which one is actually more better ? the israeli Elta EL/M-2032 or APG-67 ?
I know, we have no Minister of Defence back then
I'll say EL/M-2032 since it has superior range and detection but i don't care anymore; i just want them properly equipped.
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Hmm thats interesting. The additional changbogo is suspended, and now this? Nothing is coincidence when couple of large project having "trouble". The defense cooperation with sokor has been my interest in the last couple of years due to multiple large project we had with them starting to makassar vessel deal and T50i golden eagle. Sure there are some disagreemant in some other projects but overall both country can have great benefit from economic, industrial and many other aspects. Then in 2019 this article appear about sokor hegemony in favor of US plan to make us relly more to US technology and whatnot.
Hmm thats interesting. The additional changbogo is suspended, and now this? Nothing is coincidence when couple of large project having "trouble". The defense cooperation with sokor has been my interest in the last couple of years due to multiple large project we had with them starting to makassar vessel deal and T50i golden eagle. Sure there are some disagreemant in some other projects but overall both country can have great benefit from economic, industrial and many other aspects. Then in 2019 this article appear about sokor hegemony in favor of US plan to make us relly more to US technology and whatnot.
https://lancerdefense.com/2019/01/2...-dan-hegemoni-teknologi-korea-atas-indonesia/
Now with US withdrew the last 4 avionics components from KFX I wonder if this article still valid. I feel there are something out there trying to disrupt our defense industry relation with sokor and perhaps even our good inter goverment relation with sokor? Hmm interesting...
Don't be suprised if they're going to put brahmos to iver later
I will upload the full article, there's so much information needed in thisSo according to AH latest tweets Indonesia is hoping to receive Brahmos anti-ship missile. When did we buy Brahmos?
Boeing ready for US-RI Osprey deal
Novan Iman Santosa
Jakarta / Sat, July 18 2020 / 01:00 am
Defense and aerospace giant Boeing said it was looking forward to working closely with the United States and Indonesia to finalize a possible US$2 billion deal for Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft. “Congressional notification is an important step in the United States’ Foreign Military Sales [FMS] process, so we’re pleased that a potential V-22 acquisition by Indonesia has entered this phase,” Boeing said in a statement to The Jakarta Post dated July 15. “Currently, the US military is buying the V-22 under the Multiyear Procurement III [MYP III] contract. Completion of this sale in 2020 will allow Indonesia to receive the MYP III pricing already negotiated by the US government for its aircraft.”
https://www.thejakartapost.com/paper/2020/07/17/boeing-ready-for-us-ri-osprey-deal.html
look what US offers , that's clearly a go .Don't be suprised if they're going to put brahmos to iver later
TNI AL Evaluasi Menyeluruh Kondisi Kapal Perang Sudah Tua
Andi Nur Aminah
11 jam yang lalu
© ANTARA/M RISYAL HIDAYATKepala Staf TNI Angkatan Laut (Kasal) Laksamana TNI Yudo Margono
REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, SURABAYA -- Markas Besar TNI Angkatan Laut melakukan evaluasi menyeluruh terhadap armada kapal perang yang dimiliki. Terutama kapal-kapal yang kondisi dan umurnya sudah cukup tua hingga memerlukan penanganan tertentu.
"Evaluasi itu kami lakukan untuk mencegah terjadinya hal-hal yang tidak diinginkan," kata Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (Kasal) Laksamana TNI Yudo Margono kepada pers usai memimpin upacara Prasetya Perwira 323 orang siswa lulusan Pendidikan Pembentukan Perwira (Diktupa) di Kodiklatal, Surabaya, Jumat (17/7).
Pernyataan orang nomor satu di jajaran TNI AL itu menanggapi peristiwa tenggelamnya Kapal Perang Republik Indonesia (KRI) Teluk Jakarta-541 di perairan timur laut Pulau Kangean, Jawa Timur, pada Selasa (14/7) lalu.
Laksamana Yudo Margono menyebut KRI Teluk Jakarta-541 sangat laik layar dan sudah melewati prosedur tetap TNI AL sebelum melakukan pelayaran. Bahkan, kapal perang jenis Frosch buatan Jerman tahun 1973 dan masuk jajaran TNI AL pada 1993 itu sudah naik dok pada April 2020.
"Itu sudah persyaratan standar sebelum berlayar, termasuk kapal itu melaksanakan L1 dan L2 (latihan 1 dan 2). Jadi, semua sisi teknis dan kesiapan sudah terpenuhi," paparnya.
Namun demikian, lanjut Laksamana Yudo Margono, kapal perang itu mendapat musibah dihantam ombak besar saat berada di perairan timur laut Pulau Kangean hingga mengalami kebocoran dan akhirnya tenggelam. Sebanyak 55 anak buah kapal berhasil menyelamatkan diri.
"Dari sisi umur, kapal itu memang sudah cukup tua dan ada kemungkinan-kemungkinan yang timbul. Tetapi, saya tidak membela diri dan itu murni musibah yang tidak bisa dihindari," ujarnya menambahkan.
Untuk itu, demi menghindari peristiwa serupa terulang, Laksamana Yudo Margono telah menginstruksikan jajarannya melaksanakan evaluasi menyeluruh terhadap seluruh kapal perang (KRI) dari kelas sejenis dan jenis lainnya yang saat ini dimiliki dan dioperasionalkan TNI AL.
KRI Teluk Jakarta-541 yang sedang melaksanakan operasi dukungan laut pergeseran logistik ke wilayah timur mengalami kebocoran yang mengakibatkan tenggelam pada kedalaman sekitar 90 meter di perairan timur laut Pulau Kangean, Jatim.
Kadispenal TNI AL Laksamana Pertama TNI M Zaenal mengatakan peristiwa itu terjadi pada Selasa (14/7) pagi sekitar pukul 09.00 WIB ketika gelombang laut di sekitar lokasi saat kejadian cukup tinggi antar 2,5 sampai dengan 4 meter. Seluruh anak buah kapal KRI Teluk Jakarta-541 yang berjumlah 55 orang dalam keadaan selamat.
"54 ABK diselamatkan oleh KM Tanto Sejahtera yang sedang berlayar di posisi 5 NM dari lokasi kejadian, satu ABK lainnya ditolong oleh KM Dobonsolo," tutur Kadispenal.
https://www.msn.com/id-id/berita/na...al-perang-sudah-tua/ar-BB16S1Fw?ocid=msedgntp
I will upload the full article, there's so much information needed in this
Boeing ready for US-RI Osprey deal
Jakarta / Sat, July 18 2020 / 01:00 am
- Novan Iman Santosa
Jakarta
An air crew walks around a V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft in a pre-departure check in this file picture. Defense and aerospace giant Boeing said that it was ready to move forward with the possible sale of the aircraft to Indonesia.(Courtesy of/Boeing)
Defense and aerospace giant Boeing said it was looking forward to working closely with the United States and Indonesia to finalize a possible US$2 billion deal for Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft.
“Congressional notification is an important step in the United States’ Foreign Military Sales [FMS] process, so we’re pleased that a potential V-22 acquisition by Indonesia has entered this phase,” Boeing said in a statement to The Jakarta Post dated July 15.
“Currently, the US military is buying the V-22 under the Multiyear Procurement III [MYP III] contract. Completion of this sale in 2020 will allow Indonesia to receive the MYP III pricing already negotiated by the US government for its aircraft.”
An agency of the US Defense Department, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA), announced on July 6 that the US State Department had “made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Indonesia of eight MV-22 Block C Osprey aircraft and related equipment for an estimated cost of $2 billion”.
“The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today,” the DSCA said in a statement dated July 6.
After the DSCA announced the US State Department’s approval, many in the Indonesian defense establishment said they were unaware of any plan to acquire Osprey. The DSCA announcement of an FMS, however, can only be made after a letter of request is sent by a potential buyer.
In an FMS, a potential buyer negotiates with the US government instead of with defense contractors. One advantage of this method is that the purchase can be included in a US military procurement program that is already underway, often reducing the price for the buyer and increasing interoperability with the US.
Another path to acquiring US primary weapons systems (Alutsista) is through direct commercial sales, in which a foreign buyer negotiates directly with a defense contractor.
In its statement, Boeing identified the Indonesian Army as the Osprey’s potential user.
“The V-22 would enable the Indonesian Army to reach those areas and rapidly respond to crises across Indonesia and the region at large with its own organic aviation assets,” the company said.
“Bell Boeing has been in ongoing discussions with the Indonesian government and Indonesian companies to develop the best possible approach to address requirements pertaining to this Foreign Military Sale in support of TNI-AD and local industry.”
The Osprey was designed and is manufactured jointly by Boeing and helicopter maker Bell.
“The Bell Boeing V-22 has speed, range and vertical lift capabilities unlike any other production aircraft, making it the ideal aircraft for operations across Indonesia,” said Boeing.
“The tilt-rotor’s unique ability to reach areas inaccessible by airplanes while traveling at twice the speed of helicopters is a force multiplier in any type of military operation.”
When asked on Friday about Boeing identifying the Army as the branch of the military that would be using the Osprey, Army chief spokesman Brig. Gen. Nefra Firdaus said he was not aware of the possible procurement of the Osprey.
Separately, Gita Amperiawan, director of technology at state-owned aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI), said there had been no deals on industrial cooperation with Boeing in regard to the possible Osprey deal.
“However, we did sign a memorandum of understanding with Boeing in August 2018 during the visit of then-defense minister Ryamizard Ryacudu to the US,” he told the Post on Thursday.
“We signed a joint development [agreement] on manufacturing technology, maintenance, support, training and certification.”
Gita added that he wanted to develop engineering work packages with Boeing, in which Boeing would pay PT DI employees to work on some of Boeing’s projects both at Boeing’s facilities in the US and at PT DI’s facility in Bandung, West Java.
“This way we can really learn the process and gain the experience and know-how,” he said.
The participation of local industry in arms manufacturing is mandated by Law No. 12/2016 on the defense industry, which stipulates that all Alutsista should be procured locally.
Foreign arms can only be purchased when the local defense industry cannot produce the required Alutsista. Such procurement must be done in cooperation with local defense firms.
The DCSA’s announcement does not necessarily mean that Indonesia will get the Ospreys soon. The agency will have to get the US Congress’ approval within 30 days of the announcement. If there are no objections from Congress, the sale can move forward to contract signing.
