India’s bid for ‘second strike capability’ to put pressure on Pakistan, says SPD official

[Mr.Nair]

No i dont think that India is Pakistan even i dont think that India is China or USA. I know that economy is one of the most important factor to be a Super Power but for that matter the strong economy should be based on your domestic production. Where are you standing in domestic production or your high industrial based economy as compare to China, Japan, USA or EU. And Soviet Union collapsed because they didnt maintain the balance between their arms and their size of economy. And USA , China and EU have strong industrial base economies to support their military expenditure and R&D. Where as India's Economy is dependent on those developed countries and mind it they will never allow India to challenge their monopoly. USA sustained that they played and playing sensibly and not go as a lone nation. It always gone in an alliance to overcome the consequences of any campaign. And about your claim that only first 3 countries can attain super power status because you are at number 3 in GDP (PPP). but what about GDP (nominal) which actually shows that how much strong economy you have. so you stands at number 9 in GDP (nominal). And Italy, Brazil, Japan, Germany, France, UK, USA and China are ahead of India.
I am sure that if India even stands at 5 in GDP (PPP) you must mentioned that only first 5 countries have the status of Super Power

Have you check the indian GDP nominal figure and gdp PPP?India is GDP PPP as 3rd overtaking Japan and GDP 7th in nominal as Brazil, Russian economies are on negative growth.China's economy mainly depends on exports and they become 2nd biggest economy only because of west.I told that India become a super power in a decade and not now.Don't overestimate China as they are not US, since many chinese villages are still very remote even though they improved their urban infrastructure.China is still a developing country.

Have you people ever bother to check brazil,russian,italy,japan gdp growth rates from recent imf or world bank status?

Pakistani's and chinese approval does not required for our economical status or where we stand on economy, as we are trusting imf,world bank and many prestigious institutions data's rather than certificate from chinese communist party or some members from pdf.

 

[NALANDA]

No i dont think that India is Pakistan even i dont think that India is China or USA. I know that economy is one of the most important factor to be a Super Power but for that matter the strong economy should be based on your domestic production. Where are you standing in domestic production or your high industrial based economy as compare to China, Japan, USA or EU. And Soviet Union collapsed because they didnt maintain the balance between their arms and their size of economy. And USA , China and EU have strong industrial base economies to support their military expenditure and R&D. Where as India's Economy is dependent on those developed countries and mind it they will never allow India to challenge their monopoly. USA sustained that they played and playing sensibly and not go as a lone nation. It always gone in an alliance to overcome the consequences of any campaign. And about your claim that only first 3 countries can attain super power status because you are at number 3 in GDP (PPP). but what about GDP (nominal) which actually shows that how much strong economy you have. so you stands at number 9 in GDP (nominal). And Italy, Brazil, Japan, Germany, France, UK, USA and China are ahead of India.
I am sure that if India even stands at 5 in GDP (PPP) you must mentioned that only first 5 countries have the status of Super Power

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

The raking improved to 7th from 9th. The above link has all the latest data from World Bank, IMF, CIA etc and mots latest data is from IMF as per which India raking in 7th.

What I am highlighting is that....YOU ....JUST.....WAIT.

 

[Mr.Nair]

Oh yes but they are well feed contrary to your indian dribble. That's why the Pakistani race mass produces good looking people and not creatures that resemble ET's offspring or the goblins from lord of the rings.

Yes because of good looking, pakistani's are most unwelcome people on planet with the status equivalent to syrians and afgani's.By the way why good looking people always coming to india for treatment and in our film industry?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Majority of Indian keyboard warriors don't realise the one major killer punch Pakistan nuke program got over Indian one. The whole of Pakistan ballistic missile fleet from NASR to Shaheen 3 are fully integrated into TEL vehicles, meaning they are on constant prowl and next to impossible to be target in preemptive action even America can't neutralise Pakistan nuke force. On Indian side their ballistic missiles are static and can be easily neutralised in preemptive strike. And no, those Indians missiles you see on Indian parade are dragged on trucks, they are not TELs.
India attempt to have sea based nuke capabilty is an attempt to fill this huge gap which exist in comparison to Pakistan as we speak. India fully understand that's it's whole nuke force can be neutralise by Pakistan in first strike, and Dr Samar recent interview in which he mentioned that Indians were trying to move their nuke infra from madras to Andaman in a hope to have their missiles out of reach, for which shaheen 3 was developed.
Indian sea based nuke capability is not yet operational and till that is achived , their nuke status is vulnerable to Pakistan Pakistan first strike, which btw is our declared doctrine.

 

[Mr.Nair]

Majority of Indian keyboard warriors don't realise the one major killer punch Pakistan nuke program got over Indian one. The whole of Pakistan ballistic missile fleet from NASR to Shaheen 3 are fully integrated into TEL vehicles, meaning they are on constant prowl and next to impossible to be target in preemptive action even America can't neutralise Pakistan nuke force. On Indian side their ballistic missiles are static and can be easily neutralised in preemptive strike. And no, those Indians missiles you see on Indian parade are dragged on trucks, they are not TELs.
India attempt to have sea based nuke capabilty is an attempt to fill this huge gap which exist in comparison to Pakistan as we speak. India fully understand that's it's whole nuke force can be neutralise by Pakistan in first strike, and Dr Samar recent interview in which he mentioned that Indians were trying to move their nuke infra from madras to Andaman in a hope to have their missiles out of reach, for which shaheen 3 was developed.
Indian sea based nuke capability is not yet operational and till that is achived , their nuke status is vulnerable to Pakistan Pakistan first strike, which btw is our declared doctrine.

Very few sensible pakistani's

 

[Signalian]

Its amazing how the members here get crazy over one piece of news and want to nuke the hell out of Pakistan and India.

Thankfully, none of you are on a prestigious post in a department which controls the Nuclear weapons of Pakistan or India.

 

[navtrek]

You cannot be a super power untill you resolve all pending disputed issues with your neighbors. Also to be a super power you must have strong voice in UNSC as a permanant member which is also very unlikely.

You are seeing things from the current perspective but that's not how you reach a goal Its a continuous and constant process.

As the Indian economy grows we will have more resources at our disposal and we will also have a greater say India will become a permanent member of UNSC may be not in five years but definitely in the next two decades so we have to keep moving forward with our vision and road map achieve self reliance in critical technologies. And that is what is being done.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes because of good looking, pakistani's are most unwelcome people on planet with the status equivalent to syrians and afgani's.By the way why good looking people always coming to india for treatment and in our film industry?

Couldn't give a toss or care less. Perhaps they go to india to feel better about themselves that they're not the ugliest people on earth. All I really care about is not belonging to or being part of an ugly race of people. Makes me feel physically sick and depressed just thinking about it. Like I said before if you Indians were really confident and believed in your nation's power you would definitely not be here on PDF. I believe in my nation and race that's why I am not, have never been or will ever go to an indian website or forum.

 

[navtrek]

The concept of Mutual Assured Destruction is also theoretical. As we are not aware of exact definition of "destruction" Here ......


Grow up.
Stop believing so much on idealistic statements.......

lol growing up dosent mean stop dreaming. Its a dream of a nation of a billion people we will become one of the super powers in a multi polar world no body can stop that.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You are seeing things from the current perspective but that's not how you reach a goal Its a continuous and constant process.

As the Indian economy grows we will have more resources at our disposal and we will also have a greater say India will become a permanent member of UNSC may be not in five years but definitely in the next two decades so we have to keep moving forward with our vision and road map achieve self reliance in critical technologies. And that is what is being done.

Yes. And you indians are looking at Pakistan from the CURRENT perspective too. With the successful implementation of CPEC and other major economic programs, Pakistan's future is going to change MASSIVELY in the coming 2 decades and beyond.

 

[navtrek]

Like we said earlier.....It wud MAD in reality then. Rest assured.

Bro there is no MAD because India will not attack Pakistan. We don't want occupied Kashmir its you guys who want it.

 

[Photon]

Majority of Indian keyboard warriors don't realise the one major killer punch Pakistan nuke program got over Indian one. The whole of Pakistan ballistic missile fleet from NASR to Shaheen 3 are fully integrated into TEL vehicles, meaning they are on constant prowl and next to impossible to be target in preemptive action even America can't neutralise Pakistan nuke force. On Indian side their ballistic missiles are static and can be easily neutralised in preemptive strike. And no, those Indians missiles you see on Indian parade are dragged on trucks, they are not TELs.
India attempt to have sea based nuke capabilty is an attempt to fill this huge gap which exist in comparison to Pakistan as we speak. India fully understand that's it's whole nuke force can be neutralise by Pakistan in first strike, and Dr Samar recent interview in which he mentioned that Indians were trying to move their nuke infra from madras to Andaman in a hope to have their missiles out of reach, for which shaheen 3 was developed.
Indian sea based nuke capability is not yet operational and till that is achived , their nuke status is vulnerable to Pakistan Pakistan first strike, which btw is our declared doctrine.

If Pakistan felt secure with its TELs, which are considered soft targets btw, because they can be detected via satellites and recon aircrafts, With ability to detect radiation given off by nukes.
Pakistan wouldn't be feeling under pressure.. Because India is deploying SSBNs.

How long did it take for USA to detect Soviet TELs in cuba.. And that happened more than 50 years ago.

 

[Mr.Nair]

Couldn't give a toss or care less. Perhaps they go to india to feel better about themselves that they're not the ugliest people on earth. All I really care about is not belonging to or being part of an ugly race of people. Makes me feel physically sick and depressed just thinking about it. Like I said before if you Indians were really confident and believed in your nation's power you would definitely not be here on PDF. I believe in my nation and race that's why I am not, have never been or will ever go to an indian website or forum.

When you accuse india, we have every right to counter them, whether it is indian defense forum or pdf.This platform is the only way we can mention our arguments against you people.You people coming to india, not because they feel better but because your country do not have that facility be a hospital or in a film industry.Your policy makers, push you people in a North korean way rather than south korea.Ultimately what happened neither your military failed to match indian military might nor able to establish any industrial base.It is not an indian leader told that 'we will eat grass, but will never give up nuclear ambition' which shows desperation.

 

[باپ]

sorry I am quoting your post instead of just tagging you. I do not know how to tag your name as its not in english.

it doesnt matter how many mega tons of nuclear power you have. it only matter if you can "Assuredly" take down the opposite country's nuclear weapons and weapon making facilities as well as nuclear weapons delivery mechanisms from that country.
In fact, having a smaller stockpile makes it even more vulnerable. If you knew which cities in India house those facilities, sending a bunch of cruise missiles will take those down (hypothetically speaking) and then no matter how much India tries, without a nuclear based weapon. conventional forces will not be able to withstand a nuclear threat.

Having a sub that can deliver nuclear weapons makes the assurances even more dependable.

Subs are difficult to track but not impossible. During cold war era both USA and USSR succesfully detected and tracked each other's Nuclear subs. The only place they could hide was under Polar ice cap in the arctic , because the sound of crashing smashing ice masked their sound and rendered them undetectable. Neither India nor Pakistan has such facility and cant go hide under polar ice caps.

 

[Tipu7]

If Pakistan were secure with TEL which are considered soft targets btw, because they can be detected via satellites and recon aircrafts, With ability to detect radiation given off by nukes.
Pakistan wouldn't be feeling under pressure.. Because India is deploying SSBNs.

The highlighted portion indicate that you still have a lot to learn regarding nuclear weapons of Pakistan before acting over smart on such topics

If your elite strategic command thinks the same way, then God bless you ......................