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Firstly there is no mention of name of any particular religion in my post. It is a sarcasm on those who are imposing their faith on others & creating problems in society. My sarcasm is not against those who worship cows & bulls, it is against those who are forcing others suffer under the umbrella of faith. Secondly I am not a religious person, in fact I also hate credulous beliefs prevalent in my religion.
I have no problem with you faith unless it is troubling other people. Stray cattle is becoming a menace in my state. They are killing & injuring people on roads. Plus they are destroying crops of poor farmers. It is responsibility of you guys to take care of cows & bulls who are suffering from starvation, illness & injuries on roads. But instead of this hot head organisations are beating poor dairy farmers like taliban (few months back I posted a thread on them with videos). Even radicals like you in this forum instead of showing sympathy towards those 35 persons started declaring me a bigot, terrorist & hindu hater. This clearly shows who is intolerent.Radical organisations & their followers have to face criticism because instead on focusing welfare of animals which are holy for them they are busy in forcing their faith on others.
Before declaring me a bigot let me ask you a simple question what is your weighty contribution towards providing shelter to your holy animals ?

So the only solution to the stray cattle problem is to cut em up and eat them? Whats next slaughter all the stray dogs and pigs and eat them? o_O

Your "sarcasm" (read bigotry) was very much directed towards the Hindus, who consider Cows to be mother like, hence the bull being a father reference from you. Took that one straight out of our western neighbour's "anti Hindu hate book" eh?

You are not a religious person, neither am I, big whoop, but atleast have the decency to respect the religious sentiments of other people.
 
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Firstly there is no mention of name of any particular religion in my post. It is a sarcasm on those who are imposing their faith on others & creating problems in society. My sarcasm is not against those who worship cows & bulls, it is against those who are forcing others suffer under the umbrella of faith. Secondly I am not a religious person, in fact I also hate credulous beliefs prevalent in my religion.
I have no problem with you faith unless it is troubling other people. Stray cattle is becoming a menace in my state. They are killing & injuring people on roads. Plus they are destroying crops of poor farmers. It is responsibility of you guys to take care of cows & bulls who are suffering from starvation, illness & injuries on roads. But instead of this hot head organisations are beating poor dairy farmers like taliban (few months back I posted a thread on them with videos). Even radicals like you in this forum instead of showing sympathy towards those 35 persons started declaring me a bigot, terrorist & hindu hater. This clearly shows who is intolerent.Radical organisations & their followers have to face criticism because instead on focusing welfare of animals which are holy for them they are busy in forcing their faith on others.
Before declaring me a bigot let me ask you a simple question what is your weighty contribution towards providing shelter to your holy animals ?

I have never gone personal on this site so I will refrain from name calling. But your logic is so idiotic. I know you hate BJP. But often I have seen you take potshots at Hindus and Hinduism. How come always you are right and 4-5 other posters are wrong?

AAP and the headless chicken syndrome. Most supporters are without any ideology of their own. They won Delhi because Congress votes shifted to it.

No wonder in your beloved Punjab, Bhagwant Mann protests Kejriwal, out of 4 MPs 2 are suspended.... and whats more this grand party is only in a city state in the whole nation.... there too it loses election after its mentor does a rock concert.

PS: From now on refrain from bashing Hindus. You don't know this but more Sikhs support BJP than AAP. Infact, Sikhs and Hindus are brothers notwithstanding some nutjobs and idiots who go mental due to political differences. I hope you are not amongst them...

So solution to the stray cattle problem is to cut em up and eat them? Whats next cut up all the stray dogs and pigs and eat them? o_O

Your "sarcasm" (read bigotry) was very much against the Hindus, who consider Cows to me mother like, hence the bull being a father reference from you. Took that one straight out of western neighbour's "anti Hindu hate book" eh? You are not religious person, neither am I, big whoop, atleast have the decency to respect the religious sentiments of other people.

He often loses it.... Last time when I posted this @ranjeet supported him and I stopped .... but he often goes personal.... this is not the first time. I guess he could not differentiate a religion from a political party.
 
some anonymous post from quora......... bihar
from the percentage of last lok sabha election percentage

40% NDA + Anti incumbency toward Nitish kumar + Manjhi
44% UPA [ - Manjhi - pappu yadav - lalu jungle raj.]
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  • NDA require to handle other 6% vote minus some vote from UPA.
  • For that they require to include manjhi and pappu yadav and some independent in nda fold.
  • NDA require to broke some leaders from UPA fold.
  • Upper caste will vote for NDA similarly Muslim will not vote for NDA.
  • Now the task remain for NDA to take other caste vote for NDA. The result will depend on this. Manjhi , Kushwaha, Ramvilas paswan can help NDA to fetch some percent votes
  • If Manjhi becomes a caste icon, transferring some of the 15% Mahadalit votes to BJP.
  • Mr Modi and special status of Bihar can help as well to NDA.
  • I predicct NDA will win.
 
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Guys here is a brilliant article by Vasundhara Raje, Honourable CM of Rajasthan in the TOI. Please Read it
@Rain Man @Roybot @nair @levina @anant_s

A revolution in subsidies: A modern state is a welfare state, but it must target and deliver subsidies effectively

A modern state is a welfare state. But a modern state does not “spray and pray” with its subsidies. It must deliver them with grace, efficiency and effectiveness.

Currently ration shops in Rajasthan stock only three items (wheat, sugar and kerosene), are open only one week a month, treat citizens poorly, and have high subsidy leakage because we lack the online infrastructure to cross reference inventory, consumption and eligibility. Over the next year the state government will rebrand 5,000 of our 25,542 ration shops in a public private partnership as Annapurna Bhandars: They will stay open all month, sell more than 150 products at prices regulated by the government, start home delivery and join an online platform.

In parallel, all families with state government issued Bhamashah cards will have the option to choose between direct cash credit of subsidies to bank accounts or getting non-cash subsidised goods that trigger an SMS to their cellphone when their eligibility amount is issued by any ration shop. During pilots of this subsidy choice in Ajmer, citizens opted for non-cash versus cash subsidies in the ratio of 65:35. But this may change over time.

India’s subsidy debate has deep historical roots; some of the most heated debates between the 299 members of the constituent assembly that wrote India’s remarkable Constitution were around the distinction between fundamental rights (whose aim was political democracy) and directive principles (whose aim was social and economic democracy). There was great disappointment amongst some members when directive principles were made non-justiciable (unenforceable by courts).

I believe these were essentially conflicts of head and heart because everything that our citizens needed was not possible immediately. As Babasaheb Ambedkar said during his speech introducing the draft Constitution in 1948, “The criticism that directive principles are pious declarations with no binding force is superfluous. Whoever is in power cannot ignore them even though he may not have to answer in a court of law for breach. But he will certainly have to answer to the electorate.”

Babasaheb was right; electoral politics since our first election in 1952 have shown that no political party can ignore the social and economic objectives of the directive principles. The amount of government spending is less important than how the money is spent; spending that doesn’t reach the needy is not only wasteful but represents stealing from future generations.

Much of the Rs 80,000 crore outstanding debt of the Rajasthan State Electricity Board represents wasteful subsidies that could have been spent on roads, education or skills. A former prime minister once said that only 15% of government expenditure reaches the poor; clearly his realisation was not shared by the last central government which bafflingly cancelled the implementation of Aadhaar verification for gas cylinder subsidy just before the last Lok Sabha election.

Thankfully the linking of gas cylinder subsidies to Aadhaar by the new government will save Rs 10,000 crore annually. Economic theory is divided over the relative efficacy of cash versus non-cash subsidies but experience from Mexico, Brazil and the US suggests that cash transfers have smaller leakages and women are more responsible custodians of subsidy spending than men. However the economics profession changes its mind often and policy makers should be guided by citizen choice, while simultaneously improving cash and non-cash subsidy delivery using a powerful new tool for the modern welfare state: biometric identification.

The enemy of subsidy spending is leakage to people who do not need it. The Rajasthan government’s consolidated and de-duplicated Bhamashah database will issue a card to every family that will be linked to a bank account in the name of the lady of the house. Bhamashah’s Aadhaar authenticated database makes it an effective platform for financial inclusion, health insurance, ration shops, education scholarships, Mgnrega payments, and much else – because all families will receive an SMS for all cash or non-cash transactions linked to their card.

The state government has enrolled 88 lakh of Rajasthan’s 135 lakh families and will cover everybody in two years. Over time physical cards will be replaced by phones consistent with the Centre’s audacious JAM trinity (Jan Dhan Yojana, Aadhaar and Mobile Phone).

It’s safe to predict that over the next few decades government expenditure in India will rise substantially from the current 16% of GDP; comparable numbers are 57% for Denmark, 40% for the US and 25% for Brazil. However, a populous country like India must balance targeted government subsidies with alternate social justice solutions like infrastructure, education, skills and jobs.

The wisdom of balance in governance is hardly new; the magnificent ruins at Hampi of the Vijaynagara Empire have a horizontal band of three animal sculptures at the bottom of every building; tigers (for courage), horses (for speed) and elephants (for stability). This grouping has an important message for state governments that often choose the status quo over boldness, innovation and experimentation.

The Centre has created new space for state governments to complement India’s progress in fundamental rights since 1947 with better outcomes on the Constitution’s directive principles. Delivering subsidies more efficiently and effectively is surely a great place to start.

A revolution in subsidies: A modern state is a welfare state, but it must target and deliver subsidies effectively - TOI Blogs
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True. My only regret is that BJP and SS could have ruled Maharashtra for atleast 50 years. But Thackerey's ego and some section of Maha BJP are hell bent in dividing the Hindu votes in Maharashtra.

I have been to almost all states in India. But no other state comes close to Hindu nationalism as Maharashtra. No wonder Aurangzeb died here trying to kill Marathas :devil:
There is ego & hatred on both sides,
From the SS:- Uddhav Thackeray & co.
From the BJP:-Some at the state BJP Leadership+Modi-Shah. Modi didn't want any alliance with the Sena in the first place(after election) after UT's personal attacks, he was eager on an alliance with the smaller parties+breaking the NCP & the Congress.. SHah made him agree to an alliance.

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& more importantly, many in the BJP leadership now believe that:-"Why rule Maha. with a partner side by side, when we might as well rule it alone with some junior partners whom we can easily bypass??"

The Hindutva & ideology part is very complicated to explain, will do it later when I also get the hang of it..
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& i agree on the bolded part, Maharashtra can be considered one of the janma-sthans of Hindutva & Hindu nationalism!! Infact many NCP & Congress cadre too are Hindutvavadi by nature

@vsdoc @Tridibans @doppelganger @all marathis

I have heard rumours from good friends & contacts that the Gujarati & Jain lobbies are now thinking of working towards making Mumbai a UT after this meat ban ruckus!! What do u think.. is this possible?? & will the Marathis & the rest of Maharashtra accept it.

Here is a Gujarati supremacist on twitter ranting against the Thackerays & talking about making mumbai an UT


What arrogance -_-
 
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Guys here is a brilliant article by Vasundhara Raje, Honourable CM of Rajasthan in the TOI. Please Read it
@Rain Man @Roybot @nair @levina @anant_s

A revolution in subsidies: A modern state is a welfare state, but it must target and deliver subsidies effectively

A modern state is a welfare state. But a modern state does not “spray and pray” with its subsidies. It must deliver them with grace, efficiency and effectiveness.

Currently ration shops in Rajasthan stock only three items (wheat, sugar and kerosene), are open only one week a month, treat citizens poorly, and have high subsidy leakage because we lack the online infrastructure to cross reference inventory, consumption and eligibility. Over the next year the state government will rebrand 5,000 of our 25,542 ration shops in a public private partnership as Annapurna Bhandars: They will stay open all month, sell more than 150 products at prices regulated by the government, start home delivery and join an online platform.

In parallel, all families with state government issued Bhamashah cards will have the option to choose between direct cash credit of subsidies to bank accounts or getting non-cash subsidised goods that trigger an SMS to their cellphone when their eligibility amount is issued by any ration shop. During pilots of this subsidy choice in Ajmer, citizens opted for non-cash versus cash subsidies in the ratio of 65:35. But this may change over time.

India’s subsidy debate has deep historical roots; some of the most heated debates between the 299 members of the constituent assembly that wrote India’s remarkable Constitution were around the distinction between fundamental rights (whose aim was political democracy) and directive principles (whose aim was social and economic democracy). There was great disappointment amongst some members when directive principles were made non-justiciable (unenforceable by courts).

I believe these were essentially conflicts of head and heart because everything that our citizens needed was not possible immediately. As Babasaheb Ambedkar said during his speech introducing the draft Constitution in 1948, “The criticism that directive principles are pious declarations with no binding force is superfluous. Whoever is in power cannot ignore them even though he may not have to answer in a court of law for breach. But he will certainly have to answer to the electorate.”

Babasaheb was right; electoral politics since our first election in 1952 have shown that no political party can ignore the social and economic objectives of the directive principles. The amount of government spending is less important than how the money is spent; spending that doesn’t reach the needy is not only wasteful but represents stealing from future generations.

Much of the Rs 80,000 crore outstanding debt of the Rajasthan State Electricity Board represents wasteful subsidies that could have been spent on roads, education or skills. A former prime minister once said that only 15% of government expenditure reaches the poor; clearly his realisation was not shared by the last central government which bafflingly cancelled the implementation of Aadhaar verification for gas cylinder subsidy just before the last Lok Sabha election.

Thankfully the linking of gas cylinder subsidies to Aadhaar by the new government will save Rs 10,000 crore annually. Economic theory is divided over the relative efficacy of cash versus non-cash subsidies but experience from Mexico, Brazil and the US suggests that cash transfers have smaller leakages and women are more responsible custodians of subsidy spending than men. However the economics profession changes its mind often and policy makers should be guided by citizen choice, while simultaneously improving cash and non-cash subsidy delivery using a powerful new tool for the modern welfare state: biometric identification.

The enemy of subsidy spending is leakage to people who do not need it. The Rajasthan government’s consolidated and de-duplicated Bhamashah database will issue a card to every family that will be linked to a bank account in the name of the lady of the house. Bhamashah’s Aadhaar authenticated database makes it an effective platform for financial inclusion, health insurance, ration shops, education scholarships, Mgnrega payments, and much else – because all families will receive an SMS for all cash or non-cash transactions linked to their card.

The state government has enrolled 88 lakh of Rajasthan’s 135 lakh families and will cover everybody in two years. Over time physical cards will be replaced by phones consistent with the Centre’s audacious JAM trinity (Jan Dhan Yojana, Aadhaar and Mobile Phone).

It’s safe to predict that over the next few decades government expenditure in India will rise substantially from the current 16% of GDP; comparable numbers are 57% for Denmark, 40% for the US and 25% for Brazil. However, a populous country like India must balance targeted government subsidies with alternate social justice solutions like infrastructure, education, skills and jobs.

The wisdom of balance in governance is hardly new; the magnificent ruins at Hampi of the Vijaynagara Empire have a horizontal band of three animal sculptures at the bottom of every building; tigers (for courage), horses (for speed) and elephants (for stability). This grouping has an important message for state governments that often choose the status quo over boldness, innovation and experimentation.

The Centre has created new space for state governments to complement India’s progress in fundamental rights since 1947 with better outcomes on the Constitution’s directive principles. Delivering subsidies more efficiently and effectively is surely a great place to start.

A revolution in subsidies: A modern state is a welfare state, but it must target and deliver subsidies effectively - TOI Blogs
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There is ego & hatred on both sides,
From the SS:- Uddhav Thackeray & co.
From the BJP:-Some at the state BJP Leadership+Modi-Shah. Modi didn't want any alliance with the Sena in the first place(after election) after UT's personal attacks, he was eager on an alliance with the smaller parties+breaking the NCP & the Congress.. SHah made him agree to an alliance.

EDIT1:-
& more importantly, many in the BJP leadership now believe that:-"Why rule Maha. with a partner side by side, when we might as well rule it alone with some junior partners whom we can easily bypass??"

The Hindutva & ideology part is very complicated to explain, will do it later when I also get the hang of it..
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& i agree on the bolded part, Maharashtra can be considered one of the janma-sthans of Hindutva & Hindu nationalism!! Infact many NCP & Congress cadre too are Hindutvavadi by nature

@vsdoc @Tridibans @doppelganger @all marathis

I have heard rumours from good friends & contacts that the Gujarati & Jain lobbies are now thinking of working towards making Mumbai a UT after this meat ban ruckus!! What do u think.. is this possible?? & will the Marathis & the rest of Maharashtra accept it.

Here is a Gujarati supremacist on twitter ranting against the Thackerays & talking about making mumbai an UT


What arrogance -_-


Well its not the truth. Like how Hardik Patel doesn't represent Patels, similarly not all Jains are like this. Infact, once you go to northern Mumbai suburbs, Jains are atleast 15-20% in many areas (Dahisar, Mira-Bhayender, Vasai) and they are hardcore BJP supporters. Like in all things, some may support Congress or others.

Jains in Mumbai are very sucessful businessmen, real estate Builders, etc. With more and more Marathis now voting for BJP, in a deacde, except perhaps Byculla/ Jogeshwari areas, all would go to BJP. Even now, 30 out of 36 seats are with Saffron (22 BJP + 8 SS) in and around Mumbai.
 
Bro....you are an idiot....not even the worst trolls in the forum talk that way...

Why ? She was clearly begging for it. .... and I have a lot to spare :coffee: Her frustration is clearly visible and understandable, and her incurable itch seems to be growing and spreading.

You and other secular mallus might want to remember that.

PS: I have made a note of your pleadings to your p@ki masters......... good luck.
 
@nForce
Thank you for your support. It could not have come at a better time. That's all I can say.

Levina I mean no offence to you when I say this, but you gotto stop sucking up to these people. So what if you got a negative rating, wear it like a badge of honour. I got like 3-4 negative reps, from the same guy, but I never bothered protesting it. When you try and plead and grovel with them it gives them a bigger head and perhaps some sadistic pleasure. Don't give them that chance.

Looks like I missed out on a troll fest :o:
 
Well its not the truth. Like how Hardik Patel doesn't represent Patels, similarly not all Jains are like this. Infact, once you go to northern Mumbai suburbs, Jains are atleast 15-20% in many areas (Dahisar, Mira-Bhayender, Vasai) and they are hardcore BJP supporters. Like in all things, some may support Congress or others.

Jains in Mumbai are very sucessful businessmen, real estate Builders, etc. With more and more Marathis now voting for BJP, in a deacde, except perhaps Byculla/ Jogeshwari areas, all would go to BJP. Even now, 30 out of 36 seats are with Saffron (22 BJP + 8 SS) in and around Mumbai.
Good to know..

I know what it is like bifurcating a state & the social,financial,political & emotional consequences of it, & bifurcating Vidarbha & making Mumbai a UT will destroy BJP in Maharashtra for ever. & could forever reduce it to an anti-Marathi party..

Look at what happened to Congress in AP, they got a big zero everywhere from MP,MLA to Panchayat & ZPTC seats. Even in local village elections, congress candidates didn't get any votes. & in some cases, zero!!

It is the most hated party in AP today other than TRS
 
He often loses it.... Last time when I posted this @ranjeet supported him and I stopped .... but he often goes personal.... this is not the first time. I guess he could not differentiate a religion from a political party.

I am all for personal jibes as long as they are done without either side getting serious.
 
Don't worry, ANYONE who begs and pleads to their p@ki masters is a "secular" in my book. :coffee:
Manvan,no need to worry..
You continues to be a fan favorite among sanghis in PDF as long as you mock and pass your dialy dose of usual verbal diarrhea against Indian Muslims and Christians...This is only temporary..
At least you are open in your hatred against us..
 
Manvan,no need to worry..
You continues to be a fan favorite among sanghis in PDF as long as you mock and pass your dialy dose of usual verbal diarrhea against Indian Muslims and Christians...This is only temporary..
At least you are open in your hatred against us..

I am never worried, but can't say the same about you. You are $hiting your pants obsessing about me :lol:

Let the hate flow through you, I enjoy seeing you and your team frustrated. Adios Cyclops.


...as clear thinking and articulate as ever. :coffee:
 
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