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Iran still coy on Turkey's overtures

By Kaveh L Afrasiabi

CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts - Despite a strong personal pitch by the visiting Turkish premier last week to hold the next round of Iran nuclear talks in Istanbul, Tehran is still ambivalent and may opt for an alternative venue.

Although the talks are tentatively scheduled for mid-April, as the time of writing there has been no official announcement regarding the venue, even though Iran's Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi, in his meeting with Recep Tayyip Erdogan expressed his personal view that Istanbul was "the best place" to hold the multilateral talks between Iran and the "Iran Six" nations (UN Security Council's permanent five - the United States, France, the United Kingdom, Russia and China - plus Germany).

The fact that Erdogan's trip was followed by Turkey's announcement that it was complying with Western energy sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program and was thus reducing its oil imports from Iran by 20%, coinciding with opposite expressions by countries such as China and Pakistan, has certainly added to Iran's ambivalence.

This is not to mention Iran's misgivings about Turkey's anti-Damascus stance, the threat of military action in Syria together with North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces, as well as Turkey's embrace of an anti-Iran radar system, all of which have inevitably introduced uncomfortable thorns in Iran-Turkey relations.
As a result, no matter Erdogan's latest heroics regarding Israel's nuclear arsenal and his expression of support for Iran's civilian nuclear program, the political apprehensions and concerns about Turkey's regional intentions are becoming cemented in Iran. Even if Tehran agrees to hold the talks in Istanbul, this would be an uncomfortable decision taken with a good deal of reluctance.

By holding the Iran talks, Turkey seeks to replicate its efforts in the Syrian crisis, where it plays host to the "Friends of Syria" international group opposed to the year-long suppression of protest by President Bashar al-Assad. In it most recent meeting, representatives of the 70-plus nations comprising the group recognized the Syrian National Council, the largest opposition body, as a legitimate representative of the Syrian people and the opposition as a whole.

The group also called for a halt to all support for the Syrian government, with an emphasis on weapons and ammunitions - an implicit criticism of Iran, among other countries, for backing Assad.

From Turkey's vantage point, its leaders' public stance against an Israeli strike on Iran serves to remind Iran of Turkey's invaluable neighborly input in the ongoing nuclear crisis. At a time when US officials, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, are trying to maximize pre-talks pressure by warning that the "window of diplomacy will not remain open indefinitely" - a veiled military threat - the Turkish antidote of warning of dire regional consequences of a war with Iran certainly has timely value.

But, by the same token, the same pronouncements have the unintended consequence of heightening concerns about an imminent attack on Iran over fears it is building nuclear weapons, which is highly unlikely given the deleterious implications in terms of threats to oil flowing from the Persian Gulf and, indeed, the health of the global economy.

Instead of putting the accent on an unlikely war, if Erdogan is really Iran's friend, he should have prioritized the economic warfare being waged against Iran and taken proactive steps to distance his country from it. by going along with the oil embargo, albeit in an incremental fashion, Turkey has proved that it values its loyalty to the Western bloc over good neighborly relations with Iran.

Therefore, it would be a mistake for Tehran to reward Turkey's oil announcement by holding the nuclear talks in Istanbul. Ankara should take its cue on Iran from Beijing, Islamabad and Moscow, that is, countries that have resisted Western bullying, instead of bowing to Washington and Tel Aviv.

Under laws aimed at pressing Iran over its nuclear program - which Tehran insists is for peaceful purposes - the US will penalize foreign financial institutions over transactions with Iran's central bank, which handles sales of oil.

Turkey needs a reminder from Iran that it does not appreciate Janus-faced diplomacy than sends a contradictory signal towards a reliable energy and trade partner.

Lest we forget, In Seoul two weeks ago, prior to visiting Tehran, Erdogan in his meeting with US President Barack Obama reiterated his government's "joining the US" on Iran, a pledge he fulfilled by the above-mentioned announcement regarding the Turkish curb on oil imports from Iran.

Even while in Tehran, Erdogan displayed his bifurcated approach by expressing support for Iran's nuclear program and, simultaneously, raising concerns about a nuclear arms race in the region - this from a leader of a country that has hosted a number of US nuclear bombs on its territory for decades.

Indeed, it appears that much like during the Cold War, when Turkey reaped the benefits of being a "frontline state", today in the new context of the Iran nuclear crisis and regional alignments along pro- and anti-West fault lines, Ankara is seeking to carve out a profitable niche for itself that procures sustainable dependency from both sides.

The trouble with this Turkish perspective is that it is built on a house of illusions, the fanciful thought that somehow other countries will forgive Turkey's sailing along in the US-led ship of hegemonic and coercive policies in the region, simply because Turkey has mastered the art of diplomatic double-speak.

Asia Times Online :: Iran still coy on Turkey's overtures


I like this line in particular should take its cue on Iran from Beijing, Islamabad and Moscow, that is, countries that have resisted Western bullying, instead of bowing to Washington and Tel Aviv. Iran Pakistan Russia and China step forward your time is coming
 
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Iran has little choice. China Russia and Pakistan defy America not out of love etc but out of their national interest. Turkey also looks at its interest which is best served by being part of NATO. Simple really lol

Every country is and will look at how it benefits most
 
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Turkiye decided to buy some oil from Libya to HELP them get normalise..
What will Turkiye do with the extra oil? they cant dump extra oil to a river....is it ok?
Iran sells oil to Turkiye +%10 price than China
also natural gas pricing btw to countries goes to international judgment..(dont say zionist puppet ..bla bla ..than later)
who writes this article (asia times online) I dont know ..but its not reliable source for me ..and completely wrong analise..
 
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I think Baghdad could be a better place to hold talks ,it appears Turkey is dreaming the ottoman era .

Don't get me wrong but isn't Baghdad as same as Washington DC or NY. Baghdad is unfurtionatly a puppet state of US.
If you think Istanbul is the wrong choice then perhaps Havana is a better or Tokyo.

As for Iran they (some stupid politicians and military leaders) have spoken a lot of hostile things
So let not call names and blame turkey for something Zionists or slaves.
The importance is that the negotiations can be held and a solution can be set.

Turkey did decrease its purchase of raw oil from Iran but with only 20%.
Iran is not getting bankrupt because. This way NATO is happy and probably even Tehran is happy with the solution.
 
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No one should trust Turkey for the way it behaving with Muslim countries - it supported NATO bombing and Saudi Qatar massacre in Libya and now trying to do the same in Syria by hosting and supplying arms to armed thugs. Now look what is happening in Libya - NATO countries are looting Libyan oil and Libya is disintegrating by tribal warfare. Turkey can not wash its hand for its crime under disguise of R2P doctrine.
 
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Turkiye decided to buy some oil from Libya to HELP them get normalise..
What will Turkiye do with the extra oil? they cant dump extra oil to a river....is it ok?
Iran sells oil to Turkiye +%10 price than China
also natural gas pricing btw to countries goes to international judgment..(dont say zionist puppet ..bla bla ..than later)
who writes this article (asia times online) I dont know ..but its not reliable source for me ..and completely wrong analise..

hmmm.. nope. Where did you get that retarded analysis from?

Turkey must get an exemption from US sanctions if it wants to deal with Iran. The requirement for an exemption is to cut oil trade by a minimum of 18%. Turkey cut it by by 20. This is something that Turkey was forced into by the US. In the end, Turkey will be hurt because procuring oil from Africa is more expensive than procuring from your next door neighbour, especially when you're already buying X amount from them anyway. They will also be hurt because Iran is willing to accept Turkish Lira which will then be used to purchase Turkish goods. To buy from Libya, Turkey will need to use the green back.

IMO Turkey should have just manned up and kept buying from Iran, not to help Iran, but to help itself. Iran can sell the excess to China or somebody else. Turkey will have to endure a headache that has just begun. When the US starts dictating your actions, they will not stop till they control everything that goes on in your country.
 
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hmmm.. nope. Where did you get that retarded analysis from?

Turkey must get an exemption from US sanctions if it wants to deal with Iran. The requirement for an exemption is to cut oil trade by a minimum of 18%. Turkey cut it by by 20. This is something that Turkey was forced into by the US. In the end, Turkey will be hurt because procuring oil from Africa is more expensive than procuring from your next door neighbour, especially when you're already buying X amount from them anyway. They will also be hurt because Iran is willing to accept Turkish Lira which will then be used to purchase Turkish goods. To buy from Libya, Turkey will need to use the green back.

IMO Turkey should have just manned up and kept buying from Iran, not to help Iran, but to help itself. Iran can sell the excess to China or somebody else. Turkey will have to endure a headache that has just begun. When the US starts dictating your actions, they will not stop till they control everything that goes on in your country.
Izmir- Libya distance is neaer than of Iran-Izmir...its cheaper..and libyan oil has more grade rate...what about distance of China-Iran..
USD=AUS=JPY=GBP=EUR=TRL=HKD= ..no matter.. in FOREX exchange
you are free to choose who is your enemy or friend
 
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Izmir- Libya distance is neaer than of Iran-Izmir...its cheaper..and libyan oil has more grade rate...what about distance of China-Iran..
USD=AUS=JPY=GBP=EUR=TRL=HKD= ..no matter.. in FOREX exchange
you are free to choose who is your enemy or friend


The fuuu are you even talking about?
At least learn English so ppl can understand your nonsense

And no, it does matter. What you said makes no sense.

lol at the last part
 
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The bottom line is that Turks have more to gain from Nato and America than Iran
 
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Iran still coy on Turkey's overtures

By Kaveh L Afrasiabi

CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts - Despite a strong personal pitch by the visiting Turkish premier last week to hold the next round of Iran nuclear talks in Istanbul, Tehran is still ambivalent and may opt for an alternative venue.

Although the talks are tentatively scheduled for mid-April, as the time of writing there has been no official announcement regarding the venue, even though Iran's Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi, in his meeting with Recep Tayyip Erdogan expressed his personal view that Istanbul was "the best place" to hold the multilateral talks between Iran and the "Iran Six" nations (UN Security Council's permanent five - the United States, France, the United Kingdom, Russia and China - plus Germany).

The fact that Erdogan's trip was followed by Turkey's announcement that it was complying with Western energy sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program and was thus reducing its oil imports from Iran by 20%, coinciding with opposite expressions by countries such as China and Pakistan, has certainly added to Iran's ambivalence.

This is not to mention Iran's misgivings about Turkey's anti-Damascus stance, the threat of military action in Syria together with North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces, as well as Turkey's embrace of an anti-Iran radar system, all of which have inevitably introduced uncomfortable thorns in Iran-Turkey relations.
As a result, no matter Erdogan's latest heroics regarding Israel's nuclear arsenal and his expression of support for Iran's civilian nuclear program, the political apprehensions and concerns about Turkey's regional intentions are becoming cemented in Iran. Even if Tehran agrees to hold the talks in Istanbul, this would be an uncomfortable decision taken with a good deal of reluctance.

By holding the Iran talks, Turkey seeks to replicate its efforts in the Syrian crisis, where it plays host to the "Friends of Syria" international group opposed to the year-long suppression of protest by President Bashar al-Assad. In it most recent meeting, representatives of the 70-plus nations comprising the group recognized the Syrian National Council, the largest opposition body, as a legitimate representative of the Syrian people and the opposition as a whole.

The group also called for a halt to all support for the Syrian government, with an emphasis on weapons and ammunitions - an implicit criticism of Iran, among other countries, for backing Assad.

From Turkey's vantage point, its leaders' public stance against an Israeli strike on Iran serves to remind Iran of Turkey's invaluable neighborly input in the ongoing nuclear crisis. At a time when US officials, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, are trying to maximize pre-talks pressure by warning that the "window of diplomacy will not remain open indefinitely" - a veiled military threat - the Turkish antidote of warning of dire regional consequences of a war with Iran certainly has timely value.

But, by the same token, the same pronouncements have the unintended consequence of heightening concerns about an imminent attack on Iran over fears it is building nuclear weapons, which is highly unlikely given the deleterious implications in terms of threats to oil flowing from the Persian Gulf and, indeed, the health of the global economy.

Instead of putting the accent on an unlikely war, if Erdogan is really Iran's friend, he should have prioritized the economic warfare being waged against Iran and taken proactive steps to distance his country from it. by going along with the oil embargo, albeit in an incremental fashion, Turkey has proved that it values its loyalty to the Western bloc over good neighborly relations with Iran.

Therefore, it would be a mistake for Tehran to reward Turkey's oil announcement by holding the nuclear talks in Istanbul. Ankara should take its cue on Iran from Beijing, Islamabad and Moscow, that is, countries that have resisted Western bullying, instead of bowing to Washington and Tel Aviv.

Under laws aimed at pressing Iran over its nuclear program - which Tehran insists is for peaceful purposes - the US will penalize foreign financial institutions over transactions with Iran's central bank, which handles sales of oil.

Turkey needs a reminder from Iran that it does not appreciate Janus-faced diplomacy than sends a contradictory signal towards a reliable energy and trade partner.

Lest we forget, In Seoul two weeks ago, prior to visiting Tehran, Erdogan in his meeting with US President Barack Obama reiterated his government's "joining the US" on Iran, a pledge he fulfilled by the above-mentioned announcement regarding the Turkish curb on oil imports from Iran.

Even while in Tehran, Erdogan displayed his bifurcated approach by expressing support for Iran's nuclear program and, simultaneously, raising concerns about a nuclear arms race in the region - this from a leader of a country that has hosted a number of US nuclear bombs on its territory for decades.

Indeed, it appears that much like during the Cold War, when Turkey reaped the benefits of being a "frontline state", today in the new context of the Iran nuclear crisis and regional alignments along pro- and anti-West fault lines, Ankara is seeking to carve out a profitable niche for itself that procures sustainable dependency from both sides.

The trouble with this Turkish perspective is that it is built on a house of illusions, the fanciful thought that somehow other countries will forgive Turkey's sailing along in the US-led ship of hegemonic and coercive policies in the region, simply because Turkey has mastered the art of diplomatic double-speak.

Asia Times Online :: Iran still coy on Turkey's overtures


I like this line in particular should take its cue on Iran from Beijing, Islamabad and Moscow, that is, countries that have resisted Western bullying, instead of bowing to Washington and Tel Aviv. Iran Pakistan Russia and China step forward your time is coming

Bits Please .. Pakistan has been in US influence forever.. It will sell its friends once Dollars are shown..so you can take out Pakistan from that list
 
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Bits Please .. Pakistan has been in US influence forever.. It will sell its friends once Dollars are shown..so you can take out Pakistan from that list

:rofl: Indian can't bear to see Pakistan standing up to India's master. lol I thought India was Iran's friend?? Truth comes out eh and some Indians cant handle it
 
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No one should trust Turkey for the way it behaving with Muslim countries - it supported NATO bombing and Saudi Qatar massacre in Libya and now trying to do the same in Syria by hosting and supplying arms to armed thugs. Now look what is happening in Libya - NATO countries are looting Libyan oil and Libya is disintegrating by tribal warfare. Turkey can not wash its hand for its crime under disguise of R2P doctrine.

I love Turks but they are Nato first and foremost which follows Americans who are dictated to by AIPAC and Israel
 
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