Iran fumes as Pakistan embraces a Sunni Islamic Military Alliance

[BHarwana]

lol Iran fumes, seriously Indians have gone mad Pakistani Naval ships are conducting Naval exercises with Iran at this very moment.

 

[waz]

Iran is a brother, I think this story is being hyped up.

 

[skyshadow]

Pakistan Navy ships arrive in Iran on friendly visit
November 30, 2017
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By GEO NEWS
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Pakistan

ISLAMABAD: Two Pakistani Navy (PN) ships, PNS Dehshat and PNS Rahnaward, made a port call to the Iranian port ofBandar Abbas, said a statement released by the PN.

The port visit, scheduled from November20 to 24, is the second visit by PN ship within a span of a year. Rahnaward, a tall training ship and Dehshat, afast attack craft-missile docked into port under the command ofCommander 10th Patrol Craft Squadron Captain Khalid Pervez.

"The visit was aimed to promote peace and' security in the region, enhance maritime collaboration and open new avenues of bilateral cooperation between the two friendly regional navies," said the PN statement.

During the visit, the PN delegation held meetings with the naval and military leadership of Iran on matters of mutual interest.

A reception dinner was also hosted during the visit by CaptPervez onboard PNS Rahnawardwhich was attended by Ambassador of Pakistan Asif Durrani, senior Iranian military and civil officials along with military attaches from China, Poland, Germany and Japan.

The visit of the PN flotilla to Iran demonstrates strengthening of cordial relations between Pakistan and Iran based on mutual respect, shared history and culture, added the statement.

 

[Stryker1982]

Its fine for pakistan to follow its own interest, as long as their is no hostility between Iran and Pak, their shouldn't be any problem here. Both Iran and Pak can't afford having yet another enemy. As neighbours, economic ties have strong potential with both countries totaling over 200 million people.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Iran was offered to join, they rejected - so they cannot keep using the "anti-Shia" argument over and over.

 

[Stryker1982]

Iran was offered to join, they rejected - so they cannot keep using the "anti-Shia" argument over and over.

No they did not, they did not offer any countries who weren't sunni led. Clearly this is directed agaisnt Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebenon for defeating saudi sponsored salafists. Now they are trying to re mobilize.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

No they did not, they did not offer any countries who weren't sunni led. Clearly this is directed agaisnt Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebenon for defeating saudi sponsored salafists. Now they are trying to re mobilize.

One of the conditions for Raheel Sharif becoming chief of the alliance was that Iran would be asked to join. Iran rejected the offer.

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pak...ns-offer-to-join-saudi-led-military-alliance/

 

[AmirPatriot]

One of the conditions for Raheel Sharif becoming chief of the alliance was that Iran would be asked to join. Iran rejected the offer.

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pak...ns-offer-to-join-saudi-led-military-alliance/

It is a Saudi led alliance, not a Pakistani led one. Saudi is the one who invites, and/or the one who brings other countries into the alliance.

 

[Dalit]

Pakistan’s closeness to Saudi Arabia and former army chief Gen Raheel Sharif’s formal appointment as the Islamic Military Counter-Terrorism Coalition commander has left Iran fuming as Tehran asked Islamabad not to support a “sectarian” alliance, The Nation has learnt.

Senior officials at the foreign ministry said Iran had contacted Pakistan to reconsider its decision of spearheading the Saudi-led military alliance.

“They insist it is a Sunni alliance against the Shias. We are struggling to convince them [Iran] that this is an anti-terrorism alliance. They [Iran] are drifting away as we get closer to Saudi Arabia,” one official told The Nation.

He said the diplomatic contacts between Pakistan and Iran were ongoing on the issue and Pakistan hoped to placate Iran in the coming days. “We have assured them that we will quit the alliance if it proves to be sectarian. So far we are planning to eliminate terrorism not any Muslim sect,” the official added.

Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and army chief Qamar Javed Bajwa were in Saudi Arabia this week for talks with the top Saudi leaders on expanding the bilateral relationship.

General Bajwa had earlier visited Iran and held talks with President Hassan Rouhani. The meeting was termed “positive” by the officials on both sides.

Pakistan had allowed Raheel Sharif to command the Saudi Arabia-led military alliance of several Muslim states after a request from Riyadh. The alliance was formed by Saudi Arabia in December 2015 with its headquarters in Riyadh.

Iran had objected to the formation of the alliance fearing it was a Sunni-alliance rather than a Muslim alliance.

Pakistan had also delayed approval-to Raheel Sharif - considering Iran 's objections - for several months before finally giving a nod to the former army chief.

This month, Iranian Ambassador Mehdi Honardoost had said the Saudi Arabia-led military alliance did not have the necessary ingredients of an alliance.

“From the very beginning of its inception there have been a number of ambiguities about they have persisted so far. Saudi authorities have announced that objective of that alliance been fight against terrorism. While Iran , Iraq and Syria the main victims of terrorism are not part of that alliance,” he had told The Nation.

Honardoost said Iran on the basis of non-inference in the internal affairs of other countries, considered presence or non-presence of Pakistan in this alliance as the discretion of Pakistan .

“Joining or quitting the Saudi[-led] alliance depends on Pakistan . But the alliance is contrary to its motto of fighting terrorism,” he maintained.

Another official at the foreign ministry told The Nation that Pakistan had defended the Saudi-alliance in talks with Iran .

“There are misunderstandings but we believe Iran will understand that this alliance is not against them. We have assurances from Saudi Arabia in this regard,” he said. Press attaché at the Iranian Embassy, Abbas Badrifar, said the alliance included only the Sunni-majority states, which damaged its image.

“Pakistan is a sovereign country and can join or quit any alliance but we feel the Saudi coalition is only designed against Shias. It is not an alliance but a Sunni grouping,” he told The Nation.

Badrifar said the victims of terrorism were not members of the coalition and had not even been invited to join the alliance.

“It is a grouping to safeguard Saudi interests. People in Yemen are being massacred by Saudi Arabia itself,” he added.

Defence analyst and former major general Farooq Malik said Pakistan could not support any anti-Iran block as it had friendly relations with the Muslim-majority country.

“Pakistan allowed Raheel Sharif's services to Saudi Arabia for the anti-terrorism alliance. This is not against Iran ,” he said.

Dr Shaheen Akhtar from the National Defence University said Iran was as important to Pakistan as Saudi Arabia so Islamabad should not lose Tehran at any cost.

“Iran does have reservations against the alliance but Pakistan should try to placate them and improve ties with the important neighbour. We cannot have ties with one ally and annoy another friend,” she said.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/I...aces-a-Sunni-Islamic-Military-Alliance-454813

Iran is a superpower like India. Iran doesn’t care Pakistan joining any alliance.

On a more serious note, the only country left fuming is India. LOL at the source.

 

[Sugarcane]

When Iran can have close relationships with the India despite India's close ties with Israel then why it will fumes on Pakistan's ties with Arab countries which are not new? Indian shouldn't wet their chuddies wet unnecessarily, When Pakistan can stay neutral in Yemen and Syria then staying neutral in this alliance will not be difficult. Pakistan staying out of any adventure against Iran is enough for Iran, because to demand something more will cost more as well.

 

[Tom M]

Iran is a superpower like India. Iran doesn’t care Pakistan joining any alliance.

On a more serious note, the only country left fuming is India. LOL at the source.

Why shoot the messenger ??? Rather care about the message. FYI, the source is very much Pakistani, Indian messenger was just republishing it. LOL

http://nation.com.pk/29-Nov-2017/iran-fumes-as-pakistan-embraces-ksa

 

[Clutch]

• Why does everyone expect so much from Pakistan yet never gives pakistan any preference?
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• Why does everyone expect nothing from India yet gives India all the preference?

 

[Tom M]

When Iran can have close relationships with the India despite India's close ties with Israel then why it will fumes on Pakistan's ties with Arab countries which are not new? Indian shouldn't wet their chuddies wet unnecessarily, When Pakistan can stay neutral in Yemen and Syria then staying neutral in this alliance will not be difficult. Pakistan staying out of any adventure against Iran is enough for Iran, because to demand something more will cost more as well.

There is one big, BIG difference. We have diplomatic and business ties with Iran and Israel, but India is still very much non-aligned like we were back in the 50's, 60's, 70's or 80's. But Pakistan just became part of a major military alliance which is directly/indirectly is intended at Iran and I guess everyone here very well know that. Rest you guy's can say whatever that gives you comfort, the reality ain't gonna change.

 

[Clutch]

There is one big, BIG difference. We have diplomatic and business ties with Iran and Israel, but India is still very much non-aligned like we were back in the 50's, 60's, 70's or 80's. But Pakistan just became part of a major military alliance which is directly/indirectly is intended at Iran and I guess everyone here very well know that. Rest you guy's can say whatever that gives you comfort, the reality ain't gonna change.

India is bending over for America. ..
It's faux non-alliance died as Hindutva extremism took over India.

 

[Tom M]

• Why does everyone expect so much from Pakistan yet never gives pakistan any preference?
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• Why does everyone expect nothing from India yet gives India all the preference?

On a simple note, it's because Indian foreign policy are being run by elected representatives independent from the influence from any government/non-government organization in our country.