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Iran Seeks Strategic Partnership with India

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The IP comes to India from Balochistan , where Pakistan is unable even protect Chinese Engineers. How can India be sure, Indian economic assets there will be safe?

Chinese can afford such risks, India can't.


Most likey, India will go for a pipeline through sea, though expensive in the short-term, economical in the long-term.

I like to see a proper government explanation. Until 2010 when India was committed to the project, It knew the risks associated with it or else they would not have joined it if that was the reason
 
I think one of the countries that is gonna benefit the most from Iran-U.S relationship and lifting of sanctions from Iran, is India.It's good for your country in every way possible.We can gaurantee your energy security while there is no pressure on India from the west.Chabahar port can develop much faster than today,and India or even Far East countries like Malaysia,Thailand,Philippines,Indonesia and others can have a fast and secure access to Central Asian markets and even Europe and ME countries.The most damage on Iran-India relations comes from the western sanctions and pressure.

See; Chahbahar is a viable port location. Plus its hinterland is secured. The world has to recognise (including USA. LOL) that Iran has manged to keep that part of the country well under control. Now let me sketch you a scenario that may seem fantastic, but is neither impossible or unbelievable. That USA allow India to use Chahbahar to connect Afganistan to the world and vice-versa. This has been the subject of many discussions between India and USA and the US resistance to the idea has not only waned but actually has tacitly accepted that possibility.

Another more radical and less believable extension to that scenario: that the USA can use this route in future to sustain the remaining US presence in Afghanistan post the 2014 draw-down in Afghanistan. Even Russia will not oppose that idea. So let us keep watching and see how this prediction pans out. Don't believe me, but keep a sharp eye to the future. :)

One thing is crystal clear: that any effort to stabilise Afghanistan has to be multilateral; it cannot be the preserve of an "exclusive club". So that is where Russia and Iran and other countries come in. Even Mr.Larijani has indicated his support to such moves. And USA has wisened up to the fact that if it accedes to this, its own acceptability in the region will go up. Events taking place in USA including Chuck Hagel's appointment as DefSec point towards this. Now Iran must act in a mature response; even Iran will gain from it.
 
Strategic partnership with India??? For what and how India could help???:drag:
 
I like to see a proper government explanation. Until 2010 when India was committed to the project, It knew the risks associated with it or else they would not have joined it if that was the reason

Thin Business Ties
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¶11. (C) The Ambassadors agreed that energy cooperation is the
top bilateral issue between India and Iran, but most noted
that other than trade in crude oil and refined products

NEW DELHI 00000594 003 OF 003


cooperation had been limited due to the stalled
Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) pipeline. The proposed pipeline
has been indefinitely placed on the backburner by the
Government of India, which has been unable to obtain the
guarantee that Iran would provide an uninterrupted supply of
gas at a reasonable price. India's Parliament would oppose
India's financing of a pipeline that runs through Pakistan,
explained Ambassador Welti. "It does not make economic
sense," according to Singh, who was skeptical about the
benefits to India of the proposed pipeline under Iran's
current demands. (Comment: Iran has broken its past
agreements on oil and gas deals and has little credibility
within the Indian Government as a long term partner on large,
expensive, long-term oil and gas deals. In addition, India's
concerns about the security of the IPI pipeline route through
Pakistan have been strongly reinforced by the November 2008
Mumbai terrorist attacks, making the likelihood this project
will come to fruition anytime soon very low. End Comment.)

Cable reference id: #09NEWDELHI594


Interesting to point out that, the foundation for the pipline between India and Iran was laid out in February 1999 i.e prior to Kargil.

In February 1999, Iran signed a preliminary "in-principle" agreement with India, agreeing to the idea of bi-lateral collaboration.

Iran to India Natural Gas Pipeline
 
Probably it's paying for oil on time. otherwise India already had good economic relations and cooperation in Afghanistan with Iran since 80s

In other words... since revolution.

One very logical question... why Indian economic relations are not threatened by US sanctions... ?

At least.. US can issue a statement, if not sanctions!
 
See; Chahbahar is a viable port location. Plus its hinterland is secured. The world has to recognise (including USA. LOL) that Iran has manged to keep that part of the country well under control. Now let me sketch you a scenario that may seem fantastic, but is neither impossible or unbelievable. That USA allow India to use Chahbahar to connect Afganistan to the world and vice-versa. This has been the subject of many discussions between India and USA and the US resistance to the idea has not only waned but actually has tacitly accepted that possibility.

Another more radical and less believable extension to that scenario: that the USA can use this route in future to sustain the remaining US presence in Afghanistan post the 2014 draw-down in Afghanistan. Even Russia will not oppose that idea. So let us keep watching and see how this prediction pans out. Don't believe me, but keep a sharp eye to the future. :)

One thing is crystal clear: that any effort to stabilise Afghanistan has to be multilateral; it cannot be the preserve of an "exclusive club". So that is where Russia and Iran and other countries come in. Even Mr.Larijani has indicated his support to such moves. And USA has wisened up to the fact that if it accedes to this, its own acceptability in the region will go up. Events taking place in USA including Chuck Hagel's appointment as DefSec point towards this. Now Iran must act in a mature response; even Iran will gain from it.

A US Iran thaw won't be a pretty scenario for Russia nor China.
 
What were you thinking.. while sending such cables? Did you assumed Pakistan will agree eventually?

What king of transit fees were in your mind... when you were working out this deal?

You seem to have me confused with Indian negotiator for IPI deal. :lol:
 
A US Iran thaw won't be a pretty scenario for Russia nor China.

Why do you say that? Does a thaw in relations between Iran and USA mean enmity towards Russia? The days of a bi-polar world are over.
Even Russia will assist USA in some measure if the final outcome of that reslts in Russia being able to secure its southern flank. While Russia is resurgent; it is still nowhere near the power of the USSR. While the US is being whittled down slowly in strength.
That is reason enough for both of them to make accommodations.

Even Iran needs to be able to come out of the hole that sanctions have put it into. That is a sufficient incentive for adjustments.
 
IPI-Pipeline.gif


The IP comes to India from Balochistan , where Pakistan is unable even protect Chinese Engineers. How can India be sure, Indian economic assets there will be safe?

Chinese can afford such risks, India can't.

Most likey, India will go for a pipeline through sea, though expensive in the short-term, economical in the long-term.

Indians were thinking to annex Baluchistan, Sindh and South Punjab.. with support of puppet regime in place! some how Zardari failed do deliver.
They realised that they have to start with south Punjab and than, Sindh/Baluchistan.
Let's see if south Punjab got annexed in next 5 years, and what kind of game plan is in swing. while, map clearly shows the parties/states doing efforts to balkanize Pakistan.
 
In other words... since revolution.

One very logical question... why Indian economic relations are not threatened by US sanctions... ?

At least.. US can issue a statement, if not sanctions!

Who said threatened? Infect Iran under sanctions is more beneficial for India & China.
 
Indians were thinking to annex Baluchistan, Sindh and South Punjab.. with support of puppet regime in place! some how Zardari failed do deliver.
They realised that they have to start with south Punjab and than, Sindh/Baluchistan.
Let's see if south Punjab got annexed in next 5 years, and what kind of game plan is in swing. while, map clearly shows the parties/states doing efforts to balkanize Pakistan.

Oh no! You leaked our sinister plan. :tsk:
 
Why do you say that? Does a thaw in relations between Iran and USA mean enmity towards Russia? The days of a bi-polar world are over.
Even Russia will assist USA in some measure if the final outcome of that reslts in Russia being able to secure its southern flank. While Russia is resurgent; it is still nowhere near the power of the USSR. While the US is being whittled down slowly in strength.
That is reason enough for both of them to make accommodations.

Even Iran needs to be able to come out of the hole that sanctions have put it into. That is a sufficient incentive for adjustments.

It will cut off Russian and Chinese influence completely from that region and coastline plus it will fructify what US is essentially out to achieve and that is a solid base right at the foot hills of Central Asia.
 
It will cut off Russian and Chinese influence completely from that region and coastline plus it will fructify what US is essentially out to achieve and that is a solid base right at the foot hills of Central Asia.

I don't think that is happening; at least not in respect of Russia. Russia right now only wants to secure its southern flank while USA wants to shift its focus to Asia. In the CARs; both will make adjustments. Nobody will be able cut the other out. Iran is no push-over state. Plus that "evil empire syndrome" between USA and Russia is over.

Who said threatened? Infect Iran under sanctions is more beneficial for India & China.

In a way that is true. The sanctions made India become more "creative" in contouring its Foreign Policy in the Middle East.
 

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