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I believe some Central Asian country opposed Iran joining the SCO in the last summit. I think it was Kazakhstan if I'm not mistaken.

Nevertheless, I do not understand the value of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization at the moment anyway. You have a bunch of countries with conflicting interests in it. Russia and India have strong economic and military ties, while China and Pakistan are hostile to India. How can China and Pakistan cooperate in security matters with India when they are in open confrontation with each other? That doesn't make much sense. Does it?
the value is same as that of warsaw pact.
technology share , more collaboration on belt and road projects, joint military exercises etc.
If india doesnt join OBOR and attempts to sabotage it , it might lose the membership.
 
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the value is same as that of warsaw pact.
technology share , more collaboration on belt and road projects, joint military exercises etc.
If india doesnt join OBOR and attempts to sabotage it , it might lose the membership.
The Warsaw Pact was a military alliance. They literally invaded Czechoslovakia. Do you see such a military alliance possible between India and Pakistan, for example?

So far, the SCO has been nothing but a useless organization like the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
 
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any source?
Russia backs Iran’s membership in SCO
  1. Politics
July 22, 2020 - 18:34


TEHRAN — Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has voiced his country’s support for Iran’s full membership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

Speaking during a press conference with his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif in Moscow on Tuesday, Lavrov said that Moscow has been supporting Iran’s membership bid to the SCO from the very beginning, IRNA reported.

The Russian foreign minister added that acceptance of Iran’s request requires the unanimous vote by all the member states.

He noted that Moscow will do every effort in this regard.

Zarif said that Iran enjoys all the privileges for full membership at the SCO.

He said that Russia sees no obstacle to Iran’s full membership in the organization.

Iran has currently observer status in the SCO.

Zarif visited Russia on Tuesday in his third trip to the country in the past six months.

Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister for Political Affairs Abbas Araqchi also accompanied him during the visit.

During the visit, Zarif talked with senior Russian leaders, including President Vladimir Putin and Lavrov, on different issues.

MH/PA


https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/450370/Russia-backs-Iran-s-membership-in-SCO

But aren't the Russians delivering S400 to India?
I believe I read on PDF recently that India wants to buy 30 something Migoyan and Sukhoi jet fighters and Russia has agreed to sell them to India.

Just transactional.

Also, Wikipedia might have not been updated lately, but I don't see Turkey as an applicant for membership in the SCO. And they're a NATO member as well. They are a dialogue partner though.

Fed up with EU, Erdogan says Turkey could join Shanghai bloc

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...turkey-could-join-shanghai-bloc-idUSKBN13F0CY
 
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The Warsaw Pact was a military alliance. They literally invaded Czechoslovakia. Do you see such a military alliance possible between India and Pakistan, for example?

So far, the SCO has been nothing but a useless organization like the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
India at SCO could be like Turkey at crossroads with its peers in NATO..India can not veto SCO initiatives.

However i agree Russia forcing India upon the organization has thwarted Beijing's attempts at building influence in post soviet republics.
 
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I believe some Central Asian country opposed Iran joining the SCO in the last summit. I think it was Kazakhstan if I'm not mistaken.

Nevertheless, I do not understand the value of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization at the moment anyway. You have a bunch of countries with conflicting interests in it. Russia and India have strong economic and military ties, while China and Pakistan are hostile to India. How can China and Pakistan cooperate in security matters with India when they are in open confrontation with each other? That doesn't make much sense. Does it?
I think it was Tajikistan.
 
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What was their reason to oppose Iranian membership i wonder?
I didn't Google it or anything so don't quote me on this but I think it was because their is a law in the SCO that countries under international UN sanctions cannot become full member and that was why one of the countries objected to full Iranian membership.
 
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India at SCO could be like Turkey at crossroads with its peers in NATO..India can not veto SCO initiatives.

However i agree Russia forcing India upon the organization has thwarted Beijing's attempts at building influence in post soviet republics.

The main difference is that NATO cannot kick out Turkey while SCO can kick out India.

I didn't Google it or anything so don't quote me on this but I think it was because their is a law in the SCO that countries under international UN sanctions cannot become full member and that was why one of the countries objected to full Iranian membership.

Correct.

Now that UN sanctions on Iran are going to be history, Iran will become a full member of SCO.

I think it was Tajikistan.

No.

Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are part of Russia's CSTO. They will never say No if Russia says Yes.

Yeah. I had already seen that on Wikipedia, but that's from 2016 and we are in 2020 and yet Turkey hasn't applied for membership in the SCO yet.

Turkey wanted to build its defences (S-400s etc) before it joins SCO.

Russia, China give green light after Ankara highlights SCO option

https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomac...reen-light-after-ankara-highlights-sco-option
 
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I didn't Google it or anything so don't quote me on this but I think it was because their is a law in the SCO that countries under international UN sanctions cannot become full member and that was why one of the countries objected to full Iranian membership.
I know you said you didn't want to be quoted on this, but no. That's a different issue. Russia and China passed a resolution in 2012 that countries under UN sanctions cannot join the SCO to block Iran from becoming a full member. After the JCPOA, the UN sanctions were lifted but still there was one country in 2016 that opposed Iran joining the SCO. I said it was Kazakhstan, but I think vi-va is right and it was Tajikistan.

Tajikistan has recently turned her back on Iran and joined the pro-Saudi countries against Iran. The Rouhani administration ignored them and dumped them and they tried to side with the Saudis to take revenge for that.
 
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I know you said you didn't want to be quoted on this, but no. That's a different issue. Russia and China passed a resolution in 2012 that countries under UN sanctions cannot join the SCO to block Iran from becoming a full member. After the JCPOA, the UN sanctions were lifted but still there was one country in 2016 that opposed Iran joining the SCO. I said it was Kazakhstan, but I think vi-va is right and it was Tajikistan.

Tajikistan has recently turned her back on Iran and joined the pro-Saudi countries against Iran. The Rouhani administration ignored them and dumped them and they tried to side with the Saudis to take revenge for that.

As I said in my above post, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are part of Russia's CSTO. They will never say No if Russia says Yes.

The reason why Iran was not accepted earlier is due to two reasons:

1) UN Sanctions (which will be lifted now)

2) Lack of agreement on using Caspian Sea resources (which has also been resolved now)

Now Russia has not only supported Iran's membership publicly but it has asked other members to do so.
 
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As I said in my above post, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are part of Russia's CSTO. They will never say No if Russia says Yes.

The reason why Iran was not accepted earlier is due to two reasons:

1) UN Sanctions (which will be lifted now)

2) Lack of agreement on using Caspian Sea resources (which has also been resolved now)

Now Russia has not only supported Iran's membership publicly but it has asked other members to do so.
I don't care what you say, Tajikistan blocked Iran from becoming a full member in the SCO in 2017. And please stop pretending that you know news or foreign affairs related to Iran better than Iranians.

Kommersant: Tajikistan blocking Iran from full SCO membership
Foreign Ministers from member states in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) will hold a conference in New York. This will be the first meeting with the participation of Indian and Pakistani top diplomats, since both states became full members of this organization this past June. According to Kommersant, Russia hoped to see Iran at the negotiating table, given that after the removal of UN sanctions, Tehran has the right to apply for membership in the SCO.

However, Tajikistan is accusing Tehran of supporting a banned Tajik party, so it is stonewalling Iran from getting SCO membership. Experts interviewed by the newspaper do not rule out financial issues behind the unexpected spat between the two previously closely cooperating states.

Moscow believes that the international role of the SCO will only strengthen if full membership is granted to Iran, which currently has observer status in the organization, the newspaper wrote. That said, there hasn’t been any formal obstacles to changing Tehran’s status since the removal of the sanctions over a year and a half ago.

However, a recent documentary filmed at the request of the Tajik Ministry of Internal Affairs accused Iran of orchestrating a string of terrorist attacks and contract killings in the late 1990s. Tehran rejects all accusations, noting that the information contained in the documentary is not true.

According to Andrey Kazantsev, an expert at the Valdai Club, director of the Analytical Center of the MGIMO Institute for International Studies, the belief that the current spat with Tajikistan is due to financial reasons is "widespread" in Iran. "But I would refrain from calling it anything more than rumors. There is no official evidence, and the charges are very serious," the expert told Kommersant.

Kazantsev suggested another possible reason for the discord between Dushanbe and Tehran is the growing influence of Saudi Arabia, a long-standing adversary of Iran, on Tajikistan’s policies. In 2016, Tajik leader Emomali Rahmon visited Riyadh, calling Saudi Arabia "an important partner" for his country in the Arab world. This spring, the media reported that the Saudis are going to build a parliamentary complex in Dushanbe, which required tearing down several buildings in the center of Dushanbe, including the Iranian embassy, Kommersant wrote.

Source: https://tass.com/pressreview/966496
 
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I don't care what you say, Tajikistan blocked Iran from becoming a full member in the SCO in 2017


Source: https://tass.com/pressreview/966496

You still don't get. Do you?

Tajikistan will never block Iran on its own. Tajikistan blocked on behalf of Russia as Russia wanted a deal on Caspian sea before supporting Iran's entry into SCO.

Now that the Caspian sea issue has been resolved, Russia is supporting and asking other members to support Iran's entry in SCO as full member.

Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and India will not say No if Russia says Yes.
 
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You still don't get. Do you?

Tajikistan will never block Iran on its own. Tajikistan blocked on behalf of Russia as Russia wanted a deal on Caspian sea before supporting Iran's entry into SCO.

Now that the Caspian sea issue has been resolved, Russia is supporting and asking other members to support Iran's entry in SCO as full member.

Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and India will not say No if Russia says Yes.
Please stop quoting me. The issue has been settled. Russia had said yes, Tajikistan said no. And Tajikistan had her own reasons for that, as stated by me and the article. Period.
 
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