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PARIS, Feb 10 (Reuters) - Indonesia will order 42 Rafale fighter jets, French Defence Minister Florence Parly, who is currently on a trip to the Asian country, confirmed on Thursday.

"It's official: Indonesia orders 42 Rafales", she said in a Tweet, saying the order would make Indonesia the second state in the region to rely on the jet produced by Dassault Aviation (AM.PA).

Dassault Aviation said the deal marked the start of a long-term partnership and would allow it to rapidly step up its presence in Indonesia.

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The deal comes as Paris, which views itself as a global maritime power, seeks to expand its geopolitical ties in the Indo-Pacific to react to the creation of a new strategic alliance between the U.S., Britain and Australia.

"Indonesia also commits to cooperation with our industry in the sector of submarines," added Parly, referring to an area deemed as particularly sensitive after Australia last year cancelled a multi-billion submarine deal with Paris, causing a major diplomatic rift. read more

"Our strategic partnership will benefit from the deepening of our defence relations," added Parly, commenting on the deal with Indonesia.

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Reporting by Tassilo Hummel; Editing by Sudip Kar-Gupta

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@Indos

Congratulations Indonesian brothers.
 
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Indo defense minister finally won over the finance minister or convinced her
 
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PARIS, Feb 10 (Reuters) - Indonesia will order 42 Rafale fighter jets, French Defence Minister Florence Parly, who is currently on a trip to the Asian country, confirmed on Thursday.

"It's official: Indonesia orders 42 Rafales", she said in a Tweet, saying the order would make Indonesia the second state in the region to rely on the jet produced by Dassault Aviation (AM.PA).

Dassault Aviation said the deal marked the start of a long-term partnership and would allow it to rapidly step up its presence in Indonesia.

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The deal comes as Paris, which views itself as a global maritime power, seeks to expand its geopolitical ties in the Indo-Pacific to react to the creation of a new strategic alliance between the U.S., Britain and Australia.

"Indonesia also commits to cooperation with our industry in the sector of submarines," added Parly, referring to an area deemed as particularly sensitive after Australia last year cancelled a multi-billion submarine deal with Paris, causing a major diplomatic rift. read more

"Our strategic partnership will benefit from the deepening of our defence relations," added Parly, commenting on the deal with Indonesia.

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Reporting by Tassilo Hummel; Editing by Sudip Kar-Gupta



@Indos

False

42 is just MOU, while effective contract is just 6 planes

You can see comment by Prabowo himself, he needs to convince our Planning Minister and Finance Minister for that additional 42 planes.

I have stated many times here that MRCA contract cannot exceed 1.1 billion USD for 2020-2024 period, and it is proven that effective contract is only for 6 planes


Source coming from Prabowo and Parly statement, not interpretation of the media. Stress the world Parly said " Will Order" not Ordered

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ANTARA is Government News Agency

Ministry of Defense signs a contract to purchase six Dassault Rafale aircraft​

Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:01 WIB

 
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Possible Indian order now pushed beyond 2028. Croatia, UAE, Indonesia in line.

False

42 is just MOU, while effective contract is just 6 planes

You can see comment by Prabowo himself, he needs to convince our Planning Minister and Finance Minister for that additional 42 planes.

I have stated many times here that MRCA contract cannot exceed 1.1 billion USD for 2020-2024 period, and it is proven that effective contract is only for 6 planes


Source coming from Prabowo and Parly statement, not interpretation of the media. Stress the world Parly said " Will Order" not Ordered

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ANTARA is Government News Agency

Ministry of Defense signs a contract to purchase six Dassault Rafale aircraft​

Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:01 WIB


Yep.... Only six for now.
 
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Indo defense minister finally won over the finance minister or convinced her

Not yet :D

Finance Minister only approve 1.1 billion USD for MRCA program (2020-2024), and that is the amount of effective contract signed by Prabowo Today for 6 planes and associated equipment and training.
 
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Rafale is a nice plane, a bit of expansive though...
It can't confront the F-35 from Australia, so maybe Indonesia should get some Su-75?
 
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What will the neighbors of Indonesia buy?
 
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Rafale is a nice plane, a bit of expansive though...
It can't confront the F-35 from Australia, so maybe Indonesia should get some Su-75?

For challenging F 35, I believe it is the task of KF21/IFX program.

What will the neighbors of Indonesia buy?

Australia and Singapore are ordering F35, while Malaysia will just order LCA plane, possibly TA 50 Golden Eagle or FA50 variant.

This Rafale order for just 6 planes is for our F5 squadron who previously has 12 F 5 planes, all are already grounded.
 
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For challenging F 35, I believe it is the task of KF21/IFX program.



Australia and Singapore are ordering F35, while Malaysia will just order LCA plane, possibly TA 50 Golden Eagle or FA50 variant.

This Rafale order for just 6 planes is for our F5 squadron who previously has 12 F 5 planes, all are already grounded.
The fact that the US doesn't wanna sell F-35 to muslim states says alot about there fear about muslim countries... They have this strange feeling that they will overtake them which is based on fallacies just because the muslims dominated the world from 650-1923 doesn't mean they still have it in them.. They have been over focussed on them unnecessarily..

Rome never came back to power again why should the muslims? In fact no empire has...

The are unfortunately our biggest believers while these states don't believe in themselves to the extent as they do...... They also have same kind of feelings about the japanese but to a lesser extent
 
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They have no choice. Their biggest enemies are America's Allies. American weapons are useless when war breaks out. They can't fall over to China or Russia, their economies are too weak to withstand the risk of US sanctions.
 
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The fact that the US doesn't wanna sell F-35 to muslim states says alot about there fear about muslim countries... They have this strange feeling that they will overtake them which is based on fallacies just because the muslims dominated the world from 650-1923 doesn't mean they still have it in them.. They have been over focussed on them unnecessarily..

Rome never came back to power again why should the muslims? In fact no empire has...

The are unfortunately our biggest believers while these states don't believe in themselves to the extent as they do.. What can I say I am honored.... They also have same kind of feelings about the japanese but to a lesser extent
I doubt they based anything on religion. More likely that they didnt want to hand top of the line jets to less trustworthy countries.
 
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Not yet :D

Finance Minister only approve 1.1 billion USD for MRCA program (2020-2024), and that is the amount of effective contract signed by Prabowo Today for 6 planes and associated equipment and training.
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:D:D
 
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I doubt they based anything on religion. More likely that they didnt want to hand top of the line jets to less trustworthy countries.

Exactly and you are only doubtful and untrusting about these you view and see as potential competitors even if they sre not direct competition but you see these as potential competitors.. They never stopped believing
 
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Exactly and you are only doubtful and untrusting about these you view and see as potential competitors even if they sre not direct competition but you see these as potential competitors..
What? The US sees any sale to them as liability, not threat. I dont know where you are getting this from.
 
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What? The US sees any sale to them as liability, not threat. I dont know where you are getting this from.

How come it become a liability ?, explain.....
 
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