Iran nukes could stabilize region

[Xestan]

In reality if any one of you ever bothered to sit down with a Saudi official you will know that KSA is in no way shape or form a full fledged American ally.

I do however I admit than from 1985-2003 KSA was by all intents and purposes an American proxy in the region and I will not deny this fact for a second. However most choose to not look at the current state of things and instead focus on the past.

I agree with you, man. That's the case with Pakistan too.. we are now coming out of this American alliance, otherwise we were as you were.. I hope every Muslim Country can get rid of these Yankees ASAP. That's actually the main reason for some of the Pakistanis on this forum going hard on Saudi regime.

 

[Albatross]

In reality if any one of you ever bothered to sit down with a Saudi official you will know that KSA is in no way shape or form a full fledged American ally.

I do however I admit than from 1985-2003 KSA was by all intents and purposes an American proxy in the region and I will not deny this fact for a second. However most choose to not look at the current state of things and instead focus on the past.

I really appreciate this acknowledgement of yours but at the same time I would like to have your comment on recent decisions of AIPAC on libya,egypt etc where its decisions were totally in synch with US and israeli desires.

 

[longbrained]

I was just saying to SK should I tell Mossa I am coming for Umra with my mum to Saudi. He told me man he will call legend abu wahtever and ibnwhatsis name and beat you up. So I decided not to pm him lol

Yeah, I guess it is safer you take the side of caution. He could be dropping some danah for you to come down like a pigeon and then he will catch you. He has even cancelled the invitation for me now too. Not safe at all.

 

[Mosamania]

I was not expecting you to break your promise so soon but then that is ok. I guess Aryan_B will throw the party and I will go there. No worries. Drinks on me as always.

Iran has been peaceful. It is KSA that is producing suicide bombers and colluding with Americans and not Iran. Do not shed crocodile tears here. No body believes you any more. Tens of thousands of Pakistanis have been killed because of your ideology.

I really hate it when people bring religion into things in this manner. But let's face it no matter how everyone tries to hide it everyone here is basing their views on Sectarian grounds. I am however glad I am not the follower of any sect.

 

[lem34]

I don't wanna be personal but some of your posts really reflect anti-Saudi-ism. I mean, you should be neutral between Iranians and Saudis.. You know it very well Saudis are as much Anti-Americans as we are.. you cant judge anyone by what their rulers say, can you?

No man contrary to your assertion I believe we Pakistanis owe a debt to Turks, Arabs and Iranians for introducing Islam and our culture to us. I have been brought up to love these as my own people.

I openly admit I have been very upset over the last 11 years at the disproportionate attack on Muslim lands by Americans that have killed so many what they call collateral damage Muslims from Libya to Pakistan so I am anti any Muslim leadership be they Pakistani or any other that are still pro American

Sometimes at the heat of the moment Mossa and his mates do bring the worst in me but then did you see at the beginning of this thread a Saudi calling Pakistan a beggar. What you want me to do when they say that???

 

[longbrained]

Can you give me their name, so I check whether they are guided or unguided?



So, they can't be maintained or replaced. And KSA have a separate military branch named Saudi Strategic Missile Force (RSSMF) with 22,000 for 80 obsolete missiles!? Thank you very much Mr. genius for wide openig my eyes for the harsh reality. Thank you thank you thank you!

The same ones you posted above. Go and check. They are rockets and not missiles. And no they can not be repaired. The air frame life of a missile limits its life span as do critical components such as turbo pumps and deflectors. The only way is to make a new one. Saudis can not do it. Can not import it. And have never tested it. Case closed.

I really hate it when people bring religion into things in this manner. But let's face it no matter how everyone tries to hide it everyone here is basing their views on Sectarian grounds. I am however glad I am not the follower of any sect.

I did not talk religion. I just reminded you of your promise which you have now broken. I was thinking it is going to be a traditional Saudi dinner. Now I know you intended to take me to a burger shop at best case scenario.

 

[lem34]

In reality if any one of you ever bothered to sit down with a Saudi official you will know that KSA is in no way shape or form a full fledged American ally.

I do however I admit than from 1985-2003 KSA was by all intents and purposes an American proxy in the region and I will not deny this fact for a second. However most choose to not look at the current state of things and instead focus on the past.

I really hope you are right bro and your country moves away from Americans and towards Muslims

 

[fd24]

I would take it as an Insult if you do not grace me with your visit brother. Sure we do have our clashes in this forum and all and have polarized views on things however meeting in person is a totally different matter than internet trolling.

Superb post - well respected and appreciated Mosa..

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I really hate it when people bring religion into things in this manner. But let's face it no matter how everyone tries to hide it everyone here is basing their views on Sectarian grounds. I am however glad I am not the follower of any sect.

I sometimes don't know why I even bother.

 

[Mosamania]

I really appreciate this acknowledgement of yours but at the same time I would like to have your comment on recent decisions of AIPAC on libya,egypt etc where its decisions were totally in synch with US and israeli desires.

In Libya Ghaddafi was an Anti-KSA regime. He even tried to assassinate King Abdullah 2 times. So you can clearly see we needed him gone. Actually it was for the best because Libya was also hostile to Egypt and Algeria but now it has embraced its brothers and have become part of us again. So it was actually the right decision to get rid of him and promote unity. Because there is strength in unity.

Israeli desires dictators in its surrounding not the revolutions that are happening now. Even Israeli General said "Assad must not fall" Because they are afraid of what will happen when the governments actually represent the people who hate Israel's guts.

Right now there is a Power Struggle between KSA and US for influence. For Example Qatar Emir hosts the biggest American base because of KSA and to protect him from our influence because he overthrew his father who was a Saudi ally. And there are many such things and details that many people either are ignorant of or choose to ignore.

 

[lem34]

Yeah, I guess it is safer you take the side of caution. He could be dropping some danah for you to come down like a pigeon and then he will catch you. He has even cancelled the invitation for me now too. Not safe at all.

be a man we will go together one day

I really hate it when people bring religion into things in this manner. But let's face it no matter how everyone tries to hide it everyone here is basing their views on Sectarian grounds. I am however glad I am not the follower of any sect.

I am not bringing religion in Mossa believe you me

 

[fd24]

For the first time in a long time i have come onto a thread and there is no bashing no insults and its great to see - incredibly good to see!!

 

[Mosamania]

I sometimes don't know why I even bother.

Yeah it is quite funny actually they are the ones that keep screaming "Your sect thing, your ideology that" and we never reply by using the same manner and in the end WE ARE the sectarian ones.

 

[longbrained]

be a man we will go together one day

Ok, this is how we are going to do it. We go with PGK and will send him in first. If every thing was safe then we go in if not then we will run for our lives.

 

[Mosamania]

For the first time in a long time i have come onto a thread and there is no bashing no insults and its great to see - incredibly good to see!!

When people close their eyes and ears to another person's view point then it is not a debate it is just a screaming contest. And screaming contests are a lot in these forum these days.

Ok, this is how we are going to do it. We go with PGK and will send him in first. If every thing was safe then we go in if not then we will run for our lives.

Don't worry I will get you fat first and then eat you later