Indian Special Forces

[hkdas]

I dont think so.And mate you are very very wrong.

I cant share classified info but do you know out of the many SF battalions only 1 particular battalion which i wont name is deployed in Kashmir.While other Parachute regtts send their troopers to 32 RR but this particular battalion has 120 operators in the valley always ready for action backed by the only Army SF heli squadron 24/7.Any incident and these guys get heli dropped in the area.

You have very casually taken the term Desert Scorpions but it is not the case.Desert Scorpions have been around deserts always.I have never heard of them getting their location changed and being sent to N-E.Similarly i have never heard 21 SF being sent to rajasthan.Or 9 SF being sent to N-E.I dont read the bullshit which gets posted in WIKI and make it my source of knowledge and i would advice you the same and let me tell you that Desert Scorpions aka The 10th battalion Para Commandos SF are the only ones in Rajasthan.So each time there is an excercise in Rajasthan they are the ones taking part and not the 9PAra or 21 Para.It is not feasable for all SF units to practise raids and the one having the expertise since decades cant be sent to high altitude for them to loose all their skill in raids to learn about high altitude warfare and in the process become jack of all trades.

Obviously they train together and have a common school in Nahan but some units have a particular task given.
From where i see it they have a primary task in war and then a secondary task of CI ops.it is written nowhere in the net and which is something i presume seeing their deployment history.

Lastly about the camo.You were earlier pointing out to the OTA camo saying it might be the new camo and now you are saying that this camo would be the new camo..I am really confused.the other day in Dhoni's show i saw the other camo being worn by the operators.

bro, may be they are testing different camos for the special forces. in this video

you can see many types of camos used by SF. i don't think they will choose UCP as it is criticised even by US army. now they are using MultiCam in Afghanistan.

 

[Gessler]

That camo on the far right...where do they get such stuff?

 

[hkdas]

are you sure they are SF?? Russian army didn't bring any sf for this exercise.

 

[RPK]

 

[RPK]

 

[Gessler]

are you sure they are SF?? Russian army didn't bring any sf for this exercise.

They sure do look like Para commandos.

@Abingdonboy

 

[Abingdonboy]

They sure do look like Para commandos.

@Abingdonboy

they are 100% PARA (SF). look at their cap badges.



Who else could they be? They certainly aren't Russian!

 

[hkdas]

they are 100% PARA (SF). look at their cap badges.



Who else could they be? They certainly aren't Russian!

generally same kind of units conduct joint exercise. they may be regular airborne units of Indian army. the media will report any unit who had a good look as special forces. indian army conducts joint exercise with same type of units(eg. special forces wih special forces, mechanized forces with their counterpart) in this exercise russian army didn't bring their SFs so that photo is of regular paras(airborne).

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

generally same kind of units conduct joint exercise. they may be regular airborne units of Indian army. the media will report any unit who had a good look as special forces. indian army conducts joint exercise with same type of units(eg. special forces wih special forces, mechanized forces with their counterpart) in this exercise russian army didn't bring their SFs so that photo is of regular paras(airborne).

This is Defence forum logic..Kindly do not apply.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

An interesting choice indeed, so the PARAs follow the MARCOs in adopting the US UCP. For naval ops the UCP perhaps makes more sense and for desert ops the UCP is far from ideal but at least they're no longer running around in jungle camo in such conditions!



Also the US SFs didn't seem to have much objection to using such camo patterns in Iraq and Afghanistan:

Typical terrain of Afghanistan....again read abt US soldiers complaints abt the camo being easy for taliban to spot... etc.. and the decision to kill it prematurely.. a failed camo...


https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEkQFjAE&url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2164686/How-U-S-Army-spent-5BILLION-failed-pixel-camouflage--wanted-look-cooler-Marines.html&ei=2vRuUomGDsfW0QX1ioC4CA&usg=AFQjCNHEZ_EBzKi5DRXemTnO_9nC9DwSFg&bvm=bv.55123115,d.bGE

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CEIQFjAD&url=http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/07/camouflage_problems_in_the_army_the_ucp_and_the_future_of_digital_camo_.html&ei=2vRuUomGDsfW0QX1ioC4CA&usg=AFQjCNHTuP80IQ0CpjhMiB8DkVmzSKB3vg&bvm=bv.55123115,d.bGE


https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEkQFjAE&url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2164686/How-U-S-Army-spent-5BILLION-failed-pixel-camouflage--wanted-look-cooler-Marines.html&ei=2vRuUomGDsfW0QX1ioC4CA&usg=AFQjCNHEZ_EBzKi5DRXemTnO_9nC9DwSFg&bvm=bv.55123115,d.bGE



Multicam prefered (like every country):

US soldiers in Afghanistan:

Australian:

coldhearted might not like it but here:

Pakistan:

(Not in full combat dressed )

British:

Polish:

 

[Abingdonboy]

Typical terrain of Afghanistan....again read abt US soldiers complaints abt the camo being easy for taliban to spot... etc.. and the decision to kill it prematurely.. a failed camo...


https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEkQFjAE&url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2164686/How-U-S-Army-spent-5BILLION-failed-pixel-camouflage--wanted-look-cooler-Marines.html&ei=2vRuUomGDsfW0QX1ioC4CA&usg=AFQjCNHEZ_EBzKi5DRXemTnO_9nC9DwSFg&bvm=bv.55123115,d.bGE

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CEIQFjAD&url=http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/07/camouflage_problems_in_the_army_the_ucp_and_the_future_of_digital_camo_.html&ei=2vRuUomGDsfW0QX1ioC4CA&usg=AFQjCNHTuP80IQ0CpjhMiB8DkVmzSKB3vg&bvm=bv.55123115,d.bGE


https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEkQFjAE&url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2164686/How-U-S-Army-spent-5BILLION-failed-pixel-camouflage--wanted-look-cooler-Marines.html&ei=2vRuUomGDsfW0QX1ioC4CA&usg=AFQjCNHEZ_EBzKi5DRXemTnO_9nC9DwSFg&bvm=bv.55123115,d.bGE



Multicam prefered (like every country):

US soldiers in Afghanistan:

Australian:

coldhearted might not like it but here:

Pakistan:

British:

Polish:

It's not as clear cut as that mate. To this day the UCP is STILL the standard camo of the US army and Army SF despite multi-cam being availble. So clearly the UCP has its advantadges in certain enviroments and on certain missions, there is no doubt about that.

Like I've said this UCP camo isn't going to become the IA SF's standard issue camo just ONE of the many patterns they have availble to them- simple as that.


For the IA regulars (grunts and such) they won't ever be issued with the UCP but will be getting new camos in the coming years under the F-INSAS program.

 

[Abingdonboy]

generally same kind of units conduct joint exercise. they may be regular airborne units of Indian army. the media will report any unit who had a good look as special forces. indian army conducts joint exercise with same type of units(eg. special forces wih special forces, mechanized forces with their counterpart) in this exercise russian army didn't bring their SFs so that photo is of regular paras(airborne).

Well that's clearly NOT the case here is it? These are 100% SF. The Indian military employed capabilties and units across the board with a mission-first approach.

Your assertion that militaries ONLY employ similar units in military exercises is clearly flawed as the US sent no SFs to Yudh Abhays 2013 but the IA SF were again present.


Yes it is common for units with similar roles to train together but that doesn't make it a rule.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It's not as clear cut as that mate. To this day the UCP is STILL the standard camo of the US army and Army SF despite multi-cam being availble. So clearly the UCP has its advantadges in certain enviroments and on certain missions, there is no doubt about that.

Like I've said this UCP camo isn't going to become the IA SF's standard issue camo just ONE of the many patterns they have availble to them- simple as that.


For the IA regulars (grunts and such) they won't ever be issued with the UCP but will be getting new camos in the coming years under the F-INSAS program.

The UCP might work for ur navy but indian terrain? makes no sense.. even the US troops in Astan have shifted away to the new culticams.. why coz despite the terrain (which still suites the UCP than deserts,jungles or plains of india) its easy to spot.. the only thing tht stopped the americans was the 5+ billion $ spend on the "failed" UCP.... which has now been replaced:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-hero-project/articles/2013/10/14/the-army-s-5-billion-new-uniform-already-being-replaced.html&ei=vfpuUpr9E7Gg4APL_4DgBg&usg=AFQjCNGfUawqtEqJ5e23X07rarx_2k_F4g&bvm=bv.55123115,d.dmg

 

[Water Car Engineer]

The new US camo would be nice of IA, I think.

Or something little more tan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The new US camo would be nice of IA, I think.

Or something little more tan.

More tan,khaki type uniform.. i guess.