Iran intercepts and shoots israeli drone
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Anonymous ? i dont think israel would do it just to hide themselves, in contrast they would write a huge of (MADE IN ISRAEL ) to stick it in people's eyes while it flies. Any else, while that equipment can be recognized from lots of points on it (PCB , on board chips, processors will have some identification at least, or parts of engine ), indentical to itself , why need to hide identification plate on it ?
Seems its shoot down, fall from high altitude and remains intact to be collected, i guess some parts should stay identical inside, thus its useless to remover ID plate to be anonymous
Anonymous refers to the Israeli policy of not taking responsibility for what they have done even though everyone knows it: Assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists, the nuclear Bombs they posses, etc. When you practice that policy you don't leave a made in Israel sign behind because that means you took responsibility.
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Only that Armenian thingie has orange patch on its nose. There are zillion Hermes photos and u will never see that.such a good and informative post
the zionist used the exact same method when iran captured Elbeit hermes 450 & 180 .
looks like he does not cut on spewing the same thing all over .
the orange patchR U kidding me ? what kind of a logic is that ?
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Both Hermes 180 and Hermes 450 have a removable access plate (often painted in different color) on top attached with pins:
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/7/7/8/2337877.jpg
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/uav/hermes_450/hermes_450_1.jpg
http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Hermes-180.jpg
The thing shot down in Iran does not have that top access plate:
http://i4.minus.com/ivl1TLmmtbCZR.jpg
http://i4.minus.com/ibp5USXpTRXGFF.jpg
There is zero evidence that its Hermes. Looks like another Iranian Hermes wannabe.
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I was curious about this thing too , but somehow i didnt talk about this,because they might say i am trolling
IRGC said this thing came from one of our neighbour ( this already has no doubt ,since israel and iran doesnt share border ) and i am pretty sure they didnt tell this with mean of its launched from one of neighbour.
But when we think of altitude and distance from israel to iran , satcom might not be in need to establish communication. Or cant it be fully automated, to reconnaisance in targeted area,and to come back without need of communication?
You have just created a dilemma
1st ,if israel was sure about this UAV would be captured, downed they would delete everything to indicate its israeli made to be anonymous
2nd it is already anonymous since its UAV mission , maybe there were some other flights in earlier those you didnt realize and remains "anonymous" . Israel send it to there,because they were sure it wont be caught,unless otherwise,they didnt plan it to be caught .
3rd i mentioned about equipment , you mention about action . While in action for sure u need stay anonymous,since its intelligence agency duty . But for equipment its not in same way. For many reasons israel also needs those " plates " in somewhere of equipment.
Guy i am not telling this is not israeli ,or such (i dont join in that part of discussion whether its israeli,or whether its shot down ). Just i expected you to say " ok IRGC will show off plate later after investigation " if you are sure about this, but you keep confronting.
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it all depends what material is the body is made of and if engine is fully protected by anti heat material . so before you talk more nonsense read in to it
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İt depends on the fuselage material, coating material, having a low RCS design (like not having vertical wings), general geometry of the aircraft, internal weapons bay, not having a exterior propeller.
But i'm sorry if your generals say it's stealth...it have to be... who am i to critisize......
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hi tech stealth drone
and you didn't try to hijack it
probably a Heron or Eitan
The american drone was hijacked cause it was worth it , unlike any israel drone that has yet to be produced , and it wasn't hijacked by iranians , it was hijacked by russians and the chinese , you saw the chinese copy a year after on this very forum ;
The israeli drone was flown into iran from Kurdistan , in an emotional response to hamas drones being flown into israel ; The american drone RQ-17? was a total different story , it was a multinational effort to take a huge leap in the drone technology.
Not only that , the RQ-17 , was a miniature of the B-2 , with that hijacked the soviets can now work on SAM systems that can bring down the B-2 for good and not by chance like it happened to the F-117 in the balkans
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The very premise that it was shot down by an IRGC sam , reemphasizes the fact that it was not worth hijacking
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Define "Stealth" (f-117 is stealth , f-22 and f-35 are labled the same) ,I'm trolling Iran?
just saying if Israel got some kinda stealth done why they didn't hijack it or at least take some pictures
Iran is a beautiful country with beautiful people
the RQ was a miniature of the B-2 , with that hijacked the B-2 is no longer safe , (The pentagon already has plans to replace the B-2) , the israeli drone was probably just as stealthy as the chinese JF-whatever or stealthy enough for Hamas' Davdi sling not to shoot it down.
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About Hamaseh ?
Non retractable landing gear, Exposed propeller, Vertical wings, Rocket's hanging from the wings..... these all increase the RCS print in the radar.
X-47B, RQ,170.... yes these are stealth.
Anka, Hamaseh, S-129, Heron, Hermes, ,Predator, Bayraktar....these are not. And i have yet to see, except hamaseh any one of these UAVs claimed to be stealth.
Also, yes it depends on the angles, some of the radar waves, being absorbed, some them being emitted back. So shape of the aircraft still plays a role in RCS.
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