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[Raduga]

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so when this thing are going to be delivered ? they should really buy some jet powered target drone to prove NASAMS effectiveness

kinda bored to see news about reducing share of KF-X (hope they wouldn't and korea approved the offer of commodity barter ) , and that 40meter patrol ship with 25knots maximum speed (patroli "Tidak" cepat)

 

[Nike]

Joint team channels assistance to South Halmahera's remote areas
20th Jul 2019 12:20

North Maluku Disaster Management Team distributed logistical assistance to victims of the South Halmahera earthquake by air. (ANTARA / Abdul Fatah)

Ternate, N Maluku (ANTARA) - The North Maluku Disaster Management Joint Team distributed logistical assistance to victims of the South Halmahera earthquake through air and sea routes to expedite the delivery of logistics aid to remote areas.

Coordinator of South Halmahera Disaster Management Colonel Inf Endro Sutoto stated in Ternate on Saturday that the joint team mobilized its resources to reach the location of the disaster victims.

Related news: 54,789 earthquake victims lives in 15 shelters

In fact, BNPB's two helicopters have been deployed to drop logistics, and currently, the KLM Babu Assalam is en voyage to reach locations on the coast along the island of South Halmahera.

He pointed to difficulties in transportation access to distribute logistics, especially on land routes, being hindered owing to the dismal condition of several bridges.

"Hence, the Disaster Management Task Force distributes logistics through all means of transportation that can be used. A dozen trucks have been dispatched to reach villages. Moreover, we use two Dolphine helicopters and BNPB MI-8 for transporting logistics to areas," Sutoto who is the Ternate Military Area Commander said.

Sutoto added that the joint team also distributed aid by sea aboard KLM Babu Assalam to reach the coastal areas.

Related news: Six die in South Halmahera earthquake: BNPB

Meanwhile, in order to offer optimal assistance, the natural disaster management team, led by Ternate Mecial Detachment Lieutenant Colonel Ckm Satria Joni, took stock of the situation by visiting and conducting health services at refugee camps.

In Balitata Village, Gane Barat Sub-district, a team of five medical personnel provided health check-ups and medication for children, as they are highly susceptible to contracting diseases.

In the meantime, Lieutenant Colonel Ckm Satria Joni revealed that as part of the response to handling the natural disaster, they had coordinated with various parties, both from the Health Office and volunteers.

"We offer health services for 1x24 hours. Moreover, we visit refugee camps to check whether health services are running optimally," he stated.

https://m.antaranews.com/en/news/12...s-assistance-to-south-halmaheras-remote-areas


Just knowing BNPB got more than a squadron worth of helicopter fleets to support their activities

 

[Cromwell]

so when this thing are going to be delivered ? they should really buy some jet powered target drone to prove NASAMS effectiveness

kinda bored to see news about reducing share of KF-X (hope they wouldn't and korea approved the offer of commodity barter ) , and that 40meter patrol ship with 25knots maximum speed (patroli "Tidak" cepat)

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Btw from Lockheedmartin.com

Points on why adding Falcons are vital for Indonesia.
Credit to Fb page FSM

Back in 1999 if we " denied & disrupted " INTERFET Forces to entry Timor, RAAF set to airstrike Jakarta and bombed vital targets in our capital.

 

[Nike]

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Btw from Lockheedmartin.comView attachment 570062 View attachment 570064Points on why adding Falcons are vital for Indonesia.
Credit to Fb page FSM

Back in 1999 if we " denied & disrupted " INTERFET Forces to entry Timor, RAAF set to airstrike Jakarta and bombed vital targets in our capital.
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Thats why we need to ensure our Aerial surveillance capability, Maintain a rather large number of fighter fleets and enhance our air defence systems to deter such foolish thinking and be ready for any of such eventuality. There is no eternal friends concept, only interest at play.

Ujicoba alutsista terbaru TNI AU

 

[Cromwell]

Thats why we need to ensure our Aerial surveillance capability, Maintain a rather large number of fighter fleets and enhance our air defence systems to deter such foolish thinking and be ready for any of such eventuality. There is no eternal friends concept, only interest at play.

Ujicoba alutsista terbaru TNI AU

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All exists in Foreign Politics are " Common Interests " on how each parties have their own national interests and bargain to find common mutual interests & if our interests crossing with our counterparts on how to negotiate or counter them sometimes require " teeth ". During Australian Labor Party leadership everything went well especially PM Paul Keating foreign policies to embrace Asia and in 1996 we had common understanding when he met late President Soeharto however when Liberal Party arose, Centre Right leaning PM John Howard won majority in Commons, everything changed. Indeed as maritime & archipelagic states Air Force & Naval developments are important to serve as our " teeth " if necessary

 

[Nike]

Ada yg pesen paket makanan kilat?

 

[Gundala]

Thats why we need to ensure our Aerial surveillance capability, Maintain a rather large number of fighter fleets and enhance our air defence systems to deter such foolish thinking and be ready for any of such eventuality. There is no eternal friends concept, only interest at play.

Ujicoba alutsista terbaru TNI AU

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LOL Food Truck!!! Best alutista ever for me, well since I love food

 

[GraveDigger388]

Thats why we need to ensure our Aerial surveillance capability, Maintain a rather large number of fighter fleets and enhance our air defence systems to deter such foolish thinking and be ready for any of such eventuality. There is no eternal friends concept, only interest at play.

Ujicoba alutsista terbaru TNI AU

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Sooo many tahu

 

[Nike]

Sooo many tahu

Namanya juga uji coba, coba goreng tahu yg banyak

An Air Force need support, they cant fly without ground units

 

[Soman45]

oouuuchhh.....

 

[Cromwell]

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Embarassing isn't it ? In this situation we should develop proper Exit Plan / Plan B if, i mean if the worst scenario happens.

 

[Nike]

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Lack of commitmen, this very embarassing

 

[HellFireIndo]

Whoops, the low R&D budget is probably the main reason, but then the government said that it's more about administration problem, that there's no special budget for this program. However, it's an unofficial ROK Military fanpage, i personally don't find his opinion is of any importance, the matter is more complex than just about this one program, it's about Indonesia-South Korea bilateral relationship as a whole. I will really appreciate a good argument for his opinion, but then "CN-235? no thanks" "sincerely hope that our government cut ties" no shit sherlock, 8 years into this shit and now they play with the words "cuts ties, kicks"? i don't know what he's smoking, but aside of that, apparently he's not that aware at business and diplomatic things.

The President should appoint somebody with a "big name" to handle this program personally, Indonesia-South Korea cooperation must continue and getting stronger by days. By appointing the "right hand" to oversee this program, it will certainly be something of a "guarantee" for them, that they will have someone close to the President that they could talk to in case of problems. We need to be more committed to this, that's for sure, however, "public opinion" of their citizens is not something that we should be thinking about, it doesn't really matter, as the last time there's a "public opinion" about us over the internet, it says that Tarlac-class LPD is too bulky for combat (????). Opinion is opinion, nothing more or less, including my own, don't overthink it.

 

[Cromwell]

Indonesia Devoted Budget for Naval Hydrographic Ships
By Dorian Archus - July 20, 2019022

Indonesia will buy two 90 meter ocean going hydrographic vessels in near future. The Indonesian Ministry of Finance has approved a budget of IDR2.04 trillion (US$143 million) for the procurement of two newbuild hydrographic survey ships for the country’s navy.

The vessels will also be designed to be quickly modified for submarine rescue operations as needed.

Delivery of the two vessels is expected within the 2020-2024 timeframe.

Indonesian plan to buy ocean going hydrographic vessels had been stated in its defense planning since a few years ago. The original idea had raised about 10 year ago. Today operated only three hydrographic vessels, Indonesia have to replace former RN Hecla class with new one.

https://navalnews.net/indonesia-devoted-budget-for-naval-hydrographic-ships/

French OCEA Shipyard made KRI Rigel & KRI Spica are 60 metres length & 11 metres beams however the article mentioned 2 90 metres hydrographic vessels. Let's see in couple months what actually we procure

Whoops, the low R&D budget is probably the main reason, but then the government said that it's more about administration problem, that there's no special budget for this program. However, it's an unofficial ROK Military fanpage, i personally don't find his opinion is of any importance, the matter is more complex than just about this one program, it's about Indonesia-South Korea bilateral relationship as a whole. I will really appreciate a good argument for his opinion, but then "CN-235? no thanks" "sincerely hope that our government cut ties" no shit sherlock, 8 years into this shit and now they play with the words "cuts ties, kicks"? i don't know what he's smoking, but aside of that, apparently he's not that aware at business and diplomatic things.

The President should appoint somebody with a "big name" to handle this program personally, Indonesia-South Korea cooperation must continue and getting stronger by days. By appointing the "right hand" to oversee this program, it will certainly be something of a "guarantee" for them, that they will have someone close to the President that they could talk to in case of problems. We need to be more committed to this, that's for sure, however, "public opinion" of their citizens is not something that we should be thinking about, it doesn't really matter, as the last time there's a "public opinion" about us over the internet, it says that Tarlac-class LPD is too bulky for combat (????). Opinion is opinion, nothing more or less, including my own, don't overthink it.

After 2nd thought indeed that opinion based writtings in Fb page isn't something politicians or diplomats would state regarding this affair. Moreover the situation in field of defense between South Korea & Indonesia is beyond KFX/IFX, it covers many things which actually benefit greatly to South Korea. It's too immature to judge what to happens on KFX/IFX now especially from unofficial Fb page alone.

 

[Indos]

Jokowi look like a person who doesnt have vision on strategic defense program, he should look on China on this matter. China can balance between economy and its strategic indigenous program even since China was still poor. Spending money on military program doesnt hinder China economic development.

The benefit of this strategy (developing indigenous weapon) can only be taken after 10-20 years, particularly the difficult one like building a jet fighter, thats why China now can make so many weapon by himself. It is because its consistency to pure money on many R&D programs since 50 years ago. Its relation to USSR (now Russia) is also helping, on the other hand we have South Korea.

Indonesia defense budget is also not more than 4 percent of our total government spending, much less than Singapore (14 percent) and China (8%). 2 billion USD spending is also an investment that potentially can come back in the future. Rupiah is also getting stronger now. There are many other easy way to retain US dollar like putting more tariff on China steel and let Saudi build our refinery as soon as possible so that our dependency on oil import get reduced.

Demanding barter to pay R&D cost is really ridiculous, it looks like a way to make Indonesia can exit from the program by being kick out by Korean so that this administration cannot be questioned by parliament who support KFX program since the start. If I am not mistaken parliament has already guard the program by regulation that make this administration cannot easily walk out of it.

I think Jokowi listen too much on his economic team thats why this barter idea comes out. Su 35 acquisition is also using barter payment (half) that make the process get more complex and difficult.

As Jokowi voter I am really disappointed on the way he is handling our defense procurement and defense program. Lapan budget has also been cut by him (2020).

Relation with South Korea should also become consideration as this program continuation can improve our strategic relation.

I hope SBY have meeting with Jokowi and discuss about this program. Maybe even better if democrat party can join the government coalition so that it can influence the future of KFX program.