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Remembering Lee Kuan Yew and What He Had to Say About India


https://www.thequint.com/news/world/what-lee-kuan-yew-had-to-say-about-india

I belong to that generation of Asian nationalists who looked up to India’s freedom struggle and its leaders Mahatma Gandhi and Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru.

The words of Singapore’s ‘founding father’ Lee Kuan Yew who transformed Singapore from just another nondescript colonial outpost and sea port to a global financial power centre. The Economist’s Where-to-be-born Index in 2013, ranked Singapore 6 out of 111 countries.

Until his death at the age of 91, Lee remained a highly-revered figure in Singapore. He was the island city-state’s first and longest-serving Prime Minister having served for over three decades till 1990.

Lee looked up to India’s Nehru, but it was China’s Deng Xiaoping whom he seemed to have inspired.

Lee’s views on India ranged from admiration to friendly nudges to strong disdain.

“How Will Lee Yuan Kew Govern India?”
In 2013, an IAS officer asked Lee if he could do to India what he did to Singapore.

Lee responded, “No single person can change India”, putting it down to the complexity created by its diverse culture and nature. India, Lee continued, “is diverse and therefore it has to work at its own speed.”

“As I grew up there are many different Indias and that stays true today. If you make the whole of India like a Bombay, then you get a different India,” Lee suggested pointing towards Mumbai’s ability to assimilate from across different backgrounds.

Lee even had a mantra for Indian politicians on good governance, “Integrity - absence of corruption, meritocracy - best people for the best job and a fair level playing field for everybody.”

“Unfulfilled Greatness”
Lee spoke of India’s potential and its long overdue “tryst with destiny”. In the second volume of his memoirs, published in 2000, he wrote,

India is a nation of unfulfilled greatness. Its potential has lain fallow, under used.

“Not a Real Country”
When Nehru was in charge, I thought India showed promise of becoming a thriving society and a great power,” but it has not “because of its stifling bureaucracy” and its “rigid caste system.” Being deliberately provocative, Lee says: “India is not a real country. Instead it is thirty-two separate nations that happen to be arrayed along the British rail line.

- In a series of interviews to Harvard Kennedy School’s Graham Allison and former US Ambassador to India, Robert D. Blackwill, published in 2013.

“No Longer a Wounded Civilisation”
India is an intrinsic part of this unfolding new world order. India can no longer be dismissed as a “wounded civilisation”, in the hurtful phrase of a westernised non resident Indian author (V.S. Naipal). Instead, the western media, market analysts, and the International Financial Institutions now show-case India as a success story and the next big opportunity.

- At the 37th Jawaharlal Nehru Memorial Lecture on 21st Nov 2005 in New Delhi.

“Not Going to be Everybody’s Lackey”
There will be the U.S., there will be China, the Indians are going to be themselves, they’re not going to be everybody’s lackey. They may not be as big as China in GDP.

- In an interview to veteran journalist Charlie Rose.

On India and China
If India were as well-organized as China, it will go at a different speed, but it’s going at the speed it is because it is India. It’s not one nation. It’s many nations. It has 320 different languages and 32 official languages.



Jul 25, 2013
"If someone were to give you India today, can you do to India what you did to Singapore over the last three decades?" Former Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew gives his take.
 
Remembering Lee Kuan Yew and What He Had to Say About India


https://www.thequint.com/news/world/what-lee-kuan-yew-had-to-say-about-india

I belong to that generation of Asian nationalists who looked up to India’s freedom struggle and its leaders Mahatma Gandhi and Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru.

The words of Singapore’s ‘founding father’ Lee Kuan Yew who transformed Singapore from just another nondescript colonial outpost and sea port to a global financial power centre. The Economist’s Where-to-be-born Index in 2013, ranked Singapore 6 out of 111 countries.

Until his death at the age of 91, Lee remained a highly-revered figure in Singapore. He was the island city-state’s first and longest-serving Prime Minister having served for over three decades till 1990.

Lee looked up to India’s Nehru, but it was China’s Deng Xiaoping whom he seemed to have inspired.

Lee’s views on India ranged from admiration to friendly nudges to strong disdain.

“How Will Lee Yuan Kew Govern India?”
In 2013, an IAS officer asked Lee if he could do to India what he did to Singapore.

Lee responded, “No single person can change India”, putting it down to the complexity created by its diverse culture and nature. India, Lee continued, “is diverse and therefore it has to work at its own speed.”

“As I grew up there are many different Indias and that stays true today. If you make the whole of India like a Bombay, then you get a different India,” Lee suggested pointing towards Mumbai’s ability to assimilate from across different backgrounds.

Lee even had a mantra for Indian politicians on good governance, “Integrity - absence of corruption, meritocracy - best people for the best job and a fair level playing field for everybody.”

“Unfulfilled Greatness”
Lee spoke of India’s potential and its long overdue “tryst with destiny”. In the second volume of his memoirs, published in 2000, he wrote,

India is a nation of unfulfilled greatness. Its potential has lain fallow, under used.

“Not a Real Country”
When Nehru was in charge, I thought India showed promise of becoming a thriving society and a great power,” but it has not “because of its stifling bureaucracy” and its “rigid caste system.” Being deliberately provocative, Lee says: “India is not a real country. Instead it is thirty-two separate nations that happen to be arrayed along the British rail line.

- In a series of interviews to Harvard Kennedy School’s Graham Allison and former US Ambassador to India, Robert D. Blackwill, published in 2013.

“No Longer a Wounded Civilisation”
India is an intrinsic part of this unfolding new world order. India can no longer be dismissed as a “wounded civilisation”, in the hurtful phrase of a westernised non resident Indian author (V.S. Naipal). Instead, the western media, market analysts, and the International Financial Institutions now show-case India as a success story and the next big opportunity.

- At the 37th Jawaharlal Nehru Memorial Lecture on 21st Nov 2005 in New Delhi.

“Not Going to be Everybody’s Lackey”
There will be the U.S., there will be China, the Indians are going to be themselves, they’re not going to be everybody’s lackey. They may not be as big as China in GDP.

- In an interview to veteran journalist Charlie Rose.

On India and China
If India were as well-organized as China, it will go at a different speed, but it’s going at the speed it is because it is India. It’s not one nation. It’s many nations. It has 320 different languages and 32 official languages.



Jul 25, 2013
"If someone were to give you India today, can you do to India what you did to Singapore over the last three decades?" Former Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew gives his take.
Lol @RiazHaq. India is not 5th largest economy in the world. Pakistan and Bangladesh are not begging IMF for bailouts, happy? Pakistan specially with CPEC has become the economic leader for the world. I hope this helps you on coping.
 
Will India Surpass China to Become the Next Superpower?
Four inconvenient truths make this scenario unlikely.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/2...mmit-great-power-competition-economic-growth/

by Prof Graham Allison, Harvard's Kennedy School of Government


when assessing a nation’s power, what matters more than the number of its citizens is the quality of its workforce. China’s workforce is more productive than India’s. The international community has rightly celebrated China’s “anti-poverty miracle” that has essentially eliminated abject poverty. In contrast, India continues to have high levels of poverty and malnutrition. In 1980, 90 percent of China’s 1 billion citizens had incomes below the World Bank’s threshold for abject poverty. Today, that number is approximately zero. Yet more than 10 percent of India’s population of 1.4 billion continue to live below the World Bank extreme poverty line of $2.15 per day. Meanwhile, 16.3 percent of India’s population was undernourished in 2019-21, compared with less than 2.5 percent of China’s population, according to the most recent United Nations State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World report. India also has one of the worst rates of child malnutrition in the world.

Fortunately, the future does not always resemble the past. But as a sign in the Pentagon warns: Hope is not a plan. While doing whatever it can to help Modi’s India realize a better future, Washington should also reflect on the assessment of Asia’s most insightful strategist. The founding father and long-time leader of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew, had great respect for Indians. Lee worked with successive Indian prime ministers, including Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi, hoping to help them make India strong enough to be a serious check on China (and thus provide the space required for his small city-state to survive and thrive).

But as Lee explained in a series of interviews published in 2014, the year before his death, he reluctantly concluded that this was not likely to happen. In his analysis, the combination of India’s deep-rooted caste system that was an enemy of meritocracy, its massive bureaucracy, and its elites’ unwillingness to address the competing claims of its multiple ethnic and religious groups led him to conclude that it would never be more than “the country of the future”—with that future never arriving. Thus, when I asked him a decade ago specifically whether India could become the next China, he answered directly: “Do not talk about India and China in the same breath.”



Since Lee offered this judgment, India has embarked on an ambitious infrastructure and development agenda under a new leader and demonstrated that it can achieve considerable economic growth. Yet while we can remain hopeful that this time could be different, I, for one, suspect Lee wouldn’t bet on it.
 
"Uneducated" Modi >>>>>>>>>> than 'educated' chhapri politicians having B.Tech degrees from IITs like Arvind Khujliwal.


Who can forget that shit, has turned entire twitter timeline into a kotha :lol:


Your only functional industry is also giving up, but online shonor bangla nashnulists won't.

Garments account for 10% of Bangladesh's GDP. What's more, Bangladesh has created local electronics brands like Walton which is still dominating the domestic market against global brands. Whereas your sub-standard electronics brands like Videocon got exterminated as soon as your license raj ended.

You Poojeets should be the last one talking about industrialization. Half of your labor force is still employed in agriculture.
 
How much revenue does that generate in your tiny irrelevant market anyways?
Videocon got exterminated as soon as your license raj ended.
Stop embarrassing yourself in front of everyone
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License Raj ended in 1991 with the reforms, lungis sure are dumb asf.

You Poojeets should be the last one talking about industrialization. Half of your labor force is still employed in agriculture.
Bangujeets are gonna talk about industrialisation :lol:?
Your biggest industry i.e. textiles employ 11.25 times less people compared to the Indian one, and textiles aren't the main Indian industry. Rather ask your machhikhor huqumat to define what an "industry" is.
 
Remembering Lee Kuan Yew and What He Had to Say About India


https://www.thequint.com/news/world/what-lee-kuan-yew-had-to-say-about-india

I belong to that generation of Asian nationalists who looked up to India’s freedom struggle and its leaders Mahatma Gandhi and Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru.

The words of Singapore’s ‘founding father’ Lee Kuan Yew who transformed Singapore from just another nondescript colonial outpost and sea port to a global financial power centre. The Economist’s Where-to-be-born Index in 2013, ranked Singapore 6 out of 111 countries.

Until his death at the age of 91, Lee remained a highly-revered figure in Singapore. He was the island city-state’s first and longest-serving Prime Minister having served for over three decades till 1990.

Lee looked up to India’s Nehru, but it was China’s Deng Xiaoping whom he seemed to have inspired.

Lee’s views on India ranged from admiration to friendly nudges to strong disdain.

“How Will Lee Yuan Kew Govern India?”
In 2013, an IAS officer asked Lee if he could do to India what he did to Singapore.

Lee responded, “No single person can change India”, putting it down to the complexity created by its diverse culture and nature. India, Lee continued, “is diverse and therefore it has to work at its own speed.”

“As I grew up there are many different Indias and that stays true today. If you make the whole of India like a Bombay, then you get a different India,” Lee suggested pointing towards Mumbai’s ability to assimilate from across different backgrounds.

Lee even had a mantra for Indian politicians on good governance, “Integrity - absence of corruption, meritocracy - best people for the best job and a fair level playing field for everybody.”

“Unfulfilled Greatness”
Lee spoke of India’s potential and its long overdue “tryst with destiny”. In the second volume of his memoirs, published in 2000, he wrote,

India is a nation of unfulfilled greatness. Its potential has lain fallow, under used.

“Not a Real Country”
When Nehru was in charge, I thought India showed promise of becoming a thriving society and a great power,” but it has not “because of its stifling bureaucracy” and its “rigid caste system.” Being deliberately provocative, Lee says: “India is not a real country. Instead it is thirty-two separate nations that happen to be arrayed along the British rail line.

- In a series of interviews to Harvard Kennedy School’s Graham Allison and former US Ambassador to India, Robert D. Blackwill, published in 2013.

“No Longer a Wounded Civilisation”
India is an intrinsic part of this unfolding new world order. India can no longer be dismissed as a “wounded civilisation”, in the hurtful phrase of a westernised non resident Indian author (V.S. Naipal). Instead, the western media, market analysts, and the International Financial Institutions now show-case India as a success story and the next big opportunity.

- At the 37th Jawaharlal Nehru Memorial Lecture on 21st Nov 2005 in New Delhi.

“Not Going to be Everybody’s Lackey”
There will be the U.S., there will be China, the Indians are going to be themselves, they’re not going to be everybody’s lackey. They may not be as big as China in GDP.

- In an interview to veteran journalist Charlie Rose.

On India and China
If India were as well-organized as China, it will go at a different speed, but it’s going at the speed it is because it is India. It’s not one nation. It’s many nations. It has 320 different languages and 32 official languages.



Jul 25, 2013
"If someone were to give you India today, can you do to India what you did to Singapore over the last three decades?" Former Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew gives his take.


What is educational qualification of Lee singapur ? Deng xiao ping and xin ping of china ?
 
How much revenue does that generate in your tiny irrelevant market anyways?

Walton Hi-Tech Industry's revenue in 2022 - BDT 8,168 Crore (US$ 757 million)
Godrej Appliances in 2022 - INR 2,000 crore (US $242 million)

^that's the biggest Indian consumer electronics brand right now.

Stop embarrassing yourself in front of everyone
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License Raj ended in 1991 with the reforms, lungis sure are dumb asf.

And how does that counter my point that sub-standard poojeet brands get eliminated after foreign brands start entering the market?

Your biggest industry i.e. textiles employ 11.25 times less people compared to the Indian one, and textiles aren't the main Indian industry.

That's right, and yet Bangladesh's textile export remains higher than India, that's because Bangladeshis are naturally more productive.

Your biggest merchandise industry is refined petroleum which hardly even employs people. Although the refinery owners can earn billions, thus, increasing the value on paper. That explains why Bangladesh's per capita consumption is twice that of poojeets despite having similar per capita GDP on paper.
 
There are two Pakistanis who have done more to humiliate India on blogosphere than anyone else.

One is Brofessor sb, who has conclusively proven that IND is doing worse than PAK

The other is YLH who has equally conclusively proven that Mahatma Gandhi is a Hindu racist, casteist, fascist, misogynist, bigoted freak.

Both are very dear friends of mine.

Regards
 
Walton Hi-Tech Industry's revenue in 2022 - BDT 8,168 Crore (US$ 757 million)
Godrej Appliances in 2022 - INR 2,000 crore (US $242 million)

^that's the biggest Indian consumer electronics brand right now.
Revenue of Voltas alone is $1.2 billion :lol:
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"Muh Godrej"
And how does that counter my point that sub-standard poojeet brands get eliminated after foreign brands start entering the market?
Lungijeet your claim made 0 sense, Videocon drowned due to losses in Oil business, your point was not weighed with any substantial argument.
That's right, and yet Bangladesh's textile export remains higher than India, that's because Bangladeshis are naturally more productive.
Thats because of Bangladesh being an LDC and getting LDC quota from EU which gives you duty free access to european markets, nothing to be proud of. Your own domestic market size for textiles is a joke, while our domestic market is huge.
Your biggest merchandise industry is refined petroleum which hardly even employs people. Although the refinery owners can earn billions, thus, increasing the value on paper. That explains why Bangladesh's per capita consumption is twice that of poojeets despite having similar per capita GDP on paper.

"Per capita consumption twice of Indians"
Lungijeets not wasting a chance to embarrass themselves :omghaha:
 
What is educational qualification of Lee singapur ? Deng xiao ping and xin ping of china ?

Ya Allah education (even Whatsapp University) rest in peace !!

Revenue of Voltas alone is $1.2 billion :lol:
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"Muh Godrej"

Lungijeet your claim made 0 sense, Videocon drowned due to losses in Oil business, your point was not weighed with any substantial argument.

Thats because of Bangladesh being an LDC and getting LDC quota from EU which gives you duty free access to european markets, nothing to be proud of. Your own domestic market size for textiles is a joke, while our domestic market is huge.


"Per capita consumption twice of Indians"
Lungijeets not wasting a chance to embarrass themselves :omghaha:

Look at this for evidence of how cheap you bhakt idiots are.....

Per capita Indian consumption my foot! :crazy:

 
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Ya Allah education (even Whatsapp University) rest in peace !!



Look at this for evidence of how cheap you bhakt idiots are.....

Per capita Indian consumption my foot! :crazy:

You legit desperately searched for an 8 year old reddit post of someone sharing his opinion and only 17 people upvoted AS EVIDENCE.

Lungijeets surely are dumb asf :lol:
 
Walton Hi-Tech Industry's revenue in 2022 - BDT 8,168 Crore (US$ 757 million)
Godrej Appliances in 2022 - INR 2,000 crore (US $242 million)

^that's the biggest Indian consumer electronics brand right now.



And how does that counter my point that sub-standard poojeet brands get eliminated after foreign brands start entering the market?



That's right, and yet Bangladesh's textile export remains higher than India, that's because Bangladeshis are naturally more productive.

Your biggest merchandise industry is refined petroleum which hardly even employs people. Although the refinery owners can earn billions, thus, increasing the value on paper. That explains why Bangladesh's per capita consumption is twice that of poojeets despite having similar per capita GDP on paper.
This dumb idiot thinks exports is everything. India domestic apparel market is over $100 billion

The Indian textile and apparel market is estimated at $153 billion in 2021, with domestic market contributing $110 billion and exports constituting $43 billion, as per the report.

We don't need export markets, we are a big market ourselves.


While domestic Bangladeshi apparel market is almost non existent but even that is dominated by Indian and Pakistani brands.


And Godrej consumer products revenue for you.

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Check revenues of Voltas (9000 cr) and Blue star (6000 cr) as well.

India electronic goods exports are about 30% of our overall exports. We can't be stitching chaddis for 85% of our exports and consider ourselves more productive. 😂.


Stop sprouting fantasies and learn your auqaat.
 
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Revenue of Voltas alone is $1.2 billion :lol:
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Dumbass, that includes all of Voltas products and services which includes project management, construction etc. The comparison was only between revenues from consumer electronics which is why I only included revenues from Walton Hi Tech Industry, not the other businesses of Walton.

"Per capita consumption twice of Indians"
Lungijeets not wasting a chance to embarrass themselves :omghaha:

You already forgot how many times you and your fellow poojeets got humiliated discussing the per capita consumption? You want me to post the stats again?

And Godrej consumer products revenue for you.

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Check revenues of Voltas (9000 cr) and Blue star (6000 cr) as well.

Another poojeet dumbass with a too low IQ to understand the product portfolios.
 
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