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[Nike]

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Chief of the Australian Defence Force, General Angus Campbell, AO, DSC, and Commander of the Indonesian Armed Forces Air Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto with the 2018 Australian Indonesian High Level Committee delegation at RAAF Base Darwin.

Chief of the Australian Defence Force General Angus Campbell, AO, DSC, Commander of the Indonesian Armed Forces Air Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto, Chief of the Australian Air Force Air Marshal Leo Davies, AO, CSC, and personnel from the Indonesian Armed forces currently participating in Exercise Pitch Black 2018 at RAAF Base Darwin.

Commanding Officer of the United States Marine Air Combat Element Lieutenant Colonel Richard Alrarez and Commander Marine Rotational Force - Darwin Colonel James Schnelle with the Commander of the Indonesian Armed Forces Air Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto during the 2018 Australian Indonesian High Level Committee visit at RAAF Base Darwin.

Australian Chief of Air Force, Air Marshal Leo Davies, AO, CSC, address the Commander of the Indonesian Armed Forces, Air Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto and other members of the Australian and Indonesian High Level Committee at Robertson Barracks, during a recent visit to Darwin.

 

[Kansel]

old pics

Ya, its from 2017 if I'm not mistaken

 

[Nike]

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Better to wait for Valor IMHO, Osprey is good but there is operational issue with us

 

[Raduga]

iver huitfeldt size comparison with other western destroyer / cruiser .

a wide hull with 140m length quite make it looks chubby obviously .

 

[trishna_amṛta]

They called it frigate while even with that kind of tonnage they are comparable with

Merely semantic. These days every Navy designating their hull based upon political reason or throw of a dice rather than their actual role. In fact the "frigate" designation has always evolving since their first inception during the age of sail in the late 17th century.

 

[striver44]

iver huitfeldt size comparison with other western destroyer / cruiser .
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a wide hull with 140m length quite make it looks chubby obviously .

Once it entered service the Navy it will be called "destroyer".

Wonder what name it will be , maybe KRI Gajah Mada

 

[Nike]

Once it entered service the Navy it will be called "destroyer".

Wonder what name it will be , maybe KRI Gajah Mada

Still got tonnes of National heroes names can be used

 

[Gen3115]

Once it entered service the Navy it will be called "destroyer".

Wonder what name it will be , maybe KRI Gajah Mada

Probably going to named either after a big island or national hero

 

[Nike]

Probably going to named either after a big island or national hero

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Cruiser class like Sverdlov class being proven to use Big island names, aka KRI IRIAN we got tonnes of big islands. If its Destroyer in the class of Arleigh burke names like Halmahera, Sumbawa, Bangka, Flores, Nias and so on is more suited, if its heavier like Zummwalt the names of Jawa, Sulawesi, Sumatra, Kalimantan and so on is more suited. Itver Huitveld class and the likes should be a frigate and big shot National Heroes names is more appropriate like Sudirman, Hatta, Soekarno Hamengkubuwono IX and the likes

 

[Raduga]

far eastern and western part of indonesia from island , regency and capital city , city , to village name for destroyer are kinda fit , oksibil , agats , morowali , manokwari , merauke , flores , lhoksukon , tolikara , kaimana , karo , nias , yahukimo ,tapanuli , saumlaki , nunukan etc etc .

 

[Ruhnama]

Probably going to named either after a big island or national hero

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So cruiser is 2xx and then CV is ancient kingdom. But why in past some hoakser di tahun awal 2000an pakai nama presiden buat kapal induk?

If we have five heavy cruiser and have more light cruiser are using province name is suitable?

 

[Nike]

Well naming convention should not be bothered as Indonesia is still far cry from having such problem at hands.

Marines corps to own their dedicated SPAAG? In the current set up they are using BVP 2 for such roles, btw why the marines not actively looking for BMP 2 or BVP 2 excess article? Marines Corps is in dire need for Amphibious armor as their third division set up is without armor and the rest is lacking armor in their inventory

 

[striver44]

so alman looks very dissapointed with norinco SPAAG, what's the problem btw.?? any idea @Chestnut

 

[Gen3115]

I am a bit ok with not getting Su-35 because of CAATSA, but I'm a bit worried about the Marines not being able to get stuff because of CAATSA though, will take time for them to transition to NATO standard equipment if they're really forced to

 

[Nike]

so alman looks very dissapointed with norinco SPAAG, what's the problem btw.?? any idea @Chestnut

Mereka bisa muter sendiri out of control, LoL. Thats bad gun by any account. Better to sourced from Switzerland, even Bangladesh a close partner of China bought their new AA gun from Swiss for god sake.

I am a bit ok with not getting Su-35 because of CAATSA, but I'm a bit worried about the Marines not being able to get stuff because of CAATSA though, will take time for them to transition to NATO standard equipment if they're really forced to

Marines corps can find a deal with Bulgarian, Cezch, Ukraina, China or so on for everything its not only Russian can give them. They need not to compete with the army , they need colaboration with the Army, god damn it.