What's new

Indian Political Corner | All Updates & Discussions.

How long do executive orders last ? are they permanent ? There is nothing wrong with Putting bills in parliament. Its really not a crime. Few bills were actually passed in LS, last session and previous two sessions has been extremely productive in contrary to what Arun Shourie had said...



Depends on where they are issued and on what. The reference there was to rely mostly on those orders to get things done where they can do it, not on the bills mentioned. You are missing the point. It is not about putting a few bills in parliament, it is about putting government prestige on line for some bills that you know will be tough getting through. Makes the government look weak & foolish. Getting other stuff done does not exonerate them for this blunder. That would have happened anyways without taking a beating on this. Arun Shourie spoke before the bills were put up & immediately after. It is that very argument of leaving it to the states that the BJP is now talking about. Does make them look incompetent. Whatever you think, the government has take a tremendous beating on these bills. Does not do their credibility much good either. Shourie also spoke on the MAT issue & said that the government was risking looking foolish. With Jaitley now eating humble pie on that, it did make the government look bad.
 
.
lol....the whole Jaitley being Real PM is absolute nonsense...if he was able to sideline RSS and Advani, who is Jaitley to interfere ?

i suggest you don't take that name openly like this , it is dangerous

That is why even i avoid it

It's been clear over the past year and half that the real pm runs the show and the show has been a flop
 
.
Depends on where they are issued and on what. The reference there was to rely mostly on those orders to get things done where they can do it, not on the bills mentioned. You are missing the point. It is not about putting a few bills in parliament, it is about putting government prestige on line for some bills that you know will be tough getting through. Makes the government look weak & foolish. Getting other stuff done does not exonerate them for this blunder. That would have happened anyways without taking a beating on this. Arun Shourie spoke before the bills were put up & immediately after. It is that very argument of leaving it to the states that the BJP is now talking about. Does make them look incompetent. Whatever you think, the government has take a tremendous beating on these bills. Does not do their credibility much good either. Shourie also spoke on the MAT issue & said that the government was risking looking foolish. With Jaitley now eating humble pie on that, it did make the government look bad.


Everybody knew and expected the RS not to function. Last time pre 2004 BJP tried to change education policy, congress came to power and changed it right back because orders passed were not permanent. AS for everything else, its really an opinion.. IF you want to make something permanent it has to be passed in parliament.

i suggest you don't take that name openly like this , it is dangerous
That is why even i avoid it
It's been clear over the past year and half that the real pm runs the show and the show has been a flop

Sorry, but that really is nonsense and does not make any sense at all. How can Jaitley be real PM . YEs Jaitley has connections with media and is close to Modi, but calling him real PM doesn't make much sense at all. He isn't even part of the Lutyans club.. POssibly he has a soft corner for them, something like "honor amongst thieves"
 
.
Everybody knew and expected the RS not to function. Last time pre 2004 BJP tried to change education in NCERT, congress came to power and changed it right back because orders passed were not permanent. AS for everything else, its really an opinion.. IF you want to make something permanent it has to be passed in parliament.

What you are saying suggests either poor reading of the situation by senior ministers or a hidden desire to gets their backsides whipped. The argument on the land bill & others like labour laws etc were to get the states to pass their own bills with the centre supporting it. It would effectively have bypassed the prevailing law & there was nothing any opposition in the RS could have done. You simply don't put the prestige of the government & of the PM who has won such a massive mandate on the line unless you are sure that you can get the bills through.
 
.
Sorry, but that really is nonsense and does not make any sense at all. How can Jaitley be real PM . YEs Jaitley has connections with media and is close to Modi, but calling him real PM doesn't make much sense at all. He isn't even part of the Lutyans club.. POssibly he has a soft corner for them, something like "honor amongst thieves"

Even if all that you said are true his handling of the ministry has been an absolute disappointment so far that should be reason enough for replacement
 
.
What you are saying suggests either poor reading of the situation by senior ministers or a hidden desire to gets their backsides whipped. The argument on the land bill & others like labour laws etc were to get the states to pass their own bills with the centre supporting it. It would effectively have bypassed the prevailing law & there was nothing any opposition in the RS could have done. You simply don't put the prestige of the government & of the PM who has won such a massive mandate on the line unless you are sure that you can get the bills through.

I agree on the land bill and labour laws being passed by the states, if you look at my post history i have always supported it. But then comparing that to "PM's prestige at risk" is Arnab Goswamy style sensationalism :lol:. Not everything can be passed through executive decisions. Besides Arun Shourie was wrong when he said congress would never allow govt. to function. In fact they did for two sessions...
 
. .
Even if all that you said are true his handling of the ministry has been an absolute disappointment so far that should be reason enough for replacement

As for handling of ministry, i agree it is not up to the mark, but i am not ready to judge the govt. in such short a time. i am satisfied with the economy and everything else. am only upset about Gandhi;s ..

Irani , Jaitley and Health minister could much better , but ill give them lee way for another year.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clearances come faster than Usain Bolt: 12 proposals including gold monetisation & spectrum trade cleared - The Economic Times

@Bang Galore honest question here, aren't these executive decisions ?
 
.
Three out of four – the score line is impressive. The ideological Left has held on to one of its few surviving bastions in the country after winning the students union election in the Jawaharlal Nehru University. CPI-backed AISF won the contest for the post of president while ultra-left All India Students Association bagged the seats of vice-president and general secretary. Score lines, however, have a tendency to conceal more than they reveal. They never tell you about the nature of the contest or subtle shifts in the voters’ mood.
While the Left winning in its stronghold has an air of dull predictability about it, the real takeaway in the elections at JNU is the thumping arrival of the right wing ABVP as a challenger to the entrenched order. On Saturday, it had swept all top seats in Delhi University; the day after, it ended up snatching one seat – that of joint secretary – in JNU. This is a first for the BJP's student wing in 14 years. The last time it won a post was in 2001. Sambit Patra, who is the BJP’s chief spokesperson these days, was elected president then.
Representational image. AFPRepresentational image. AFP
Last year too, it had come close but hadn’t managed to capture a post. To make matters sweeter, it also ended up second in two posts, vice president and general secretary. ABVP secured 1,153 votes for the post of vice president while the winner AISA bagged 1,387; its vote count for the post of general secretary was 946 to AISA’s 1159. It was not too far behind the runners up to the president’s post too. While AISA bagged 962 votes, ABVP secured 924. All contests, including the joint-secretary that ABVP won, were close and that in itself is a leg up for the ABVP.
This showing could be interpreted in two ways – first, the ideological right is getting more acceptance among the young; and second, it is enjoying the ripple effect of the feel good mood in wider national politics. The first one means the competitors are gradually finding it difficult to explain to the youth the relevance of their ideology in the contemporary context. If they don’t find an answer to it quickly, they may soon lose their foothold in the campuses.
The second one needs to be explained with clarity. A big section of the voters in national elections is students. The general election 2014 saw as many as 12 crore first-time voters. Add to that the numbers in the 19-23 age group, which can be categorised as students. These voters were the force behind the BJP’s massive victory in the general election in 2014. Had the general perception of the government changed in the last 15-odd months, it would quickly reflect in the campus elections. Given the fact the political affiliation of each student outfit is no secret, there’s reason to believe that young voters still repose faith in the current dispensation.
Of course, cadre base and organisational strength play a role in these elections, but to separate it totally from the wider trend defies common sense. Not too much can be made out of this, but it will surely give the national ruling party bragging rights about connecting better with youth and aspirations.
 
. . . . . .
i feel like an idiot for even once liking shiv sena
i_hug_that_feel.png
 
.
Back
Top Bottom