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'India's secret N-submarine project nearing completion'

What if Pakistan got nuke first than Pakistan should also get second capability.

thats your problem if you have any country from whom you face a threat of first strike,like india does from pak.......india wouldn't go nuke first buddy,thats why its called 'no first use policy'
 
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heheh....burning in jealousy,eh???......i already answered a similar post by asim,dont just troll around and go off topic man.....stay away from this thread,if you have nothing to add here

@liberal Pakistani Meant that India always the one who introduce arm race and also use it .Pakistani got no choice to get in the arm race for insuring their freedom.
 
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@liberal Pakistani Meant that India always the one who introduce arm race and also use it .Pakistani got no choice to get in the arm race for insuring their freedom.

you still didn't get why india had to go for the second strike capability,did you???.....if pak had a no first use policy like india,i bet this arms race would slow down greatly!
 
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Does the Indian sub... work?

So far everything India has made, Agnis, Nags, Nagins, Trishul, LCA, Arjun... all didn't work. Only time will tell how well does this work and if the Navy even orders more of these.

Who made this? DRDO?

Most of the system mentioned are in their final phases of development.The future systems based on these projects'll be readily availbale as DRDO crosses the learning curve with these initial projects.We saw it happened incase of ISRO.

I'm sure by end of the next decade noone will raise such questions again.
 
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thats your problem if you have any country from whom you face a threat of first strike,like india does from pak.......india wouldn't go nuke first buddy,thats why its called 'no first use policy'

You must be out of mind Pakistan developed its nuke because of India nukes threads.
 
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you still didn't get why india had to go for the second strike capability,did you???.....if pak had a no first use policy like india,i bet this arms race would slow down greatly!

So you believe that by Indian getting second strike capability Pakistan will stand by and watch Indian to have it.

No n o no no
Pakistan will get the nuclear submarines.
Then what India find third strike option.
 
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but still if we can get U 214 it will be great threat to any indian ship and specially akula,new nuke submarine,kilo submarine because it is very hard to detect U214 and still i believe we need nuke submarine too china also produces it like russian version of typhoon if im taking a right name and india is using a nuke submarine since last 10 years akula on lease from russia it is not first time they have the capability im very surperised pak navy knows that IN has nuke submarine since last 10 years why they did not got atleast 2 for PN any way i hope they will now and it shows agression of india against pakistan how much they eager are to destroy pakistan by nukes if their old nukes of army or of airforce fails they will hit pak from beneath the sea
 
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So you believe that by Indian getting second strike capability Pakistan will stand by and watch Indian to have it.

No n o no no
Pakistan will get the nuclear submarines.
Then what India find third strike option.

ok,you shall get it too!!!....lolz......this is getting ugly now,buddy.....lets get back to the topic
 
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India doesnt use a nuke sub.....it used one in the eighties when we leased one from russia for 3 years,the atv design is based on that sub......we are recieving the akula2 class sub next year,leased for 10 yrs
 
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@liberal Pakistani Meant that India always the one who introduce arm race and also use it .Pakistani got no choice to get in the arm race for insuring their freedom.

why pakistan always want to follow India.tomorrow if we set up a base at moon u will say we have got no choice but to build one even though u can't even fire a satellite on your own.

And btw it was china who introduced arms race in southeast asia. India n china can do that coz they have large economies to support and fulfill their ambitions. Pakistan doesn't have that luxury to spend that much amount. First try to solve your internal problems get US out of your country n when u have those $$$ in billions in your forex exchange you r free to build those nuke subs ,a/c,5gen fighter. As of now u already have a world class navy airforce and army in addition to being a nuclear power.
 
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Type 094 (Jin Class) Nuclear-Powered Missile Submarine



The Type 094 (also referred to as Type 09-IV, NATO reporting name: Jin class) is the PLA Navy’s second-generation nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), succeeding the Type 092 (Xia class) SSBN of a single hull commissioned in 1983. The Type 094 was designed by CSIC’s Wuhan 2nd Ship Design Institute (also known as 719 Institute) in Wuhan, Hubei Province and built by CSIC’s Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. Ltd. (previously known as Bohai Shipyard) in Huludao, Liaoning Province.

Programme

The development of the Type 094 began in the late 1980s to early 1990s, reportedly with assistance of the Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering in St. Petersburg, one of Russia’s primary nuclear submarine designer.

Construction of the first-of-class began in 1999 and the submarine was launched in July 2004. A second hull was launched possibly in 2007 and may be commissioned in 2010. Both submarine have been undergoing sea trials, with no test launching of the ballistic missile from the submarine reported so far. The initial operational capability of the submarines may not come until 2012~2015.

The U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) predicted in December 2006 that the PRC will need to build a total of five Type 094 SSBNs in order to maintain a near-continuous at-sea SSBN presence, with at least one boat available and ready for missile launch at all times.

Satellite images have captured the two Type 094 SSBNs docked at the Bohai Shipyard, and one of the submarines was also spotted inside the PLA Navy’s nuclear submarine base at Xiaopingdao, Liaoning Province. In April 2008, Federation of American Scientists (FAS) website revealed that a Type 094 SSBN has been deployed to a newly-built nuclear submarine base near the city of Sanyang in Hainan Island [1].

Design


Type 094 SSBN (Chinese Internet)

The Type 094 SSBN bears many similarities with the Type 093 Shang class nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN), suggesting that the two submarines share the same design baseline. The submarine features a water-drop shape hull, with a pair of fin-mounted hydroplanes and four diving planes.

The dive displacement of the submarine was estimated to be 8,000~9,000 tonnes. The Type 094 has yet approached the performance and capability of modern Russian and Western SSBN designs, especially in quietness and missile number. However, once fully operational, it will offer the PLA Navy with a much more credible sea-based nuclear retaliation capability than that offered by its predecessor Type 092 Xia class.

Missiles

The Type 094 has the capacity to carry 12 submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). The JuLang 2 SLBM designed and developed by CASIC 4th Academy is a three-stage, solid-propellant strategic ballistic missile. It is a derivation of the land-based DongFeng 31 (DF-31) intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). The maximum range of the JuLang 2 was estimated to be 7,000~8,000km, three times that of the first-generation JuLang 1 SLBM used by the Type 092.

Each JuLang 2 can carry a single thermalnuclear warhead of 25~1,000kt yield. Alternatively, the missile was said to be able to carry three or more 90kT multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRV), though this cannot be confirmed.

Torpedoes

The submarine has six 533mm bow torpedo tubes, and carries a total of 12 Yu-3 (SET-65E) torpedoes, which is equipped with both active and passive homing. The torpedo, with a 205kg warhead, has a maximum range of 15km and a top speed of 40kt. Alternatively, the submarine may carry wake-homing anti-surface torpedoes or wire-homing anti-submarine torpedoes.

Sensors

The submarine is fitted with sophisticated sonar systems, including bow-mounted sonar and H/SQC-207 flank-mounted sonar. Three flank-mounted sonar arrays are clearly visible on the hull of the submarine.

Propulsion

The submarine’s propulsion system is believed to be nuclear, turbo-electric arrangement, consisting of one pressurised water reactor (PWR), with one shaft.

Shiplist

---------- Post added at 08:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:30 PM ----------

this is great option for PN
 
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Type 094 (Jin Class) Nuclear-Powered Missile Submarine



The Type 094 (also referred to as Type 09-IV, NATO reporting name: Jin class) is the PLA Navy’s second-generation nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), succeeding the Type 092 (Xia class) SSBN of a single hull commissioned in 1983. The Type 094 was designed by CSIC’s Wuhan 2nd Ship Design Institute (also known as 719 Institute) in Wuhan, Hubei Province and built by CSIC’s Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry Co. Ltd. (previously known as Bohai Shipyard) in Huludao, Liaoning Province.

Programme

The development of the Type 094 began in the late 1980s to early 1990s, reportedly with assistance of the Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering in St. Petersburg, one of Russia’s primary nuclear submarine designer.

Construction of the first-of-class began in 1999 and the submarine was launched in July 2004. A second hull was launched possibly in 2007 and may be commissioned in 2010. Both submarine have been undergoing sea trials, with no test launching of the ballistic missile from the submarine reported so far. The initial operational capability of the submarines may not come until 2012~2015.

The U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) predicted in December 2006 that the PRC will need to build a total of five Type 094 SSBNs in order to maintain a near-continuous at-sea SSBN presence, with at least one boat available and ready for missile launch at all times.

Satellite images have captured the two Type 094 SSBNs docked at the Bohai Shipyard, and one of the submarines was also spotted inside the PLA Navy’s nuclear submarine base at Xiaopingdao, Liaoning Province. In April 2008, Federation of American Scientists (FAS) website revealed that a Type 094 SSBN has been deployed to a newly-built nuclear submarine base near the city of Sanyang in Hainan Island [1].

Design


Type 094 SSBN (Chinese Internet)

The Type 094 SSBN bears many similarities with the Type 093 Shang class nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN), suggesting that the two submarines share the same design baseline. The submarine features a water-drop shape hull, with a pair of fin-mounted hydroplanes and four diving planes.

The dive displacement of the submarine was estimated to be 8,000~9,000 tonnes. The Type 094 has yet approached the performance and capability of modern Russian and Western SSBN designs, especially in quietness and missile number. However, once fully operational, it will offer the PLA Navy with a much more credible sea-based nuclear retaliation capability than that offered by its predecessor Type 092 Xia class.

Missiles

The Type 094 has the capacity to carry 12 submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). The JuLang 2 SLBM designed and developed by CASIC 4th Academy is a three-stage, solid-propellant strategic ballistic missile. It is a derivation of the land-based DongFeng 31 (DF-31) intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). The maximum range of the JuLang 2 was estimated to be 7,000~8,000km, three times that of the first-generation JuLang 1 SLBM used by the Type 092.

Each JuLang 2 can carry a single thermalnuclear warhead of 25~1,000kt yield. Alternatively, the missile was said to be able to carry three or more 90kT multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRV), though this cannot be confirmed.

Torpedoes

The submarine has six 533mm bow torpedo tubes, and carries a total of 12 Yu-3 (SET-65E) torpedoes, which is equipped with both active and passive homing. The torpedo, with a 205kg warhead, has a maximum range of 15km and a top speed of 40kt. Alternatively, the submarine may carry wake-homing anti-surface torpedoes or wire-homing anti-submarine torpedoes.

Sensors

The submarine is fitted with sophisticated sonar systems, including bow-mounted sonar and H/SQC-207 flank-mounted sonar. Three flank-mounted sonar arrays are clearly visible on the hull of the submarine.

Propulsion

The submarine’s propulsion system is believed to be nuclear, turbo-electric arrangement, consisting of one pressurised water reactor (PWR), with one shaft.

Shiplist

---------- Post added at 08:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:30 PM ----------

this is great option for PN

hmmm,so how does it fare against the akula???......the jian class has 8000tonne displacement,whereas that of atv is 6000tonne(not fully loaded with equipments)......weapon carrying capability is the same for the two.......hypothetically they are comparable to each other,but what do you plan for the akula,which is a beast!!!
 
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common guys...why fighting like ladies or women....:)

it seems two big ladies fighting on the road with eac other and the whole world is enjoying.....dont fight like cats....

discuss constructive...what pakistan will do...what will be india's next step...like that:)
 
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common guys...why fighting like ladies or women....:)

it seems two big ladies fighting on the road with eac other and the whole world is enjoying.....dont fight like cats....

discuss constructive...what pakistan will do...what will be india's next step...like that:)

Seems you are enjoying the fight.
 
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