Iran unveils hypersonic weapon 'Fattah'

[Foinikas]

In terms of UAVs, there are two main reasons why Iran excels. 1) It was actually one of he first/the first nation to use UCAVS all the way back on the 80s in the Iran-Iraq war. It was a relatively crude system, but it showed you even from back then Iran had unmanned systems in mind. 2) Access to Americans UAVs like RQ-170 helped push Iran's technology in this sector by many years. Not sure which Israeli UAVs you're thinking of? As for China, Iran has never used any UAVs from China.

I think the UCAV and loitering munitions doctrine suits Iran because it can easily make a lot of them and it can have a big number of users for them.

 

[Philosopher]

Russia gave it to you bcz they were losing in Ukraine and Iranian drones really helped them. They were simply desperate to turn the tide of the war. They simply couldn't produce huge no of kamikaze drones in such a short time.

Bro, these technologies are too strategic for these things. They're even more sensitive than jet engines. Minus nuclear weapon technology, there is currenly no other technology more strategic than these. Iran is getting Su-35 from them, if Iran is to get any sort of TOT, it will be in this sector.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Now you are questioning your own country's capability? You are a toxic person full of conspiracy theories, are not you?

I am a realist not a fanboy like you.
Yes, I am accepting the reality that Pakistan is in no position to develop hypersonics as we speak.

 

[shadihassan28]

Last time I checked,your greatest military vehicle "export" was the Safir.

Where are the fighter jets? The tanks? the IFVs and the helicopters?

Only some B-movie rate prototypes and a lot of propaganda.

Iran makes ballistic missiles and good clones of ATGMs and UAVs. The rest are propaganda for the masses.

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Does this fly with batteries?

What happened to Karrar? Where's your 5th generation stealth fighter?

What's this?

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Are you kidding me?

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Future Generation Tank?

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What happened to the Abrams copy Zulfiqar?

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To be fair most items you have listed are from a decade or longer they have gone a long way and a lot more professional.

 

[LeGenD]

I don't follow the Ukraine war, so maybe it is a stupid question, but is there actually any evidence that Ukraine shot down the Kinzhal?

Yes.

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The painful part is :

It cannot shot down by enemies for decades

And it can arm with a tactical nuclear warhead in future (my opinion)

You want to find out the hard way like Russians?

Ukraine and the Kinzhal: Don’t believe the hypersonic hype

Reporting of Ukraine’s shootdown of Russian hypersonics tells only a partial truth. Russian hypersonic missiles do not yet pose the dire threat to Western interests.

www.brookings.edu

Russian hypersonic missile scientists arrested on treason charges

The Kremlin said Wednesday that three scientists face “very serious accusations” after a rare public outcry that comes as Ukraine claimed it had shot many of the missiles down.

www.nbcnews.com

As pointed out in here, Allah Almighty dislikes arrogance.

 

[Foinikas]

Funny coming from a Greek. Nearly your entire military equipment is imported from US and other major tech producers. You couldn’t even keep your finances in order and went bankrupt and had to be bailed out by other EU countries.

Greece doesn't have the oil and population Iran has.

Your military routinely get embarrassed by the Turks military.

I don't think so. At least our military doesn't get bombed every week by Israel in Syria.

You want Iran in the span of 30 years to build every single military product on face of the earth (fighter jets, tanks, BMs, precise guided munitions, navy ships, drones, air defense systems, etc) from A to Z (which only 3 countries on the planet even do) while being under the worst sanctions regime devised by US Treasury?

No of course not. I don't and I am not expecting it. I simply said Iran's way better at making ballistic missiles and some of you guys went nuts,saying that Iran makes everything.

What is Greece known for other than an overrated sandwich? (gyro)

In modern history? Since ancient times? In modern history about military equipment? What?

Iran already build air defense systems, missiles, navy ships, submarines, drones, missiles (both cruise, BM, and glide), and much much more on a military budget of less than 20B while China is at 150B+ and US at 800B+ and Russia at 60B+

Wow then you're a superpower like @MMM-E 's fantasy version of Turkey.

So yes modernization takes time when you are on massive sanctions and arms control bans. Iran cannot afford to spend a ton of its GDP on its military or get donated equipment from NATO like some countries.

Don't get defensive. I make a comment about Iran making good missiles,when everything else is reverse-engineered copies and you guys go nuts.

To be fair most items you have listed are from a decade or longer they have gone a long way and a lot more professional.

That is true,but I can't listen to stuff like "Iran makes everything" and expect me to believe it's top quality.

 

[Philosopher]

I think the UCAV and loitering munitions doctrine suits Iran because it can easily make a lot of them and it can have a big number of users for them.

Power in numbers bro. These UAVs, cruise missiles etc are developed in such a way by Iran to minimise their cost to allow swarm capabilities. It's because of these sort of capabilities than Iran obtained deterrence. This capability has given Iran an overmatch capability. Read what American General Mckenzie said:

Tehran has achieved what McKenzie calls “overmatch”—a level of capability in which a country has weaponry that makes it extremely difficult to check or defeat. “Iran’s strategic capacity is now enormous,” McKenzie said. “They’ve got overmatch in the theatre—the ability to overwhelm.”

The Looming Threat of a Nuclear Crisis with Iran

The Biden Administration faces a potential confrontation with a longtime rival that is better armed and more hard-line than at any time in its modern history.

www.newyorker.com

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1666160449987944448

https://twitter.com/x/status/1666160454316486658

 

[Foinikas]

Power in numbers bro. These UAVs, cruise missiles etc are developed in such a way by Iran to minimise their cost to allow swarm capabilities. It's because of these sort of capabilities than Iran obtained deterrence. This capability has given Iran an overmatch capability. Read what American General Mckenzie said:

The Looming Threat of a Nuclear Crisis with Iran

The Biden Administration faces a potential confrontation with a longtime rival that is better armed and more hard-line than at any time in its modern history.

www.newyorker.com

This doctrine really suits Iran. Cheap drones by the thousands.

 

[Philosopher]

This doctrine really suits Iran. Cheap drones by the thousands.

Yes, and not just UAVs but ballistic, HGV & cruise missiles:

Swarm all the way!

 

[Blue In Green]

Yes, and not just UAVs but ballistic, HGV & cruise missiles:

Swarm all the way!

One could just imagine the chaos of a FATTAH MLBM system. Would absolutely eclipse any ABM system on the planet!

Current Iranian planning regarding missiles and drones is the correct answer to regional security concerns.

IRGC has done groundbreaking work!

 

[DoubleYouSee]

a good head up about hypersonic missiles

 

[Philosopher]

One could just imagine the chaos of a FATTAH MLBM system. Would absolutely eclipse any ABM system on the planet!

Current Iranian planning regarding missiles and drones is the correct answer to regional security concerns.

IRGC has done groundbreaking work!

Currently there is no air defence anywhere on this plant that could handle even a fraction of this capability. These systems like Fattah, Kharomshahr-4 individually are extremely hard to deal with, when you combined them together with other assets like Shaheds/cruise missiles and you remember they will be used in a swarm/mass strike manner then it foolish to even think you can stop them. Even if the technology existed today to stop them, it would be economically suicidcal given the number of air defence systems you'd need to achieve it. In reality, you won' see a proper counter to these systems in the next 10 years at least and that's me being generous. The issue you have is even on paper it's extremely hard to find a way to realistically deal with the hypersonic manoeuvring systems, never-mind in practise.

Iran is not just sitting and watching, this is just the begining. Just imagine the sort of systems Iran will be fielding in the next 10 years.

 

[Xerxes22]

Long live the Islamic Republic. May the Persians reclaim their rightful place on the top stage of the Globe. I have always believed it was its true destiny.

Congratulations to the Iranian Nation.

 

[James David]

When will that be? August - September 2157? You guys get real dude. You don't have what it takes to built j@ckSh!t. Why not just make peace to dudes like us and let's make money instead?

This fighter will be unveiled in August-September as a UCAV