Indonesia Defence Forum

[Chestnut]

Btw, to whoever was wondering about how the M113/M109 deal is the result of corruption, you can read this link. It's blocked by a paywall but the URL should give you a hint of what happened.

https://yosefardi.com/2018/04/tomy-winata-gatot-nurmantyo-and-pt-indocertes/

Tl;Dr Boomers doing boomer things.

 

[LtMaverick]

Btw, to whoever was wondering about how the M113/M109 deal is the result of corruption, you can read this link. It's blocked by a paywall but the URL should give you a hint of what happened.

https://yosefardi.com/2018/04/tomy-winata-gatot-nurmantyo-and-pt-indocertes/

Tl;Dr Boomers doing boomer things.

the political General as always, need sum money for his campaign later, and oh yeah did anyone know any known trouble/problems of the m109 and m113 for the Army, kinda curious what happened why the Cavs reject the m113 and m109 are not kinda active, is it inaccurate like kh-179 problems or any?

and oh yeah, here's some today's joke feel free to laugh

 

[NEKONEKO]

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Cringe and bluepilled.

 

[LtMaverick]

Cringe and bluepilled.

In Case that wasn't enough Here's some more

 

[trishna_amṛta]

There's a lot of seriously misleading info in this article which I'm quite shocked sekelas Jakpost bisa tembus gini artikelnya

It Jakarta Post why do you expect anything better than High School level out of them? In fact most Indonesia medias are roughly the same

 

[Jatosint]

the political General as always, need sum money for his campaign later, and oh yeah did anyone know any known trouble/problems of the m109 and m113 for the Army, kinda curious what happened why the Cavs reject the m113 and m109 are not kinda active, is it inaccurate like kh-179 problems or any?

and oh yeah, here's some today's joke feel free to laugh
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I don't know about NK pilots but several Arab countries did hire NK technicians to help maintaining and repairing their war machine during those wars

It Jakarta Post why do you expect anything better than High School level out of them? In fact most Indonesia medias are roughly the same

I know

Most of our mainstream media have a severe lack of knowledge when it comes to military-related news. That's one of the reasons why I made Jatosint twitter account

 

[LtMaverick]

I don't know about NK pilots but several Arab countries did hire NK technicians to help maintaining and repairing their war machine during those wars



I know

Most of our mainstream media have a severe lack of knowledge when it comes to military-related news. That's one of the reasons why I made Jatosint twitter account

Yeah that's what i heard, but i i believe it was a long time ago, they(the arabians) aren't so good on that too

 

[Kansel]

Any confirmation on this? Or just another hoax?

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[Raduga]

Any confirmation on this? Or just another hoax?

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what should we look for if the IF-X failed ? straightly to the F-35 ?

incase like that happened , would other countries now started to think twice before letting indonesia to co develop / joint their defense project ?

kalo diliat bener bener kelewat ambis sih proyek nya , mau mulai ya kudu dari light fighter dulu , if i remember lapan had light fighter development plan called as Lapan LF-X , that's just my 2cent of opinion .

 

[Nike]

Any confirmation on this? Or just another hoax?

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If I were South Korean side, since last year I would terminate the contract between both sides, and finding lawyer to sue Indonesia government over disrupted in project progress. Financial obligations fulfilment is sacred when doing business!!!

Jokowi administration is very incompetent in this case, whatever reasons they had, once you sign obligations contract you must fulfill it till the end

 

[Raduga]

i usually go to bemil.chosun forum or naver to see about KF-X news and project development , but for now , they did not brag any news about indonesia wanting to give up from the project , let see how it goes .

a big HOWEVER , based on this post about the radar development for KF-X ..... even the korean itself kinda skeptical with their own project .
http://bemil.chosun.com/nbrd/bbs/view.html?b_bbs_id=10040&pn=1&num=94823

https://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?oid=055&aid=0000809333&sid1=100&mode=LSD&mid=shm

 

[Kansel]

@Chestnut perhaps you have any source about Hawk corrupt Procurement? Thanks beforehand

If I were South Korean side, since last year I would terminate the contract between both sides, and finding lawyer to sue Indonesia government over disrupted in project progress. Financial obligations fulfilment is sacred when doing business!!!

Jokowi administration is very incompetent in this case, whatever reasons they had, once you sign obligations contract you must fulfill it till the end

Because in before, we still do many procurement to SK and they (SK) see us as money field for them. that's why they don't kicked us in this project in before.


CMIIW

Anyway, still no plan for shore based AShM? Also i heard we want to change our AShM products, Is that right?

 

[Nike]

Got this picture from Molay facebook page

From so many color available our army keep choosing the black ones, meanwhile the police is more tactical in their choice

 

[striver44]

Got this picture from Molay facebook page

From so many color available our army keep choosing the black ones, meanwhile the police is more tactical in their choice

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khaki blends better in the a destroyed urban environment with there's lots of destroyed concrete

 

[Jatosint]

Will we win the contract and become a (medium) tank exporter country?