INDIA'S UPCOMING CIVIL WAR

[SIPRA]

If you are 61 then I think I should learn from you my murshad how to deal with aunties

No necessarily. In certain aspects, often "Mureeds" may far excel their "Murshids". This feature is well documented in our mystic literature.

 

[SecularNationalist]

No necessarily. In certain aspects, often "Mureeds" may far excel their "Murshids". This feature is well documented in our mystic literature.

Yes true but my spiritual guidance in that field is not free I charge my fee for sharing my trade secrets and years of expertise
I will shorten your learning curve

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Not really. Actually existence of Bangladesh disproves 2 nation theory. Jinnah’s argument was hindus and muslims could not live together. It turned out muslims and muslims cannot live together in erstwhile undivided Pak because one part of the population (West Pak) did not believe in fairness and give the necessary respect to its east Pak population as accorded in your pre-1971 constitution. So we can confidently say relevance of 2 nation theory can be put to rest. Respect for individual and due process matters.

Previous BJP government under Vajpayee was removed from office after one term through election process. Modi government will see the same fate and democratically removed in the next elections if people believe it is not up to mark.

What are people in India agitating for today ? Despite the new citizenship law not explicitly stating religious discrimination there is a perception among the Indian populace that the very idea of India is being tinkered with - inclusiveness of people irrespective of religion, language or gender. I am not sure whether you will fully understand this concept coming from a state based on religion.

The two are contradicting forces... Islam brings nations, languages in its fold for one unfied brotherhood... ethno-linguistic nationalism are exclusionary forces... The deeper debate is not on Islam's role in keeping everyone together but whether Islam has even been allowed as a bonding force as a state itself... but I'd be going way away from the topic ...

On your second note... India has intrinsic and deep cracks as a state... it's many ethnicities were chugging along in a British construct where state had a very different meaning. Under British any descent was quashed mercilessly and people were cultivated to run afairs of the Raj.

Today, Indians are learning a lesson that was deprived of them... they had sleep walked into post colonial state of India... but one that wasn't run the way British did... the new India was going to be pluralistic, inclusive and tolerant they said... only that the fires of religious, ethnic and linguistic nationalism had seen the day of light some 30 years or so... people are beginning to differentiate their past glory from rest of fictitious construct called India... Punjabis in India see their golden years under Ranjit Singh and Marathas in Shivagi... these and others will start getting traction as Indian state itself pushes hindutva... one exclusionary force will unveil others as it sees failure ... people will grasp at straws on whatever to latch on... it is only the beginning... fissures will become voids as more people will start sticking to other like minded people...

 

[Meliodas]

Which will eventually lead to a civil war assuming indian Muslims have a spine.

Key to civil war lies in the southern states or UP. Civil wars are ignited due to economic reasons and with current population ratio and how its scattered physically, religiously and emotionally I don't think they will be able to start a civil war, if they do they will be crushed. Another important ignition point could be in the northeast, where minerals can play a part.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Guys I have posted this thread in March 2015 and in December 2019 looks like it is going to become a reality.I still remember I gave that thread my own prophetic title after reading that article because I realized all those things will push India towards a bloody civil war.As you can see all indians and few pakistanis made fun of me ,what they would like to say now??
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indias-upcoming-civil-war.364444/

Civil War in India can't take place before an attack on great Britain(and destruction). Because in my opinion, India pakistan are still occupied by our masters.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Civil War in India can't take place before an attack on great Britain(and destruction). Because in my opinion, India pakistan are still occupied by our masters.

Not at all British influence in this region is long gone . To some extent American influence exist but that's got weaker over the past few years.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Not at all British influence in this region is long gone . To some extent American influence exist but that's got weaker over the past few years.

Actually you don't UK yet. The way they shape this world is genius. I mean, it requires little more insight to understand how UK control not only India Pakistan but most of the world. Right from Time(GMT) to Gold prices to Chipsets... All run by UK, not USA.

 

[thesolar65]

Day Dreams!

 

[CIA Mole]

It’s gonna die down.

Bread and water are what controls the people

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Not at all British influence in this region is long gone . To some extent American influence exist but that's got weaker over the past few years.

British influence in the region is now living it's third generation. They built a very good system to run the empire... they cultivated individuals and families all over British Raj, who took the reigns of after British departure. The same paradigm plays in Arab countries. They alloted land and wealth to desirable few...

Pakistani and Indian bureaucracy still retires in London, didn't anyone tell them of free and sovereign states? Their kids go to study in selective institutions and come back interestingly to run the joints... interesting, no?

Pakistani and Indian politicians kids study and often not only take residences there, they take foreign citizenship as well...

English common law still applies to former British colonies...

Police still kills with impunity as they did serving the Raj.

Remotely controlled, I guess...

 

[Adonis]

I think he messed up when he tried to post images lol.Pure coding .

Unfortunately their brains were not big enough to understand the consequences of rejecting Jinnah and his two nation theory.
It's for sure better for them to chant jai Shri ram daily to prove their loyalty to their Hindu masters. And to get raped,insulted and lynched.
1. We gave our Muslims respect better education and self respect. Their brains were big that's why they opt for pakistan and see how they are living their lives vs a Indian Muslim. 2. A formidable nuclear armed country with sixth biggest army .
But shameless people like you will never accept 3. even when the whole world is laughing and cursing at you.

1. Seriously mate ?.... look at the unemployment rate, hunger index, literacy level, general economic conditions in Pakistan and overall perception of Pakistanis in the world, Value of Passport etc.... I beg to differ with your opinion on Self Respect and Better Education..
2. "Formidable" is in question now after India snatched away Kashmir and world didn't even blinked an eye to Pakistan hue and cries.
3. What is whole world ?...the level of support we get in world forums including UN, OIC etc.tells much about what Whole world thinks..... or do you consider only Malaysia and Turkey as the World

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Only if all the Muslims in the sub-continent were little more united and bolder things would have been different!!! And, only if Jinnah were their only leader....

When Gandhi asked Indians not to join the British Army during WW2 at their worst position vis-à-vis the Germans, Jinnah asked the Muslim youth to join the British Army as many as possible!!! He said, "a known enemy is better than an unknown friend"!!! He did that for a couple of reasons. First, he wanted the Muslim youth to be trained as professional soldiers by the British, and whipped to be the war veterans. Second, he knew the Axis power would fail the way they did in WW1. It's a matter of logistics, ideology etc. Third, he could negotiate with the British (+US) establishment to have say on the final arrangement vis-à-vis the British India

For a reason Jinnah repeatedly asked the British he was the sole "spokesperson" for the Muslims in the sub-continent. Those bastards like Maulana Azad, Madani etc. torpedoed his position. Nevertheless, he could negotiate Pak out!!! How much he could have achieved if those bastards had kept quiet!!!! The entire British India would have faced the Civil War like situation with armed cadres on the both sides!!! And, consider that the Cold War had already started with the Soviets across Afghanistan!! Russians are good at geo-politics whether you like it or not!!! They helped the Turkish War of Independence. The British + USA would have never allowed a Muslim resurgence in the sub-continent, and that too with the Russians help. As such, Jinnah would have got what he wanted

The first job of the Indian Muslims now is to take out the skeletons of those sold-out traitor bastards like Azad and Madani from their hell holes, and hang them in public​

 

[SecularNationalist]

1. Seriously mate ?.... look at the unemployment rate, hunger index, literacy level, general economic conditions in Pakistan and overall perception of Pakistanis in the world, Value of Passport etc.... I beg to differ with your opinion on Self Respect and Better Education..
2. "Formidable" is in question now after India snatched away Kashmir and world didn't even blinked an eye to Pakistan hue and cries.
3. What is whole world ?...the level of support we get in world forums including UN, OIC etc.tells much about what Whole world thinks..... or do you consider only Malaysia and Turkey as the World

This is what we call a shameless indian pathetic behavior . Even when your own country is burning with protests,killings and economy is going downhill with hunger, poverty and unemployment you have the audacity to point fingers on others.
Indian talking about Pakistani perception is just ironic. The world see us as a friendly hospitable nation and see you indians as bunch of toiletless uncivilized rapists and call centre ,tech support scammers who defecate in the open.
Lol India didn't snatch anything ,it's the fifth month and can't lift the curfew.And the mess didn't just limit in Kashmir congrats now the whole India is becoming Kashmir .And on top of that Kashmir seriously affected your diplomatic reputation.You are doing a good job of digging your own grave. Foreign Investors are already started to stop investing and pulling out their investments because of possible growing civil unrest in India.
Those were all your wet dreams to malign pakistan image by sponsoring terrorism here and sending losers like kulbashan yadav ,you failed . Now see we are completely out of the mess you tried to create for us and you are entering another long phase of violence and civil unrest.
Soon like Kashmir in all India internet and communication will be blocked and your call center and tech support industry will die ,trust me you will be starving and begging on streets with a bowl in your hand.

 

[xyxmt]

I think he messed up when he tried to post images lol.Pure coding .

I know and he didnt even bother to look at his own post

 

[Adonis]

This is what we call a shameless indian pathetic behavior . Even when your own country is burning with protests,killings and economy is going downhill with hunger, poverty and unemployment you have the audacity to point fingers on others.
Indian talking about Pakistani perception is just ironic. The world see us as a friendly hospitable nation and see you indians as bunch of toiletless uncivilized rapists and call centre ,tech support scammers who defecate in the open.
Lol India didn't snatch anything ,it's the fifth month and can't lift the curfew.And the mess didn't just limit in Kashmir congrats now the whole India is becoming Kashmir .And on top of that Kashmir seriously affected your diplomatic reputation.You are doing a good job of digging your own grave. Foreign Investors are already started to stop investing and pulling out their investments because of possible growing civil unrest in India.
Those were all your wet dreams to malign pakistan image by sponsoring terrorism here and sending losers like kulbashan yadav ,you failed . Now see we are completely out of the mess you tried to create for us and you are entering another long phase of violence and civil unrest.
Soon like Kashmir in all India internet and communication will be blocked and your call center and tech support industry will die ,trust me you will be starving and begging on streets with a bowl in your hand.

You have vented out your frustration above, most of which is your perceptions...hope you are feeling good now. But reality stays there. And I am not an Indian, nor of that origin.

World see you hospitable and friendly?.... on what basis.....because some tourists have said so or some country's leader has said so in a side comment.... reality is...what world leaders say about you openly.....and leave aside investment and trust in so called friendly country from outside, you are struggling to even start international cricket there (you recently did with fortifying your cities..congrats). On terrorism a simple question...why some of the UN designated terrorists and organisations have not been cracked upon despite you being on the verge of black listing in FATF? Shows what world thinks about you and how much your government is serious about the cause. Blaming others for one's failure is the biggest sign of a looser.....

On India, if what you say about India is right, who is stopping you to project the same for India and get it the treatment which India is getting you in the international forum?.....shows how weak your credibility and foreign policy is, isn't it?
Kashmir....do you even deserve to now speak about the cause after what has been done by Pakistan after it's annexation by India?...where is atomic power? most potent army? Islamic bonding with Kashmiri Brothers etc etc?...just few speeches and fake lip services is what you stood up for 70 years?