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Iran pounded US-backed terrorist bases in northern region of Iraq with 73 ballistic missiles

You think Iran will ever fire a BM at the Taliban? Kurds in Iraq and Afghanistan is two very different things my friend. :rofl::rofl:

How is that different? Both turks and iranians know how to deal with multinational kurds spread accross different borders.

We are in the same situation with the pathans and baloch terror groups. Rather our forces get to the border they are specifically instructed to hold back and not cross IB. Our forces should have full authority to strike accross the border as any self respecting military would do.

On an almost daily basis we hear of army and FC casualties. Not a day goes by without a loss on the border. Just to man the damn border we are taking losses let alone a cross border operation.

We should learn from turks who weekly conduct airstrikes and iranians who conduct missile strikes. There losses against kurds are almost 0. Our losses on the other hand against ttp/bla is unbearable to even state easily in tens of thousands.

Since SS came to power there have been a few airstrikes and drone strikes. But that is almost neglible. I will support this govt if they put national security first. Khan i supported but he became the Godfather of terrorist praising taliban and obl while his soilders are butchered.

So whose the idiot here?
 
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Source?

ISIL was founded by former members of Iraqi intelligentsia who served Saddam in collusion with Al-Qaeda affiliates in the region. These people had a base of operations in Syria as well. Yes, Asad looked the other way until ISIL became too large for him to ignore.
tell that to late usa president , he taught otherwise
 
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What has Iran done against Taliban to protect Hazara in Afghanistan? Nothing.
 
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How is that different? Both turks and iranians know how to deal with multinational kurds spread accross different borders.

We are in the same situation with the pathans and baloch terror groups. Rather our forces get to the border they are specifically instructed to hold back and not cross IB. Our forces should have full authority to strike accross the border as any self respecting military would do.

On an almost daily basis we hear of army and FC casualties. Not a day goes by without a loss on the border. Just to man the damn border we are taking losses let alone a cross border operation.

We should learn from turks who weekly conduct airstrikes and iranians who conduct missile strikes. There losses against kurds are almost 0. Our losses on the other hand against ttp/bla is unbearable to even state easily in tens of thousands.

Since SS came to power there have been a few airstrikes and drone strikes. But that is almost neglible. I will support this govt if they put national security first. Khan i supported but he became the Godfather of terrorist praising taliban and obl while his soilders are butchered.

So whose the idiot here?
You realize Kurds in Iraq are selling oil to Israel and governing northern Iraq with cooperation and approval of Iraqi govt which is dominated by Iran led parties ? And with full coordination of Iran led militias in Iraq. Iran don't need to fire anything on Kurds except for theatrics or claiming to destroy Mossad bases there(lol).

They have militias on the ground that can fire rockets at the Kurds whenever. More importantly those militias can enter the region controlled by the Kurdish militias. They do not because Iran , like US and Israel , prefer Kurds rule northern Iraq rather than Sunni Arabs or Turks. That's why the Irani led militias in Iraq fire rockets at Turkish forces when they conduct cross border special ops against the Kurds. They never fire at Kurds for anything. Iran here is just doing attempted distraction from local situation and also due to their paranoia from local Iranians of Kurdish descent.

As for Afghanistan, last time Iran tried to fool around their border guards got tookened out. And Iran came out and apologized to Taliban citing misunderstanding. Iran will never target the Taliban. Except by proxy. Which they were doing while US forces were based in Afghanistan. Once US forces left Iran supply lines to proxies was cut off by Taliban .
 
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You are contradicting yourself. Saddam might be in good books of USA when he was focused on Iran but this changed when he ordered invasion and annexation of Kuwait in 1990. At this stage, Americans realized that Saddam is a threat to their interests in the Middle East and cannot be trusted. They felt the need to stop him, therefore. This shows that Saddam was nobody's puppet but made his own decisions. His problem was that he was too stubborn and rigid for his own good.
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Bilateral relations between two states are not written in stone but shaped by interests in large part. The interests can converge or diverge over time subject to decision(s) of the leader(s) of both countries. No American President took oath to protect and patronize Saddam as a matter of state policy.
No, it's you who contradicted yourself, first aid Saddam was a threat, later changed your word and said he might had been before... As I said, Saddam just didn't knew his position, he thought American support had no limit.

US backed Saddam during his war with Iran wholeheartedly, from intelligence to weapons, from media to UNSC. US didn't even let UN condemn Iraq's use of chemical weapons, cause after all this was US which had provided it in first place. in the last year of war, US airforce directly joined Saddam to take back the Faw island, so this isn't a maybe, but a certainly.

This extensive support (which you call might!) was the reason Saddam forgot his position.


lol, US officials admit to have created these terrorist groups and you say source? right, I will ask CIA to write about their works on the Wikipedia!

US gathered wahhabi terrorists from around the world to fight Syrian government, each one under its own brand, but all for the same side. tens of billions of cache and endless flow of western weapons was driving the battlefield, not some tribal agenda, their name or faction doesn't matter. it's not like the column of ISIS brand new cars grew from underground!

US never wanted and will never want a powerful Iraq army which is a majority Shiah country, but ISIS quick advancement in Iraq was more due to treason of it's officials, which was expected from US aligned traitors, basically Mosul fell with no resistance.

The very same ISIS was stopped in Kurdistan of Iraq just by Gen. Soleimani and 70 of his men.

Iraq popular forces liberated the ISIS held cities quickly, but it took 8 months to free the Mosul and that was solely the American sabotage who used their sectarian excuses to prevent popular forces join the war. and what was delivered was a fully city ruined city, thanks to US bombardments.


I completely understand that USA and Iran are NOT on good terms. I know much about when and how USA have attempted to harm Iran. I can point out events and incidents. I do my homework.

But it is still a stretch to assert that USA have attempted to destroy Iran. Just look at how USA treated Iraq in comparison.

1. Both USA and Iran were on the same page for punishing Saddam regime.

2. Both USA and Iran were on the same page for punishing ISIL.
No, Iran and US weren't on the same page of punishing the saddam. US master plan was to attack Iran after Afghanistan and Iraq. American Generals and even G.W. Bush have admitted that, what prevented them was solely Iran's power. Furthermore, if US left the Iraq, it was due to daily attack of Iran-backed forces.

US helping Iraq or Kurds against ISIS was also to prevent Iran taking the role, to prevent the so called Tehran-Damascus road. if it wasn't for the US, now Syria was united again already and geared up on Israel border, while US was being remembered as the founder of yet another terrorist group.
 
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U.S. State Department deputy spokesperson Vedant Patel on Thursday confirmed that a U.S. citizen was killed in the Iranian rocket attack that targeted dissident sites in Iraq's Kurdistan region on Wednesday.
Patel said he could not make any further comment on the case due to privacy considerations.


What was the so called US citizen doing in the terrorist's camp?

CIA should accept my condolences (if you believe my sorrow) ;)
 
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Not gonna lie, the US Backed terrorist sure have a ton of money to build such modern forts. lol
 
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He is ironically doing takfir on all Sunni Muslims, including two members in the thread. He thinks plugging in the word 'Wahab' (which has no connotation) will provide him some kind of cover. The guy probably lacks any religious knowledge too. It would show if religious debates were allowed. He probably just heard this term somewhere from his clerics that do takfir like him
They label us as Takfiris but do the most takfir on us 🤣.
Alhumdulliah I am a follower of the Quran and Sunnah of Rasulallah (ﷺ).
I worship ALLAH AZZAWAJAL alone, not the Taghut’s in Tehran.
 
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Out of Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan and basically the whole Middle East, you Iranians are the only ones to be invaded by Russia Or Britain and show NO RESISTANCE WHATSOEVER 😂😂

Anglo Soviet invasion of Iran

for all that talk about being a great empire and being impossible to invade you folded pretty damn quick the first time in modernity anyone tried. No matter how bad the situation was, no one else folded without fighting and Iran was a lot more powerful than many others invaded by the same empires. Please check your aukaat and remain well within it, you persian squid

Before that persians were invaded countless times throughout history. Be it the greeks, romans, macedonians (alexander), mongols, afghans, turks, brits, russians, arabs (muslims), etc… funny thing is during most of the great persian empire their richest and most tax producing province was the Punjab :D thus why almost every conquerer of persia continued eastwards towards the indus from alexander to arabs.

Modern Iran is a combination of an ethnic religious nation state. Leading farsi speakers and shias globally. This is why you now see kurds, azeri turks, turkmen, and baloch rebelling against the farsis who are only 50-60% of irans population. The farsi speaking belt geography is most vulnerable from north and west. This is why Iran always prefers to have good relations with afghan taliban, pakistan, and the stans to the north.

Once you understand these geographic vulnerabilities it makes sense of irans foreign policy.
 
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Out of Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan and basically the whole Middle East, you Iranians are the only ones to be invaded by Russia Or Britain and show NO RESISTANCE WHATSOEVER 😂😂

Anglo Soviet invasion of Iran

for all that talk about being a great empire and being impossible to invade you folded pretty damn quick the first time in modernity anyone tried. No matter how bad the situation was, no one else folded without fighting and Iran was a lot more powerful than many others invaded by the same empires. Please check your aukaat and remain well within it, you persian squid
You guys were enslaved by whites for several centuries before Muhammad Jinnah rescued u

Pakistani HDI is lower than many African countries because of many centuries slavery

And even today you have slavery mentally in your dna. Whites bomb your country and you kiss them

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Our people fought against British and soviets and didn't let our country become enslaved but you were enslaved or created by them by 5,000 british soldiers on foot

Say Hello to your daddy who bomb your country for a decade and you do nothing
 
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Iran negotiate with Taliban about shia people in Afghanistan.

Iran will support Taliban economy and government if they protect shia people in Afghanistan
The same people like @Lehrasap who say Iran doesnt help Hazara are the same people who say OBama didnt help black people - what could they really do in reality? people just dream of things in the sky and when their govt cant do it they get mad. smh
 
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that alleged "kids book" and the salon chair appear to be the only 2 extremely flammable things around that seem to have remarkably survived intact. Almost as if some CIA rat started putting a couple of civilian items there to take pictures in the rubble and claim it was a civilian target...


this was extremely common in the syrian war. You had absolutely destroyed buildings with everything incinerated, yet some kids teddy bear, or other recognizable item would be in perfect condition in the middle of the photo frame.

this bullshit only works on low iq americans. do better.
 
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Absolutely. If they wanted a real diversion they'd fire a missile at Israel. They are too corrupt and scared to lose their material belongings and assets in this life to do that.
The way of a coward is to attack someone who won't or can't fight back.
 
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