Internal and external trolls both failing Pakistanis stand strong.

[VCheng]

Then you support Pakistan's decision when you have already told that it is wrong so means you are not supporting it and have condemned it already.

I support the right of Pakistanis to chose their destiny, whether I agree with it or not. Obviously, I place the country above the person. Pakistanis will reap the rewards if they it right, and pay the price if they get it wrong. I am okay with either outcome.

 

[BHarwana]

I support the right of Pakistanis to chose their destiny, whether I agree with it or not. Obviously, I place the country above the person. Pakistanis will reap the rewards if they it right, and pay the price if they get it wrong. I am okay with either outcome.

That is your problem when you say whether you agree with it or not that means you already have an agenda and you will not change your stance to turth but you will try to change truth.
Don't take it personal just helping you learn truth. To assess anything as truth or false you need to first empty you brain of your personal agenda and motives and only then you can know about the real truth. Pakistan have seen you people hot quite on when you your self committe human rights violations so why will they believe you now?

 

[VCheng]

That is your problem when you say whether you agree with it or not that means you already have an agenda and you will not change your stance to turth but you will try to change truth.
Don't take it personal just helping you learn truth. To assess anything as truth or false you need to first empty you brain of your personal agenda and motives and only then you can know about the real truth. Pakistan have seen you people hot quite on when you your self committe human rights violations so why will they believe you now?

I have a right to my opinion. Confusing this right with an agenda is mere dishonesty on your part brought about by a failure to counter the arguments, that is all.

 

[BHarwana]

I have a right to my opinion. Confusing this right with an agenda is mere dishonesty on your part brought about by a failure to counter the arguments, that is all.

You have a right to your opinion but you having an opinion makes you reject truth I am merely stating that. Because when ever your opinion is in conflict with truth you will choose opinion over truth because you think you have right to opinion

You my friend are a victim of hybrid war see.

 

[VCheng]

You have a right to your opinion but you having an opinion makes you reject truth I am merely stating that. Because when ever your opinion is in conflict with truth you will choose opinion over truth because you think you have right to opinion

You my friend are a victim of hybrid war see.

LOL. That is your opinion. I have mine. We both have an equal right to do so.

 

[BHarwana]

Or you are the hybrid war because you want to value right to opinion over truth.

LOL. That is your opinion. I have mine. We both have an equal right to do so.

I don't have opinion over you. I am an empty glass. Only you have a right to opinion over truth. I don't know truth about you but I only know your opinion is above truth so what are you truth or opinion?

 

[VCheng]

Or you are the hybrid war because you want to value right to opinion over truth.

Or may be you are deluded to peddle the Army's position without any critical thought process?

 

[BHarwana]

Or may be you are deluded to peddle the Army's position without any critical thought process?

No you chose opinion over truth because in opinion you don't have to back your self with evidence but I'm truth you have to back your self with evidence.

When you said you have right to have opinion that meant you want to be part of hybrid war. I am stating logic not opinion because opinion is always a creation of your imagination and truth is the thing called reality which you were trying to achieve with your imaginative opinion. Lol

 

[VCheng]

When you said you have right to have opinion that meant you want to be part of hybrid war.

No.

My right to an opinion is not part of any war. What you say above is dishonest meant to serve your own nefarious agenda. Please feel free to ignore my opinion.

 

[BHarwana]

No.

My right to an opinion is not part of any war. What you say above is dishonest meant to serve your own nefarious agenda. Please feel free to ignore my opinion.

Your right to your opinion is not your right to truth. Opinion is fabrication of thoughts in your head and truth is an event that happened in practical world. If you choose thoughts over reality then where is notion of you being on side of reality when you chosen right to opinion? You have right to think anything you like but say what you think is the truth is not logical and this concludes you are far from reality.

 

[VCheng]

I don't understand what he's trying to say. Is he happy that a part of society will dismiss any news critical of the pak army without assessing it?

Apparently, yes. Surprising? Perhaps not. This is merely the expected result of decades of carefully nurtured indoctrination placing the Army on an unapproachable pedestal while grave problems fester in its foundations. The result are clear.

 

[SQ8]

It goes both ways. While there is strong allegiance to the military and in the context of the post the “trolls” are indeed being left chewing their own words and smart alec facades.. there is still the question of being able to highlight issues and faults of the military including its mismanagement and corruption in finances or in military operations. Because while such faults exist worldwide, this is the Pakistani military and hence every Pakistani has the right to highlight concerns and issues as a taxpayer - and the military is obliged to address these with suitable explanations.

 

[nahtanbob]

I don't know much about him but he wasn't running any campaign against americans.i think you guys started a useless war because there was no wmd.

I am sure he had one. Did anyone believe him he had no WMDs ? I am sure some Iraqi generals and lot of Iraqi civilians were surprised to find out emperor had no clothes (Saddam had no WMDs).

 

[KhanBaba2]

Hi,

I have respect for you---but please spare me the BS---.

Please don't compound on the silliness of your importance of Berkeley---.

Is New Your city important enough for you.
https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/what-happened-to-the-antiwar-movement_n_5a860940e4b00bc49f424ecb

Or you could give me a list of cities more important than New York city. The protests happened in basically every city in the US.

 

[Microsoft]

Visit UC berkeley, or even the S.U at UCLA, there is no muzzle on anyone. It does not make any sense to talk bad about any profession without reason.
There is ample criticism of aspects of military when needed, An American won't shy away from talking about unecessary defence spending, poor VA managmement, Poor rehabilitation program, unnecessary involvement in wars, maybe you haven't noticed massive protests during the vietnam war, right upto the gulf war.
And like Pakistan if United states Military indulged in massive corruption, Shadow governments, Military coups, Dictatorial regimes trampling the constitution of United states, No American would have tolerated that.

This Blashphemy nonsense finds it's value among pakistanis, Americans have shown right through the 5 decades that people can oppose the regime without the fear of disappearing or being constitutionally charged with medieval laws.

Citing a couple of California college campuses as an example! LOL! How did you get that think tank title? Go to UC Berkeley or any Caifornia campus and say there are only 2 genders. See how quickly they put a muzzle on you.