Indian Special Forces

[janon]

That's what he said. He was from IAF.

He said he got trained at manesar. That should be nsg, no ? I.e. apart from him telling me specifically about having served in nsg, rr in the valley, NE. I made sure.

He could be flying C-130s from Manesar. The IAF transports the NSG in helicopters and aircrafts. So that must be what he was doing with the NSG.

I'm guessing it was the same with RR. They have one para qualified unit, which obviously needs a transport aircraft.

 

[Cat Shannon]

He could be flying C-130s from Manesar. The IAF transports the NSG in helicopters and aircrafts. So that must be what he was doing with the NSG.

I'm guessing it was the same with RR. They have one para qualified unit, which obviously needs a transport aircraft.

Could be, yes ! But he didn't look like a c130 pilot to me, he felt and acted pretty much like a nsg commando would.

Maybe he was in garud and just told me nsg.

I think it's quite possible for our special forces to intermingle.

I mean you can't create a unified special forces command just like that without interoperability and synchronization.

I think it's good. It reduces that shady regimental sense of honor among three services. I loathe it, honestly speaking.

 

[janon]

Could be, yes ! But he didn't look like a c130 pilot to me, he felt and acted pretty much like a nsg commando would.

Maybe he was in garud and just told me nsg.

I think it's quite possible for our special forces to intermingle.

I mean you can't create a unified special forces command just like that without interoperability and synchronization.

I think it's good. It reduces that shady regimental sense of honor among three services. I loathe it, honestly speaking.

Is he a pilot at all, in the IAF? I mean, is he a flying officer? If so, it is unlikely that he was in the Garuds. But otherwise, it is possible.

 

[Cat Shannon]

Is he a pilot at all, in the IAF? I mean, is he a flying officer? If so, it is unlikely that he was in the Garuds. But otherwise, it is possible.

No, he wasn't a pilot. That much I am almost 100% certain.

I asked him garud, he said nsg. Twice. There you have it. Even I was surprised a little but I do know that things are not so rigid as they appear on paper between our special forces anymore.

I believe the goal is to "work" towards an Indian socom. That won't work with strict service rules and regimental values of the past.

The right way forward.

I mean, why can't we have a capable guy from coast guard finish the manesar course and get certified along with fellows from army or navy or Air force ? Question is here primarily of money and effectiveness. Why will a coast guard fellow need nsg training ? But to bar him cause he is from coast guard ? I don't see the point. I fail to.

He he...ranting..he wasn't a pilot. He looked the part of a special forces operator. Not a pilot. He talked about patrols and guns and stuff, not planes..

P.S. : we mostly talked politics, local, national..

 

[The_Sidewinder]

Nice read, although not detailed & with pictures collected mostly from facebook. Atleast kudos to the authot for trying.

8 Lesser Known Indian Special Forces That Are Among The Best In The World | india | Indiatimes Mobile

8 Lesser Known Indian Special Forces That Are Among The Best In The World
By Shantanu Prasher | Posted on April 17,
2015

Soon after the Second World War, the need for highly trained soldiers was realised and
thus, the Special Forces were born. While thanks to Hollywood, most of us happen to know about the American Marines, Navy Seal and other American Special Forces are, it’s a
shame we hardly know about most of our own Indian Special Forces. Here’s a list of the Indian Special Forces that rank amongst
the best in the world.
1) MARCOS
MARCOS or Marine Commandos is India’s most lethal special force. Though they are trained to engage in battle on all terrains, MARCOS commandos are experts in maritime warfare. The physical test to join MARCOS is so gruesome that more than 80 percent of the applicants drop out in the first, three-day
long, physical fitness and aptitude test.
Those who successfully complete the test are subjected to a five-week-long process called the ‘hell’s week’ where commandos are put through extreme sleep deprivation coupled with the most difficult physical tasks. These commandos are even capable of firing while
lying down, standing, running full-sprint, even backwards and looking into a mirror – with a
reaction time of 0.27 seconds. The final stages of the training include an 800-meter long thigh-high mud crawl called the ‘death
crawl’, loaded with 25 kg of gear which is concluded with shooting a target 25 meters away with a man standing next to it.

2) Para Commandos:
Para commandos is one of the most highly trained special forces of the Indian Army.
Because of the extremely fatal nature of the operations they perform, they are kept at
optimum level of operational efficiency and physical fitness, and only the most physically
fit, mentally robust, intelligent, and highly motivated soldiers are inducted in the fleet. Para commandos go through the most
grueling commando training regimes in the world, apart from daily 20km runs with 60km
baggage and man-to-man assault practices; they even have to free fall from belligerent heights of as much as 33,500 feet. They are
also highly trained in terrain and environment warfare and deep sea diving. Their most notable and fatal operations included the
1971 war with Pakistan, the 1999 Kargil war
and the infamous Operation Bluestar in 1984.
3) Garud Commando Force:

With over 2000 commandos, the Garud Commando Force is a unit of the Indian Air Force and specializes in Airfield Seizure,
Special Reconnaissance, Airborne Operations,.Air Assault, Special Operations Combat
Search and Rescue, and counter insurgency. The training for being a Garud commando is
so tough that it can take up to 3 years to qualify as a fully operational Garud. Also, Garud commandos are extremely adept at anti-hijack and counter insurgency training, jungle and snow survival techniques,specialized weapon handling and advanced driving skills.
4) Ghatak Force
Ghatak force is a special operations infantry platoon that acts as shock troops and lead
man-to-man assaults ahead of a battalion.
They specialize in raids on enemy artillery positions, airfields, supply dumps and tactical headquarters while also being experts at directing artillery and air attacks on targets
deep within enemy lines. Only the most physically and mentally fit soldiers make it into the Ghatak force which is usually 20-men strong. Since they face the enemy face-to- face, they are trained to be undisputed at heli-borne assault, rock climbing, mountain warfare, demolitions, advanced weapons training, close quarter battle and infantry
tactics.
5) National Security Guard Or Black Cats:
Created in 1986, the NSG or Black Cats fall neither under Central Armed Police Forces
nor under Paramilitary Forces of India. It’s instead a mix of commandos from both the
Indian Army and Central Armed Police Forces which is lead by a ‘Director General’ from the Indian Police Service. Comprising two units –
the Special Action Group (SAG), which consists entirely of Indian Army personnel; and the Special Ranger Groups (SRG) for counter terrorism activities – the NSG is
equipped with some of the most advanced weapons in the world. The selection process is so brutal that it has a dropout rate of 70-80 percent. And the few, who qualify to become NSGs, are sent off to train for another 9 months to become Phantom NSG
Commandos.
6) COBRA (Commando Battalion for Resolute Action):
Commando Battalion for Resolute Action is probably the only Indian special force that is
specifically trained in guerilla warfare to tackle the notorious Naxalite groups in the country. A part of the CRPF, COBRA commandos are masters of camouflage, jungle warfare, parachute jumps, precision
strikes and ambushes. Their sniper units are also one of the best among the armed forces
of India.
7) Special Frontier Force:
Created on 14th November 1962, the SFF is a paramilitary special force which specializes in
special reconnaissance, direct action, hostage rescue, counter-terrorism, unconventional
warfare and covert operations. This specialized force was created in the wake of another Sino-Indian war and it operates in sync with RAW (Research and Analysis Wing).
The commandos are supremely trained in guerrilla tactics mountain and jungle warfare, and parachute jumps.
8.Force One
After the Mumbai terror attacks, the Maharashtra government brought together the best commandos and assembled the youngest Indian special force called Force One. The sole motive of this squad is to protect the Mumbai metropolitan area when under threat. Force One is one of the fastes response teams in the world and can get ready for action in less than 15 minutes From over 3000 applications, 216 of the best soldiers were selected who were then trained under close guidance from the Israeli Special Forces.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

An IAF guy serving in NSG is not something I've heard of before but you met this guy so who am I to question? But and IAF guy serving in RR??

This just doesn't make sense. RR is an IA unit, why would IAF personnel be deputed to it?

Anyway, I can't comment on the validity of these claims because you spoke to the guy and not I, I am just very confused by the whole thing.

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR

NSG,RR and SFF are for Indian Army personnel only.

He could be flying C-130s from Manesar. The IAF transports the NSG in helicopters and aircrafts. So that must be what he was doing with the NSG.

I'm guessing it was the same with RR. They have one para qualified unit, which obviously needs a transport aircraft.

IAF a/cs are not stationed at Manesar and RR dont do airborne operations even slithering is very very rare.

 

[janon]

IAF a/cs are not stationed at Manesar and RR dont do airborne operations even slithering is very very rare.

But they do have one para battalion, right?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

But they do have one paracommando battalion, right?

Yes sir they do.But one SF Company is deployed in Kashmir exclusively for airborne ops.The RR mostly does the foot ops and SG does the cross border raids.

No, he wasn't a pilot. That much I am almost 100% certain.

I asked him garud, he said nsg. Twice. There you have it. Even I was surprised a little but I do know that things are not so rigid as they appear on paper between our special forces anymore.

I believe the goal is to "work" towards an Indian socom. That won't work with strict service rules and regimental values of the past.

The right way forward.

I mean, why can't we have a capable guy from coast guard finish the manesar course and get certified along with fellows from army or navy or Air force ? Question is here primarily of money and effectiveness. Why will a coast guard fellow need nsg training ? But to bar him cause he is from coast guard ? I don't see the point. I fail to.

He he...ranting..he wasn't a pilot. He looked the part of a special forces operator. Not a pilot. He talked about patrols and guns and stuff, not planes..

P.S. : we mostly talked politics, local, national..

It doesnt work that way here in India that a ranger can become pararescue.

What would have happened is that NSG takes crash courses for everyone from Garuds to SWAT teams and your friend will be part of one such crash course.Later he would have got deployed to Kashmir and would have trained in RR's COrps Battle School for a month.

Rest is just boasting.I remember one kashmiri SF operator had told his friends that he was part of 26/11..he wasnt.Sacrificed his life in kupwara with Major Mohit Sharma and his family claimed on tv that he was part of 26/11...they are humans too.

 

[Neptune]

Kudos to SPG. They seem to be well equipped, well trained, well supplied and ready to respond to any threat against Indian PM all around the globe.

 

[Omega007]

Nice read, although not detailed & with pictures collected mostly from facebook. Atleast kudos to the authot for trying.

8 Lesser Known Indian Special Forces That Are Among The Best In The World | india | Indiatimes Mobile


1) MARCOS
MARCOS or Marine Commandos is India’s most lethal special force.

What load of bs,I stopped reading it right after this sentence.MARCOS is "India's most lethal special force!!Yeah right,only if wearing some tight fitting costumes and carrying some shiny gizmos could make one the best SF.

 

[The_Sidewinder]

What load of bs,I stopped reading it right after this sentence.MARCOS is "India's most lethal special force!!Yeah right,only if wearing some tight fitting costumes and carrying some shiny gizmos could make one the best SF.

Hey don't shoot the messenger

Those lines belong to the authors, not mine.

You can sue him if you like.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

What load of bs,I stopped reading it right after this sentence.MARCOS is "India's most lethal special force!!Yeah right,only if wearing some tight fitting costumes and carrying some shiny gizmos could make one the best SF.

I feel like asking people what determines your best?What criteria do you choose?

If its the training then the Army has the best schools..If its the experience then Army has the most experience..if its the bravery then Army has the most awards..if its the weapons Army got the Tavor,M4,Uzi before anyone else..if its the skill then the Army operator serves from siachen to thar..from nsg to UN.

Whats the criteria to name Marcos the best??

Anyways lets not get into this.Everyone knows SG is the cream of the crop and it comprises Para SF operators on deputation from 3-5 years.

Col. S Shekawat of 21 Para was the SG company commander and went on to command 21 Para.

 

[Cat Shannon]

Yes sir they do.But one SF Company is deployed in Kashmir exclusively for airborne ops.The RR mostly does the foot ops and SG does the cross border raids.


It doesnt work that way here in India that a ranger can become pararescue.

What would have happened is that NSG takes crash courses for everyone from Garuds to SWAT teams and your friend will be part of one such crash course.Later he would have got deployed to Kashmir and would have trained in RR's COrps Battle School for a month.

Rest is just boasting.I remember one kashmiri SF operator had told his friends that he was part of 26/11..he wasnt.Sacrificed his life in kupwara with Major Mohit Sharma and his family claimed on tv that he was part of 26/11...they are humans too.

Well, maybe..possible !

 

[Omega007]

Hey don't shoot the messenger

Those lines belong to the authors, not mine.

You can sue him if you like.

My post was not aimed against you,rather it was against the author,do rest assured.

 

[Abingdonboy]

The PM stopped his motorcade outside Delhi airport after arriving back from Canada:

They need to double his SPG detail, the man is a bloody lunatic!