India's Two-Front War Plans

[Chinese-Dragon]

Nehru didn't use airforce under US pressure. But now will use all we have got, in case. Also, we dont have shortage of friends in international arena.

In 1962, China openly had both the USA and the USSR as our sworn enemies. We had just fought the Korean War against America and all of her allies, and were in the middle of the Sino-Soviet split as well.

Not to mention we were just coming out of the worst famine in our history (1959-1961).

But still, despite being our enemies... neither one came to help you.

India pleaded for US help against China in 1962 - Times Of India

Today, China is a strategic partner of Russia, we even co-founded the SCO with them. We also have the largest bilateral economic relationship in the world with the USA, to the point where they were even proposing the creation of a "G-2" with us. We also happen to be their largest creditor.

Tell me, how has any of this improved in your favour? And lest you forget, it was also the Indian Armed Forces themselves, who said that "India has no hope of matching China".

 

[Black Widow]

So is India lying when they claim that Aksai Chin, Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan belong to them?

I think you miss the word currently. You should know to draw inference from a sentence... Hope this will help you

Inference - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1962, China was openly an enemy of both the USA and the USSR. We had just fought the Korean War against America and all of her allies, and were in the middle of the Sino-Soviet split as well.

Not to mention we were just coming out of the worst famine in our history (1959-1961).

But still, despite being our enemies... neither one came to help you.

Jawaharlal Nehru pleaded for US help against China in 1962 - Times Of India

Today, China is a strategic partner of Russia, we even co-founded the SCO with them. We also have the largest bilateral economic relationship in the world with the USA, to the point where they were even proposing the creation of a "G-2" with us. We also happen to be their largest creditor.

Tell me, how has any of this improved in your favour? And lest you forget, it was also the Indian Armed Forces themselves who said that "India has no hope of matching China".

Typical chinese off topic...

Ignored

 

[OrionHunter]

First provide your Army men with some good night-capable tanks please

'Night capable' tanks? WTF is that? Your terminology is appalling!

I guess you mean tanks having night fighting capabilities. Now let's check that out;

T-90 Fire Control System

> Day-and-night, passive with stabilization of field of view in vertical plane for the commander.
> Night sight passive with stab of field of view for gunner including the use of IR sight.
> A day/night laser beam riding weapons system which makes it possible to fire a guided missile through the gun barrel on the move and at halt against fixed and moving targets at a distance up to 5,000 m and kill the most sophisticated tank long before it comes within the effective range of its weapons systems.

T-72

Day/Night DRAWA-T fire control systems/thermal imagers for the the gunner and commander. (Each Thermal Imaging Fire Control System (TIFCS) costs $500,000 and has been fitted into the entire T-72 fleet).

Arjun

Its superior fire-power is based on accurate and quick target acquisition capability during day and night in all types of weather and shortest possible reaction time during combat engagements.

So don't quack like a duck when you don't know your beans!

Cheers!

 

[Black Widow]

'Night capable' tanks? WTF is that? Your terminology seems to be appalling!

The best way is "Ignore him"

 

[Shinigami]

So is India lying when they claim that Aksai Chin, Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan belong to them?

the entire kashmir was given to us by its king. we dint capture it like u guys did to tibet

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

the entire kashmir was given to us by its king. we dint capture it like u guys did to tibet

Yet strangely, not ONE single country on Earth recognizes Tibet as independent. Even India follows this line.

Whereas Kashmir is internationally recognized as disputed territory in the United Nations.

Tibet is not recognized as disputed territory. Not by the UN, and not by any country on Earth.

 

[Shinigami]

In 1962, China openly had both the USA and the USSR as our sworn enemies. We had just fought the Korean War against America and all of her allies, and were in the middle of the Sino-Soviet split as well.

Not to mention we were just coming out of the worst famine in our history (1959-1961).

all u guys did in 62 was beat a small group of indian border gaurds who were armed with sticks and stones and ran away when the real counter attack came.

Then u guys fliched in the 87 rematch
http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/167488-1986-how-india-china-almost-went-war.html


In 1962 however, there was one indian who had bullets instead of sticks and stones. Do u know what he did?

He killed 300 chinese in 3 days. That’s a record in modern history
Jaswant Singh Rawat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But still, despite being our enemies... neither one came to help you.

India pleaded for US help against China in 1962 - Times Of India

According to reports, Nehru sought aid from the US in these letters, which have been made accessible by the JFK Library in Washington, in the form of air power including fighter aircraft and pilots to handle them and train Indian staff

I agree. we dint even have weapons in 1962. so we pleaded anyone to give us weapons. thats why china won.

but as u know. the situation today is VERY VERY different

 

[sangsharma]

In 1962, China openly had both the USA and the USSR as our sworn enemies. We had just fought the Korean War against America and all of her allies, and were in the middle of the Sino-Soviet split as well.

Not to mention we were just coming out of the worst famine in our history (1959-1961).

But still, despite being our enemies... neither one came to help you.

India pleaded for US help against China in 1962 - Times Of India

Today, China is a strategic partner of Russia, we even co-founded the SCO with them. We also have the largest bilateral economic relationship in the world with the USA, to the point where they were even proposing the creation of a "G-2" with us. We also happen to be their largest creditor.

Tell me, how has any of this improved in your favour? And lest you forget, it was also the Indian Armed Forces themselves, who said that "India has no hope of matching China".

I did not mean USA, but today we can surely trust Russia. I remember what they did to you once.

 

[Shinigami]

Yet strangely, not ONE single country on Earth recognizes Tibet as independent. Even India follows this line.

Whereas Kashmir is internationally recognized as disputed territory in the United Nations.

Tibet is not recognized as disputed territory. Not by the UN, and not by any country on Earth.

thats true because pakistan does EVERYTHING in its power to get kashmir.

wheras no one cares about those poor tibetans

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

but as u know. the situation today is VERY VERY different

Yes, there is a big difference.

Back in 1962, China and India were at a similar level, and India's economy was actually bigger than China's.

Today, China's economy is FOUR times bigger than India's, with commensurate military spending. We have never been in a better position vis-a-vis India, not since the founding of the PRC.

Take a lesson from your own Indian Armed Forces.

'India cannot match China's military force': Indian Naval Chief - IBNLive

Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta has set off a storm by saying India cannot match China military force. Is it a warning from India's military that the government needs to hear?

"In military terms, both conventional and non-conventional, we neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force," said Admiral Sureesh Mehta.

For a nuclear-armed military representing the interests of a billion-plus people, the lack of confidence is quite striking. India's military leadership has made a stunning confession that New Delhi doesn't have the stomach for a fight, if push came to shove on the disputed Sino-Indian boundary.

"Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

Even your own Armed Forces have admitted that "the gap is too wide to bridge, and is getting wider by the day".

 

[Shinigami]

Yes, there is a big difference.

Back in 1962, China and India were at a similar level, and India's economy was actually bigger than China's.

Economy does not play any role in a short skirmish, where only weapons and manpower matters. its relevance comes in an all out war.

Take a lesson from your own Indian Armed Forces.

'India cannot match China's military force': Indian Naval Chief - IBNLive

OMG Even Pakistanis can figure out why he said that.

high IQ my a$$

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

wheras no one cares about those poor tibetans

India needs to be brave for once, and stand by what you believe in.

India should be the very first country in the world to officially recognize Tibetan independence.

Then bribe all the P5 members of the UN to recognize it as a disputed territory (like Kashmir is currently recognized as).

 

[Abhishek_]

Economy does not play any role in a short skirmish, where only weapons and manpower matters. its relevance comes in an all out war.
OMG Even Pakistanis can figure out why he said that.
high IQ my a$$

you'll soon come to realize CD only has a couple of arguments from his supervisor. he is allowed to copy and paste it verbatim regardless of how many times it gets debunked.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

you'll soon come to realize CD only has a couple of arguments from his supervisor. he is allowed to copy and paste it verbatim regardless of how many times it gets debunked.

And yet you have not been able to dispute even a single point.

I'll quote your own Indian Armed Forces once again:

"Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

 

[Abhishek_]

India needs to be brave for once, and stand by what you believe in.

India should be the very first country in the world to officially recognize Tibetan independence.

Then bribe all the P5 members of the UN to recognize it as a disputed territory (like Kashmir is currently recognized as).

you people whine enough for his holiness the dalai lama living in India.