Indonesia denies Requesting US for MV-22 Osprey Aircraft

[vi-va]

https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/indonesia-cleared-to-buy-eight-mv-22-ospreys/139166.article

Sorry, wrong link,

edit:
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/27379/Indonesia_denies_Requesting_US_for_MV_22_Osprey_Aircraft

Thanks for point out @Raphael

 

[vi-va]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indonesia-might-buy-v-22sthe-reason-is-china.675108/

What's a hoax. US Fake News again and again.

@Reashot Xigwin

Yep. Especially when Australia and US tried everything they can to help East Timor on independence. You are less informed. Sorry for you.

Let me get this straight.

V-22 cracked frequently. Very expensive, maintenance nightmare, benefit–cost ratio (BCR) very bad.

US defense projects:
A:over budget
B: delayed
C:malfunction
D:All the options above

 

[Nilgiri]

https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/indonesia-cleared-to-buy-eight-mv-22-ospreys/139166.article

What has your title got to do with the article?

Indonesia cleared to buy eight MV-22 Ospreys

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

What has your title got to do with the article?

Indonesia cleared to buy eight MV-22 Ospreys

It's already on the DCSA it's pretty much confirmed & waiting for delivery.

 

[Nilgiri]

It's already on the DCSA it's pretty much confirmed & waiting for delivery.

But his title for this thread is:

Indonesia denies Requesting US for MV-22 Osprey Aircraft

...so wtf?

 

[Raphael]

Seems you posted the wrong link bro

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/27379/Indonesia_denies_Requesting_US_for_MV_22_Osprey_Aircraft

Indonesia denies Requesting US for MV-22 Osprey Aircraft
The Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has refuted a United States Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announcement that it had requested to buy eight Bell-Boeing MV-22 Block C Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft for $2 Billion.

Secretary General of the Indonesian MoD, Donny Ermawan Taufanto asserted that there were no plans to purchase the MV-22 Osprey adding that there is a possibility that it (the announcement) was only a one-sided claim from the US.

"No, we are not there yet to plan (purchase) the Osprey aircraft," Taufanto, told reporters after a working meeting with the House of Representatives Commission in Jakarta, Wednesday.

Donny said that the Ministry of Defense now prioritizes domestic-made products in the purchase of defense equipment. While possible (to purchase foreign equipment), he said he would use (prefer) domestic aircraft.

"Maybe it could be like that, I don't know yet, but the point is we are not yet buying there (the Ospreys)," he emphasized.

The DSCA had announced July 7 that the Government of Indonesia has requested to buy eight (8) MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft including engines, radars and related equipment amounting to US$2 Billion.

The DSCA delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today. The prime contractors will be Bell Textron Inc., Amarillo, Texas and The Boeing Company, Ridley Park, Pennsylvania, the announcement read.

The proposed sale of aircraft and support will enhance Indonesia’s humanitarian and disaster relief capabilities and support amphibious operations. This sale will promote burden sharing and interoperability with U.S. Forces, the DSCA statement on the announcement had said.

Osprey caricature in TNI colors on social media
From the DSCA announcement, it is clear that the request to buy has come from Indonesia. But with Taufanto’s denial, a lot of questions now arise.

Soon after the announcement, images of the Osprey caricature in TNI (Indonesian Air Force) colours appeared on social media. Some US based media reports said the Osprey buy was to help the TNI counter China.

The Indonesian air force has been cutting down on defence procurement due to budgetary constraints. It has put off replacing old fighter jets and helicopters.


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I remember the US also fabricated reports about Turkey ditching S-400 for Patriot missiles. The US used to rely on innate quality and technological edge to sell its systems, now it has to resort to fake news after its military-industrial complex became increasingly dysfunctional. Sign of the times.

Anyway the defense cooperation between US and Indo is limited by mistrust. US has to be willing to sell F-35s to Indons first before it can tempt them with lesser quality junk. But F-35 is reserved for US white and honorary white (e.g. Japan, Singapore) allies. They simply don't trust dark-skinned people to operate complex 5th-gen aircraft.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Seems you posted the wrong link bro

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/27379/Indonesia_denies_Requesting_US_for_MV_22_Osprey_Aircraft

Indonesia denies Requesting US for MV-22 Osprey Aircraft
The Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has refuted a United States Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announcement that it had requested to buy eight Bell-Boeing MV-22 Block C Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft for $2 Billion.

Secretary General of the Indonesian MoD, Donny Ermawan Taufanto asserted that there were no plans to purchase the MV-22 Osprey adding that there is a possibility that it (the announcement) was only a one-sided claim from the US.

"No, we are not there yet to plan (purchase) the Osprey aircraft," Taufanto, told reporters after a working meeting with the House of Representatives Commission in Jakarta, Wednesday.

Donny said that the Ministry of Defense now prioritizes domestic-made products in the purchase of defense equipment. While possible (to purchase foreign equipment), he said he would use (prefer) domestic aircraft.

"Maybe it could be like that, I don't know yet, but the point is we are not yet buying there (the Ospreys)," he emphasized.

The DSCA had announced July 7 that the Government of Indonesia has requested to buy eight (8) MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft including engines, radars and related equipment amounting to US$2 Billion.

The DSCA delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today. The prime contractors will be Bell Textron Inc., Amarillo, Texas and The Boeing Company, Ridley Park, Pennsylvania, the announcement read.

The proposed sale of aircraft and support will enhance Indonesia’s humanitarian and disaster relief capabilities and support amphibious operations. This sale will promote burden sharing and interoperability with U.S. Forces, the DSCA statement on the announcement had said.

Osprey caricature in TNI colors on social media
From the DSCA announcement, it is clear that the request to buy has come from Indonesia. But with Taufanto’s denial, a lot of questions now arise.

Soon after the announcement, images of the Osprey caricature in TNI (Indonesian Air Force) colours appeared on social media. Some US based media reports said the Osprey buy was to help the TNI counter China.

The Indonesian air force has been cutting down on defence procurement due to budgetary constraints. It has put off replacing old fighter jets and helicopters.


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I remember the US also fabricated reports about Turkey ditching S-400 for Patriot missiles. The US used to rely on innate quality and technological edge to sell its systems, now it has to resort to fake news after its military-industrial complex became increasingly dysfunctional. Sign of the times.

Anyway the defense cooperation between US and Indo is limited by mistrust. US has to be willing to sell F-35s to Indons first before it can tempt them with lesser quality junk. But F-35 is reserved for US white and honorary white (e.g. Japan, Singapore) allies. They simply don't trust dark-skinned people to operate complex 5th-gen aircraft.

The minister are simply saving faces after Jokowi told them to cut down on foreign expenditures.

If it's on the DSCA it's canon.

 

[striver44]

sigh

https://twitter.com/x/status/1281076397067268096

instead


this kinds reminds me in 2013, when Indonesian defence ministers denied any AH-64 Apache purchase and prefer blackhawks instead, that's not what happened

https://republika.co.id/berita/mi91ul/tni-ad-akan-datangkan-20-unit-helikopter-black-hawk

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

sigh

https://twitter.com/x/status/1281076397067268096

instead


this kinds reminds me in 2013, when Indonesian defence ministers denied any AH-64 Apache purchase and prefer blackhawks instead, that's not what happened

https://republika.co.id/berita/mi91ul/tni-ad-akan-datangkan-20-unit-helikopter-black-hawk

Yeah also about the news that we're not buying the leopard 2s.

Seriously at this case I trust foreign news before I trust our MoD.