Insulting the President/PM not allowed!

[Indus Falcon]

When one insults the dead, which ever side of the border he might be from; keep in mind that he has met his maker, you have to yet meet yours.

 

[PoKeMon]

While officially classified as a communalist riot, the events of 2002 have been described as a pogrom by many scholars.[16][17] Other independent observers have stated that these events had met the "legal definition of genocide",[18] and called it an instance of state terrorism.[19][20] Still others have said the incidents were tantamount to ethnic cleansing.[21] Instances of mass violence which occurred include the Naroda Patiya massacre that took place directly alongside a police training camp,[22] the Gulbarg Society massacre where Ehsan Jafri, a former parliamentarian, was among those killed, and several incidents in Vadodara city.[23]Martha Nussbaum has said, "There is by now a broad consensus that the Gujarat violence was a form of ethnic cleansing, that in many ways it was premeditated, and that it was carried out with the complicity of the state government and officers of the law."[24]


Allegations of state complicity
Many scholars and commentators have accused the state government of being complicit in the attacks, either in failing to exert any effort to quell the violence or for actively planning and executing the attacks themselves. The United States Department of State ultimately banned Narendra Modi from traveling ot the United States due to his alleged role in the attacks.[citation needed]. These allegations center around several facts. First, the state did little to quell the violence, with attacks continuing well through the Spring. Further, some attackers used voter lists and other documents obtainable only with government assistance in order to target Muslim communities and households. Moreover, the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), as well as many politicians, including Modi, made inflammatory remarks and endorsed strikes, further stoking tensions. Gyanendra Pandey described these attacks as state terrorism, and that they were not riots but "organized political massacres".[19] According to Paul Brass the only conclusion from the evidence which is available points to a methodical Anti-Muslim pogrom which was carried out with exceptional brutality and was highly coordinated.[89]

Leave it, you wont be finding anything better than these
"Many scholars and commentators have accused the state government "
or
"Other independent observers have stated"

Who are these scholars and what is their legality?

Its true because XYZ said so. Is this the best you can come up with?

 

[pursuit of happiness]

While officially classified as a communalist riot, the events of 2002 have been described as a pogrom by many scholars.[16][17] Other independent observers have stated that these events had met the "legal definition of genocide",[18] and called it an instance of state terrorism.[19][20] Still others have said the incidents were tantamount to ethnic cleansing.[21] Instances of mass violence which occurred include the Naroda Patiya massacre that took place directly alongside a police training camp,[22] the Gulbarg Society massacre where Ehsan Jafri, a former parliamentarian, was among those killed, and several incidents in Vadodara city.[23]Martha Nussbaum has said, "There is by now a broad consensus that the Gujarat violence was a form of ethnic cleansing, that in many ways it was premeditated, and that it was carried out with the complicity of the state government and officers of the law."[24]


Allegations of state complicity
Many scholars and commentators have accused the state government of being complicit in the attacks, either in failing to exert any effort to quell the violence or for actively planning and executing the attacks themselves. The United States Department of State ultimately banned Narendra Modi from traveling ot the United States due to his alleged role in the attacks.[citation needed]. These allegations center around several facts. First, the state did little to quell the violence, with attacks continuing well through the Spring. Further, some attackers used voter lists and other documents obtainable only with government assistance in order to target Muslim communities and households. Moreover, the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), as well as many politicians, including Modi, made inflammatory remarks and endorsed strikes, further stoking tensions. Gyanendra Pandey described these attacks as state terrorism, and that they were not riots but "organized political massacres".[19] According to Paul Brass the only conclusion from the evidence which is available points to a methodical Anti-Muslim pogrom which was carried out with exceptional brutality and was highly coordinated.[89]




Jinnah is the "father of the nation" for us .. Insulting Jinnah (or Gandhi or any other great personality) is a violation of Forum rules and may lead to Instant ban ...

Modi , NS or any other politician , are only ordinary politicians and trying to compare them to the founding fathers of our nations is a really stupid thing to do ...

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we are not fighting for modi.. its for PM of india
jiinah / gandhi we dont adore as person .. but Father of nation .. they are themself instition by itself..
no one comparing them cant be
only thning
if you want pak pm / president to be respected despite allegation of rigging elecion and shown by your own NADRA .. shall we still respect sharif ?

When one insults the dead, which ever side of the border he might be from; keep in mind that he has met his maker, you have to yet meet yours.

-- yes its bad.. but does not mean you abuse living perosn and make his life hell

 

[Kurama]

While officially classified as a communalist riot, the events of 2002 have been described as a pogrom by many scholars.[16][17] Other independent observers have stated that these events had met the "legal definition of genocide",[18] and called it an instance of state terrorism.[19][20] Still others have said the incidents were tantamount to ethnic cleansing.[21] Instances of mass violence which occurred include the Naroda Patiya massacre that took place directly alongside a police training camp,[22] the Gulbarg Society massacre where Ehsan Jafri, a former parliamentarian, was among those killed, and several incidents in Vadodara city.[23]Martha Nussbaum has said, "There is by now a broad consensus that the Gujarat violence was a form of ethnic cleansing, that in many ways it was premeditated, and that it was carried out with the complicity of the state government and officers of the law."[24]


Allegations of state complicity
Many scholars and commentators have accused the state government of being complicit in the attacks, either in failing to exert any effort to quell the violence or for actively planning and executing the attacks themselves. The United States Department of State ultimately banned Narendra Modi from traveling ot the United States due to his alleged role in the attacks.[citation needed]. These allegations center around several facts. First, the state did little to quell the violence, with attacks continuing well through the Spring. Further, some attackers used voter lists and other documents obtainable only with government assistance in order to target Muslim communities and households. Moreover, the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), as well as many politicians, including Modi, made inflammatory remarks and endorsed strikes, further stoking tensions. Gyanendra Pandey described these attacks as state terrorism, and that they were not riots but "organized political massacres".[19] According to Paul Brass the only conclusion from the evidence which is available points to a methodical Anti-Muslim pogrom which was carried out with exceptional brutality and was highly coordinated.[89]




Jinnah is the "father of the nation" for us .. Insulting Jinnah (or Gandhi or any other great personality) is a violation of Forum rules and may lead to Instant ban ...

Modi , NS or any other politician , are only ordinary politicians and trying to compare them to the founding fathers of our nations is a really stupid thing to do ...

so, what can i do.....if he ur father of nation...why should i care....and who give this certificate of greatness...
i certify modi is a great man...will that stop u....
if u dont care for ur leaders i do not care...u can call nawaz all u want.i dont care...but we respect our leaders...and dont like to be treated like this...

 

[pursuit of happiness]

is it fine to insult a political part ..? like noora league or blow job party

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criticise dont iinsult...
we joke about our MMS but never abuse ...
its all about respect for institution

 

[Indus Falcon]

Rigging an election is one thing, supporting ethnic cleansing is another.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

While officially classified as a communalist riot, the events of 2002 have been described as a pogrom by many scholars.[16][17] Other independent observers have stated that these events had met the "legal definition of genocide",[18] and called it an instance of state terrorism.[19][20] Still others have said the incidents were tantamount to ethnic cleansing.[21] Instances of mass violence which occurred include the Naroda Patiya massacre that took place directly alongside a police training camp,[22] the Gulbarg Society massacre where Ehsan Jafri, a former parliamentarian, was among those killed, and several incidents in Vadodara city.[23]Martha Nussbaum has said, "There is by now a broad consensus that the Gujarat violence was a form of ethnic cleansing, that in many ways it was premeditated, and that it was carried out with the complicity of the state government and officers of the law."[24]


Allegations of state complicity
Many scholars and commentators have accused the state government of being complicit in the attacks, either in failing to exert any effort to quell the violence or for actively planning and executing the attacks themselves. The United States Department of State ultimately banned Narendra Modi from traveling ot the United States due to his alleged role in the attacks.[citation needed]. These allegations center around several facts. First, the state did little to quell the violence, with attacks continuing well through the Spring. Further, some attackers used voter lists and other documents obtainable only with government assistance in order to target Muslim communities and households. Moreover, the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), as well as many politicians, including Modi, made inflammatory remarks and endorsed strikes, further stoking tensions. Gyanendra Pandey described these attacks as state terrorism, and that they were not riots but "organized political massacres".[19] According to Paul Brass the only conclusion from the evidence which is available points to a methodical Anti-Muslim pogrom which was carried out with exceptional brutality and was highly coordinated.[89]




Jinnah is the "father of the nation" for us .. Insulting Jinnah (or Gandhi or any other great personality) is a violation of Forum rules and may lead to Instant ban ...

Modi , NS or any other politician , are only ordinary politicians and trying to compare them to the founding fathers of our nations is a really stupid thing to do ...

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@Azlan Haider
please reply my question in post no 100 in same thread
thanks

 

[M. Sarmad]

Leave it, you wont be finding anything better than these
"Many scholars and commentators have accused the state government "
or
"Other independent observers have stated"

Who are these scholars and what is their legality?

Its true because XYZ said so. Is this the best you can come up with?

Yes .. Better leave it ... Independent observers , scholars , commentators etc. are all liars and everyone should believe in only what the Modi Fans say ... !! There is no point arguing with a Modi Fan... ... You are free to believe in whatever u want ... But don`t expect that any sane person would agree with your logic ...

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Rigging an election is one thing, supporting ethnic cleansing is another.

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rigging is election is worst crime.. more than ethinic cleasing..
in ethnic cleansing -- you betray one community
in election regining -- you betray WHOLE NATION
and a person who betray nation is called
traitor
ˈtreɪtə/
noun
noun: traitor; plural noun: traitors
a person who betrays someone or something, such as a friend, cause, or principle.

Yes .. Better leave it ... Independent observers , scholars , commentators etc. are all liars and everyone should believe in only what the Modi Fans say ... !! There is no point arguing with a Modi Fan... ... You are free to believe in whatever u want ... But don`t expect that any sane person would agree with your logic ...

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independent observers , scholars , commentators are above UN , SC of india, world institution?
shall i given same scholars remark on jinnah will you accept ?

 

[M. Sarmad]

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@Azlan Haider
please reply my question in post no 100 in same thread
thanks

I already did

shall i given same scholars remark on jinnah will you accept ?

No one except brain dead Hindu fanatics would say that Jinnah was a terrorist ......

 

[pursuit of happiness]

I already did




No one except brain dead Hindu fanatics could say that Jinnah was a terrorist ......

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i never said.. he was ..
but what you called direct action day called by him when we was aware bloodshed will happen

plase give me post number where you replied my psot 22 question thanks

 

[Indus Falcon]

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rigging is election is worst crime.. more than ethinic cleasing..

You have just proved, without the shadow of a doubt, the level of your intellect! Thank You!

 

[M. Sarmad]

but what you called direct action day called by him when we was aware bloodshed will happen

Open a new thread for that , if you want to learn about partition and Jinnah ...

 

[pursuit of happiness]

You have just proved, without the shadow of a doubt, the level of your intellect! Thank You!

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thanks for certificate...
you forget mention about IQ please do

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@WebMaster And what about the head of the states of other countries. Here Pakistani users are always using derogatory words against Indian PM.

Noora sherif is Pakistani prime Minister not Indian PM.. I will mock Noora as much as I want because thats all I can do .
if you like him too much then call him to your country