Iran still coy on Turkey's overtures

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

Both Pakistan and Iran were amongst the first in the world to recognize the PRC, and both Pakistan and Iran were the two nations that have consistently had good relations with us. Not just since the founding of the PRC, but for thousands of years before that as well, from the time when we were not nation-states but ancient civilizations in Asia.

Iran is suppose to have had trade with china since the time of the Elam, that is 7000 year!
where were the yankees back then?

 

[lem34]

Iran is suppose to have had trade with china since the time of the Elam, that is 7000 year!
where were the yankees back then?

That is why I say we are natural allies. We want trade and prosperity for our neighbourhood and we will always be here. Outsiders like the Americans can pack up and leave any time like they are trying to leave Afghanistan at the moment whilst Americans want to sow dissension and for their corporations to steal natural resources

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Iran is suppose to have had trade with china since the time of the Elam, that is 5000 year!
where were the yankees back then?

LOL, the "American civilization" has lasted for only 200 years.

Still they have promoted the fallacy that "American civilization" is the best in the world, and seek to lecture countries like China/Iran on a daily basis, about how their American culture is the best.

Well, the civilizations of Asia and the Middle East have stood the test of time, we have lasted for thousands of years before the USA even existed.

 

[lem34]

Why I see this vision succeeding is that unlike the silk road pipelines which are proposed by America which would exclude Iran Putin is very much behind this type of arrangements and now that he will be President again maybe we will see a push towards it.

Just realised something that wont be missed by any of you Iran Pakistan China and Putin all have negative propaganda by west wonder why?

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

LOL, the "American civilization" has lasted for only 200 years.

Still they have promoted the fallacy that "American civilization" is the best in the world, and seek to lecture countries like China/Iran on a daily basis, about how their American culture is the best.

Well, the civilizations of Asia and the Middle East have stood the test of time, we have lasted for thousands of years before the USA even existed.

Bro, look at their country. one in seven american is finding it hard to find food...this is very sad considering they call themselves the richest country.
they are trillion of dollars on debt.

china could had bankrupt them if they wanted in a day, but problem is china needs them for now.
200 years lol, I have things passed down from my ancestors which is older than them hahaha

Why I see this vision succeeding is that unlike the silk road pipelines which are proposed by America which would exclude Iran Putin is very much behind this type of arrangements and now that he will be President again maybe we will see a push towards it.

Just realised something that wont be missed by any of you Iran Pakistan China and Putin all have negative propaganda by west wonder why?

I dont trust medvedev...I like putin cause he hated the west, but I still do not trust him.
they will sell us out the first chance they get. just wait for usa to offer them a joint missile shield, then they will call Iran,china,pakistan their enemies and usa their buddy.

 

[lem34]

china could had bankrupt them if they wanted in a day,
.

All good things come to he who is patient lol

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

china could had bankrupt them if they wanted in a day, but problem is china needs them for now.
200 years lol, I have things passed down from my ancestors which is older than them hahaha

Unfortunately, we are still quite weak at the moment.

Compared to the power of Ancient China, Ancient Iran, or even modern America.... China today is still very weak. We need more time to build up.

People think that China being America's banker means that we are in a good position. No, in fact it means that if America commits suicide they will bring us down as well.

America is essentially blackmailing us by threatening to destroy their own economy. That is stupid, but it is how they like to function.

We shouldn't have bought so much US debt, in hindsight it was a very stupid thing of us to do.

 

[lem34]

Medev and Putin were on the same page throughout the only thing they disagreed on was Libya

Russia's leaders disagree on Libya, Putin rebuked | World news | The Guardian

Lets see I do hear what you say but China and Russia seem to be cooperating well. Problem with Putin and the west is you are correct but west will never give a fair deal to Putin and Putin will not accept less

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

what china can do to counter them is to first create a joint BRICS currency to use instead of dollars.

and most importantly, china MUST become and innovating country, it means designing and exporting products all from china. not just manufacturing good for apple, and others etc etc.

then show usa the finger.
the world economy was in charge by the east long ago, then it moved to the west. and now It is coming back to the east.
the good thing is after now, it will never return to the west. they are finished.

 

[lem34]

what china can do to counter them is to first create a joint BRICS currency to use instead of dollars.

I think China exchanged currencies with several countries. most importantly Japan I think:



China, 14 Currency Swap Agreements and Counting
Published January 12, 2012 | By Swiss Metal Assets

Renmimbi Yuan

Since the financial crisis of 2008 China has been signing agreement after agreement with other sovereign nations for bilateral currency swaps. China and these other nations are trying to diversify their central bank foreign – exchange reserves out of U.S. Dollars. China would like its currency, the Renmimbi, to play more of an important role in the world financial system. Here is a list of the fourteen nations that have already signed bilateral currency swap agreements with China.

Pakistan
Argentina
South Korea
Indonesia
New Zealand
Malaysia
Belarus
Hong Kong
Japan
Uzbekistan
Thailand
Turkey
Singapore
Kazakhstan

After the collapse in 2008 Chinese exporters were finding it difficult to do international trade as they were unable to settle their deals with Yuan (Renmimbi) and were forced to settle in Dollars. The currency swap agreements will make it easier for now for international companies and traders to receive financing in Yuan during difficult economic periods. If they can settle their deals in Yuan (Renmimbi) it would reduce their risk. China and these nations would like to keep trade flowing even in the event of another financial crisis.

What is a Currency Swap? Essentially a currency swap is a transaction between two nations to exchange the interest and principal payments on loans issued by two different nations. The two countries gain access to foreign exchange reserves. This limits the nations exposure to exchange rate fluctuations because they can pay back the liability associated with its currency instead of in Dollars.

Why is China so concerned about the U.S. Dollar? China has grown suspicious of the US government unwillingness to curb its spending and printing of its currency. This runaway printing has and will continue to devalue it dollar-denominated assets. Recently we are hearing that the US Federal Reserve will quietly implement QE3 (Quantitative Easing 3).

China would like the world to look upon its currency as a store of value similar to Gold and the Dollar. This privilege has given the US the ability to expand and borrow. China would also like this ability. If nations hold reserves in Yuan (Renmimbi) it is extending credit to the Chinese government. These currency swaps are the first steps in Yuan (Renmimbi) transforming in to a global currency. How many more countries will sign agreements with China in 2012? How will the USA and the IMF react? I look forward to seeing the results of China spreading its influence.

http://www.swissmetalassets.com/china-currency-agreements-counting.html

I think they have swapped with Russia and some others this year

 

[longbrained]

So how is Pakistan going to do that ? With what tools, what for diplomatic influence do they have on Iranian officials or more importantly the US foreign policy. because we all know no matter who wins the policy stays the same in favor of Israel

Actually no tools are needed. You just need an honest intermediate negotiator who can talk to the other guy. That is all. During Nixon time China was being portrayed as a much bigger devil than Iran is being portrayed now in US. But Pakistan was the intermediary negotiator and Nixon kept every thing about the negotiation secret until the last moment he was flying to Beijing. If ever a peace between Iran and US is to come, it will be this way. It will never come through negotiations with Europeans and in places like Turkey.

 

[lem34]

LOL, the "American civilization" has lasted for only 200 years.

Still they have promoted the fallacy that "American civilization" is the best in the world, and seek to lecture countries like China/Iran on a daily basis, about how their American culture is the best.

Well, the civilizations of Asia and the Middle East have stood the test of time, we have lasted for thousands of years before the USA even existed.

Actually bearing in mind that they are on their way down in Historical terms there empire will be but a footnote of barbarians and liars and double speak

 

[SHAHED]

Don't get me wrong but isn't Baghdad as same as Washington DC or NY. Baghdad is unfurtionatly a puppet state of US.
If you think Istanbul is the wrong choice then perhaps Havana is a better or Tokyo.

As for Iran they (some stupid politicians and military leaders) have spoken a lot of hostile things
So let not call names and blame turkey for something Zionists or slaves.
The importance is that the negotiations can be held and a solution can be set.

Turkey did decrease its purchase of raw oil from Iran but with only 20%.
Iran is not getting bankrupt because. This way NATO is happy and probably even Tehran is happy with the solution.

stupid is euro ! what you feel about fuel price stupid