraft in question was apparently the Saeqeh jet fighter. In 2012 it had been announced that three more of these had been produced and that fifteen had been delivered to the Iranian Air Force. In 2011, Iran announced that they had put into service their first squadron of twelve Saeqeh. It was in 2006 that Iran first displayed a modified American F-5 fighter and proclaimed the new "Saeqeh" as similar to the American F-18 jet fighter. Iran is apparently producing a clone of the half century old F-5 design, not a rival for the F-18. Their local manufacturing and international smuggling capabilities are certainly up to the task of obtaining the components needed for this. But all this is mainly a publicity stunt to reassure Iranians that, despite decades of international arms embargoes, Iran still has weapons that can defend the country.

This is not the first time Iran has run a stunt like this. But even with a redesigned tail and better electronics, the 1960s era F-5 is still a low cost and low performance aircraft. The Saeqeh is not the first Iranian attempt to rebuild F-5s. In the 1990s, they built a clone of the F-5E, calling it the Azarakhsh. There were apparently four of these in service at one time and further modifications of F-5 airframes produced the Saeqeh.

The Iranians had dozens of damaged F-5s from their war with Iraq, along with many more elderly F-5s that are un-flyable or barely so. In the late 1970s Iran had nearly 300 F-5 aircraft but many were destroyed in combat with Iraq during the 1980s, or due to accidents, and most of the remainder just wore out.

The F-5E, the most recent F-5 model the Iranians had when the Islamic revolution took over in 1979, is an 11 ton aircraft, with a max speed of 1,700 kilometers an hour, and a range of some 1,400 kilometers. It was armed with 2 20mm cannon and could carry about 3 tons of missiles and bombs. The Iranians have taken the basic F-5 frame and rebuilt it to hold 2 Russian engines. The Chinese did the same thing with the MiG-21 and produced the J-8 (a twin engine MiG-21) that turned out to be not worth the effort.

Although the Iranians are using Russian components (if only because these are better than Chinese ones), they probably had technical assistance (for a price) from China. The Chinese have a lot of experience reverse engineering Russian warplanes and developing variations. The Chinese are getting away from that because they finally realized that all they ended up with was a lot of crap fighters. Now they are building a new air force with expensive, and high tech, fighters imported from Russia or built under license (or just copied illegally).

Iranian weapon fantasies reached their peak in early 2013 with the announcement that they had developed a stealth fighter, the Qaher 313. It showed photos of a single engine fighter with some curious (to aeronautical engineers) features. The air intakes were too small, the airframe was similar to older (unsuccessful) American experimental designs, and the cockpit controls were the same used in one and two engine propeller driven aircraft. There was avideo of the Qaher 313 in flight but nothing showing it landing or taking off. Engineers have concluded that the Qaher 313 is a crude fake and that the aircraft seen in flight was a small remote controlled model of the larger aircraft shown in a hangar. A deception like this is nothing new for Iran. In fact, this sort of thing has become a staple of Iranian media. The Qaher 313 is the most ambitious fake so far. Stealth tech is not something you can recycle from decades old gear, nor is it something you can easily deceive the experts with.

Now that the sanctions are being lifted Iran will be under pressure (internal and external) to get some of these wonder weapons into use and offer them for export. It will be interesting to see how the Iranians handle that.
 
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Information Warfare: Iran Makes Magic Work

September 26, 2016: In early September Iran held another media event to cheer up Iranians and amuse most foreigners. As usual it was announced, with great fanfare and lots of pictures, the newest Iranian warship, the Shahid Nazeri. What was displayed was a 60 meter (180 feet) long catamaran with a small helicopter pad which was shown holding a light (under two ton) civilian helicopter. There were no visible weapons on the helicopter or the ship. The Iranians said Shahid Nazeri had a top speed of 50 kilometers an hour and could carry about a hundred passengers and crew. This was clearly a civilian design painted and presented as an unarmed warship.

A real warship of this type and design was recently (2014) put into service by Taiwan Called a Tuo Chiang class corvette it is a twin hull (catamaran) design that displaces 560 tons, is 60.4 meters long and has a top speed of 80 kilometers an hour. The crew of 41 operates several weapons systems, including 16 anti-ship missiles (8 each of Hsiung-feng 2 and 3 models) a 76mm cannon, a 20mm anti-missile autocannon, six torpedo tubes and four 12.7mm machine-guns. The Hsiung-feng 3 is described in Taiwan as a “carrier killer.”

How do we know Shahid Nazeri was purely propaganda? We know it because the Iranians have become obsessed with these "propaganda weapons" and announcing them regularly for decades. This is because the government found they could get away with just hacking something together from an existing Russian or American system and proclaim it to be a breakthrough weapon "designed and manufactured in Iran." It's all rather pathetic, and it all began during the 1980s, when Iran and Iraq were fighting a nasty war. Some of the hacks worked, after a fashion. Iran created a longer range SCUD missile by the simple expedient of lengthening the missile with a larger fuel tank. This changed the flight characteristics of the missile but since these things were being fired at city size (as in Baghdad) targets, it didn't matter during the 1980s war with Iraq. Actually, the Iranians didn't really need the longer range missiles because Baghdad was pretty close to the Iranian border. Iran actually got the technology for these SCUD mods from North Korea but Iranian press releases always touted the achievement as being the work of Iranian scientists and engineers.

The Shahid Nazeri was not the first such propaganda weapon Iran presented this year. On August 1st they announced a number of new weapons, including a locally made UAV equipped with a communications jammer. A number of other new or improved weapons were showcased. One thing they all had in common was that none of them were new (airborne communications jammers go back to the early 1940s) and none of the more interesting ones will ever be seen in service, much less offered for export. These announcements are mainly for internal consumption. They are, in short, propaganda.

Every year the Iranian media features several new weapons described as locally designed and produced. This is to improve morale among a population that knows the country has been under an international arms embargo since the 1980s and not really able to compete when it comes to new technology developments. All of this new stuff was fluff, with a bit of recycled reality to back it up. If you go back and look at the many Iranian announcements of newly developed, high tech weapons, all you find is a photo op for a prototype. Production versions of these weapons rarely show up. It’s all feel-good propaganda for the religious dictatorship that runs Iran and its supporters.

After 2003 the announcements became more ambitious, apparently in response to the impressive American weapons being used next door in Iraq and Afghanistan. Thus by 2013 the Iranian Air Force announced that it had begun “mass production” of a new jet fighter, one that was designed and manufactured in Iran. This, according to the air force commander, means that Iran does not have to rely on foreign suppliers (all of whom are intimidated by international arms sanctions imposed on Iran). This is all a bit of dark humor because the aircraft in question was apparently the Saeqeh jet fighter. In 2012 it had been announced that three more of these had been produced and that fifteen had been delivered to the Iranian Air Force. In 2011, Iran announced that they had put into service their first squadron of twelve Saeqeh. It was in 2006 that Iran first displayed a modified American F-5 fighter and proclaimed the new "Saeqeh" as similar to the American F-18 jet fighter. Iran is apparently producing a clone of the half century old F-5 design, not a rival for the F-18. Their local manufacturing and international smuggling capabilities are certainly up to the task of obtaining the components needed for this. But all this is mainly a publicity stunt to reassure Iranians that, despite decades of international arms embargoes, Iran still has weapons that can defend the country.

This is not the first time Iran has run a stunt like this. But even with a redesigned tail and better electronics, the 1960s era F-5 is still a low cost and low performance aircraft. The Saeqeh is not the first Iranian attempt to rebuild F-5s. In the 1990s, they built a clone of the F-5E, calling it the Azarakhsh. There were apparently four of these in service at one time and further modifications of F-5 airframes produced the Saeqeh.

The Iranians had dozens of damaged F-5s from their war with Iraq, along with many more elderly F-5s that are un-flyable or barely so. In the late 1970s Iran had nearly 300 F-5 aircraft but many were destroyed in combat with Iraq during the 1980s, or due to accidents, and most of the remainder just wore out.

The F-5E, the most recent F-5 model the Iranians had when the Islamic revolution took over in 1979, is an 11 ton aircraft, with a max speed of 1,700 kilometers an hour, and a range of some 1,400 kilometers. It was armed with 2 20mm cannon and could carry about 3 tons of missiles and bombs. The Iranians have taken the basic F-5 frame and rebuilt it to hold 2 Russian engines. The Chinese did the same thing with the MiG-21 and produced the J-8 (a twin engine MiG-21) that turned out to be not worth the effort.

Although the Iranians are using Russian components (if only because these are better than Chinese ones), they probably had technical assistance (for a price) from China. The Chinese have a lot of experience reverse engineering Russian warplanes and developing variations. The Chinese are getting away from that because they finally realized that all they ended up with was a lot of crap fighters. Now they are building a new air force with expensive, and high tech, fighters imported from Russia or built under license (or just copied illegally).

Iranian weapon fantasies reached their peak in early 2013 with the announcement that they had developed a stealth fighter, the Qaher 313. It showed photos of a single engine fighter with some curious (to aeronautical engineers) features. The air intakes were too small, the airframe was similar to older (unsuccessful) American experimental designs, and the cockpit controls were the same used in one and two engine propeller driven aircraft. There was avideo of the Qaher 313 in flight but nothing showing it landing or taking off. Engineers have concluded that the Qaher 313 is a crude fake and that the aircraft seen in flight was a small remote controlled model of the larger aircraft shown in a hangar. A deception like this is nothing new for Iran. In fact, this sort of thing has become a staple of Iranian media. The Qaher 313 is the most ambitious fake so far. Stealth tech is not something you can recycle from decades old gear, nor is it something you can easily deceive the experts with.

Now that the sanctions are being lifted Iran will be under pressure (internal and external) to get some of these wonder weapons into use and offer them for export. It will be interesting to see how the Iranians handle that.

I never read more nonsense in my life. I am not even going to address all the retarded claims made in the entire article. But this retard seemed to miss the point that the Nazir catamaran was stated to be mostly for experience to help build the more heavier 3000 ton ship. He does not talk about pint point Iranian missile being built today but instead talks about scuds Iran made in 80's :lol: This pretending to be blind attitude tells you this moron has some deeper problem with Iran.

It seemed the article was written by a 12 year old buthurt zionist.
 
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Now that the sanctions are being lifted Iran will be under pressure (internal and external) to get some of these wonder weapons into use and offer them for export. It will be interesting to see how the Iranians handle that.

Put to use?? What does this author mean? Does he/she mean they should start a war and then show the application of their weapons?

And, Iran can't export weapons due to the UN resolutions that still are in place.

On the other hand, it was announced that the Catamaran was only an early prototype. The one coming later and is the one that should be considered an actual military equipment is larger and has higher speed.

Some of these authors better do some basic research before starting to write.
 
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unable to bring even one single link to back their lies about Iran.
This is what happens when A Zionist retard quotes another Zionist retard.
 
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