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Indian Navy joins search for missing Malaysian plane in the Malacca Straits

Indian Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard pressed into service for the search of the missing Malaysian Airline aircraft


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With a request for help from the Government of Malaysia in tracing the missing Malaysian Airline aircraft, the focus of the search has shifted westward towards Andaman Sea. A formal request in this regard was received from Indian High Commissioner in Kuala Lumpur. With the search expanded to cover an area stretching from South China Sea to Andaman Sea, the Indian Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard have been pressed into service for the search of the missing aircraft.

The air effort for searching the area extensively will include two C-130, one Mi-17 V5 helicopter of Indian Air Force and Dornier and P8i, maritime reconnaissance aircraft of Indian Navy. In addition ships of Indian Navy and Coast Guard will be combing the area to locate the possible crash site. Both Navy and Air Force are also ready to reinforce their assets on short notice.

The Commander-in-Chief Andaman and Nicobar Command has been nominated as the Overall Force Commander and Headquarter Integrated Defence Staff is coordinating the entire effort between MoD and Services. Indian Navy has been designated the lead Service. The Headquarters Andaman and Nicobar Command being the nodal agency will assist Malaysia in all possible manner for the search in the area of Andaman Sea. The area indicated by Malaysia lies in the South Andaman Sea and is West of Great Nicobar Island. Meanwhile the Defence Crisis Management Group is also being activated from today to monitor the progress of the search operations at Headquarter Integrated Defence Staff.

Indian Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard pressed into service for the search of the missing Malaysian Airline aircraft - Defence and Security of India
 
What about our radars in Andaman? Havnt they detected any?

We had many ships stationed there ... what about radars in them ?

What about the Israeli TechSar satellite.. and India's RISAT 1 and RISAT2..

Good that our forces have joined the search... But we need more PR as well...

It is our backyard and we have to show the world we are capable.
 
Malaysians are clueless. So in the end they will end up searching the whole planet.
 
Good news!

But this is getting stranger with ever day......


BTW, those Tu 142 are weird looking beauties, I saw one of them flying in real life.... a truly awesome sight.

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Hope they find them soon. Also hope to not find them in our own back yard. This will be absolute disastrous for our navy and defense in general too if they do so.

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I am afraid very little ....

that too after 4 days ...hardly anything will be left floating besides oil slick to be seen from sky .

Off course several objects ,personal belongings which may have survived the crash and fire ..would be there but they will be as difficult to locate as a needle in haystack ....

As " Rose " says at the climatic scene of " Titanic " ....Ocean is like Heart of woman ....it can hide many secrets ...



Bermuda triangle has swallowed thousands of planes and ships without trace ...
Airfrance parts floating after 1 year. Bermuda triangle is pretty safe, only dozen or so aircraft and ships lost there. Irrational fear and not knowing why they were lost is the reason for such a hype.
 
India scours A&N jungle islands for lost Malaysian jetliner

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Indian aircraft on Friday combed Andaman and Nicobar, made up of more than 500 mostly uninhabited islands, for signs of a missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner that evidence suggests was last headed towards the heavily forested archipelago.

Popular with tourists and anthropologists alike, the islands form India’s most isolated state. They are best known for dense rainforests, coral reefs and hunter-gatherer tribes who have long resisted contact with outsiders.

The search for lost Flight MH370 has expanded dramatically in the past week but failed to locate the plane or any wreckage, making it one of the most baffling mysteries in aviation history.

Initially focused northeast of Malaysia, search operations took a new turn after Malaysia’s air force chief said military radar had spotted an unidentified aircraft, suspected to be the lost Boeing 777, to the west of Malaysia early on March 8.

On Thursday, two sources told Reuters the unidentified aircraft appeared to be following a commonly used navigational route that would take it over the Andaman and Nicobar islands.

The Indian Navy has deployed two Dornier planes to fly across the island chain, a total area of 720 km (447 miles) by 52 km (32 miles), Indian military spokesman Harmeet Singh said in the state capital, Port Blair. So far the planes, and a helicopter searching the coast, had found nothing.

“This operation is like finding a needle in a haystack,” said Singh, who is the spokesman for joint air force, navy and army command in the islands.

NARROW CORRIDOR

The Defence Ministry said the Eastern Naval Command would also search across a new area measuring 15 km by 600 km along the Chennai coast in the Bay of Bengal.

The shape of this area, located 900 km west of Port Blair, suggested the search was focusing on a narrow flight corridor.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said China appreciated India’s search efforts. Most of the passengers on Flight MH370 are Chinese.

A fire spotted on an island inhabited by the Sentinelese tribe was unconnected to the missing flight, Rear Admiral Sudhir Pillai, Chief of Staff of the joint command, told Reuters

“I can confirm we’ve been watching the smoke on the island by air and by boats along the coast for some time,” Pillai said.

“But we believe it has nothing to do with the missing Malaysia Airlines plane,” he added, saying that it was possible that the fire was lit by the tribe, who are known to burn thick grassland.

He added that he believed the smoke on North Sentinel island started before the aircraft disappeared seven days ago.

On standby is India’s most advanced maritime air surveillance plane, the P-8I Poseidon, a long range anti-submarine variant of the U.S. Navy’s P-8A. India, the first overseas customer for the aircraft, has ordered eight P-8Is.

Indian ships are also helping in the search by more than a dozen nations for the missing plane, by looking in an area north of Sumatra, in the south Andaman Sea.

The 2004 Asian tsunami devastated much of Andaman and Nicobar. In the wake of that disaster, a member of the reclusive Sentinelese was photographed shooting arrows at an Indian coastguard helicopter.

Another nomadic tribe, the Jarawa, are increasingly in contact with outsiders. Tribal rights group Survival accuses travel agencies of organising “human safari” tours to view the Jarawa, who are fish and turtle hunters and number about 400.

Andaman and Nicobar is of strategic importance for India, because of its location near the busy Malacca Straits shipping route. Over the past decade, India has built up its military presence on the islands.

India scours jungle islands for lost Malaysian jetliner | idrw.org
 
Airfrance parts floating after 1 year. Bermuda triangle is pretty safe, only dozen or so aircraft and ships lost there. Irrational fear and not knowing why they were lost is the reason for such a hype.

well why dozens of aircrafts and ships were lost there without any trace is not clear ...
and there always lies tendency for humans to create hype over anything that appears mysterious .

No doubt that Bermuda traingle is one of such much celebrated mysterious spot on map of the earth.

Airfrance parts maybe floating after 1 year ..so what ?

There are lots of ifs and buts involved . Based on how plane crashed many outcomes are possible .
 
Analysis shows two possible Indian Ocean paths for airliner

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Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 made drastic changes in altitude and direction after disappearing from civilian radar, U.S. officials told CNN on Friday, raising questions for investigators about just who was at the controls of the commercial jetliner that went missing one week ago with 239 people on board.

The more the United States learns about the flight’s pattern, “the more difficult to write off” the idea that some type of human intervention was involved, one of the officials familiar with the investigation said.

The revelation comes as CNN has learned that a classified analysis of electronic and satellite data suggests the flight likely crashed either in the Bay of Bengal or elsewhere in the Indian Ocean.

The analysis conducted by the United States and Malaysian governments may have narrowed the search area for the jetliner that vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, leaving little trace of where it went or why.

The analysis used radar data and satellite pings to calculate that the plane diverted to the west, across the Malayan peninsula, and then either flew in a northwest direction toward the Bay of Bengal or southwest into the Indian Ocean.

The theory builds on earlier revelations by U.S. officials that an automated reporting system on the airliner was pinging satellites for up to five hours after its last reported contact with air traffic controllers. Inmarsat, a satellite communications company, confirmed to CNN that automated signals were registered on its network.

Taken together, the data point toward speculation of a dark scenario in which someone took control of the plane for some unknown purpose, perhaps terrorism.

That theory is buoyed by word from a senior U.S. official familiar with the investigation that the Malaysia Airlines plane made several significant altitude changes and altered its course more than once after losing contact with flight towers.

The jetliner was flying “a strange path,” the official said on condition of anonymity. The details of the radar readings were first reported by The New York Times on Friday.

Malaysian military radar showed the plane climbing to 45,000 feet soon after disappearing from civilian radar screens and then dropping to 23,000 feet before climbing again, the official said.

The question of what happened to the jetliner has turned into one of the biggest mysteries in aviation history, befuddling industry experts and government officials.

Suggestions have ranged from a catastrophic explosion to sabotage to hijacking to pilot suicide.

The sabotage theory got a boost Friday from The Wall Street Journal, which reported investigators increasingly suspect the plane’s communications systems were manually switched off.

Investigators are trying to determine whether the satellite communications system that pinged for hours stopped functioning because “something catastrophic happened or someone switched off” the system, the newspaper reported, citing an unnamed person familiar with the jet’s last known position.

The pings stopped at a point over the Indian Ocean, while the jetliner was flying at a normal cruising altitude, according to the newspaper.

Movie-plot theory

Then there’s the theory that maybe Flight 370 landed in a remote Indian Ocean island chain.

The suggestion — and it’s only that at this point — is based on analysis of radar data revealed Friday by Reuters suggesting that the plane wasn’t just blindly flying northwest from Malaysia. Reuters, citing unidentified sources familiar with the investigation, reported that whoever was piloting the vanished jet was following navigational waypoints that would have taken the plane over the Andaman Islands.

The radar data don’t show the plane over the Andaman Islands, but only on a known route that would take it there, Reuters cited its sources as saying.

The movie-plot theory seems more complicated and unlikely than one in which the plane — its flight crew perhaps incapacitated — simply flew on until it ran out of fuel or faced some other problem. But it’s one that law enforcement has to check out, former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom said.

Aviation experts say it’s possible, if highly unlikely, that someone could have hijacked and landed the giant Boeing 777 undetected.

The international airport in Port Blair, the regional capital of the Andaman and Nicobar islands, has a runway that is long enough to accommodate a 777, according to publicly available data.

But the region is highly militarized because of its strategic importance to India, Indian officials with knowledge of the operation tell CNN, making it an unlikely target for pirates trying to sneak in an enormous airplane with a wingspan of more than 200 feet.

Denis Giles, editor of the Andaman Chronicle newspaper, says there’s just nowhere to land such a big plane in his archipelago without attracting notice.

“There is no chance, no such chance, that any aircraft of this size can come towards Andaman and Nicobar Islands and land,” he said.

The Malaysian government said Friday that it can’t confirm the report.

And a senior U.S. official offered a conflicting account Thursday, telling CNN that “there is probably a significant likelihood” the plane is on the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

Among the things being considered is whether lithium batteries in the cargo hold, which have been blamed in previous crashes, played a role in the disappearance, according to U.S. officials briefed on the latest developments in the investigation. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release details to the media.

If the batteries being carried on the plane caused a fire, it still doesn’t fully explain other anomalies with Flight 370, the officials say.

Details of the search

Malaysian officials, who are coordinating the search, said Friday that the hunt for the plane was spreading deeper into both the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea.

India has deployed assets from its navy, coast guard and air force to the south Andaman Sea to take part in the search, the country’s Ministry of Defense said Friday.

Indian search teams are combing large areas of the archipelago. Two aircraft are searching land and coastal areas of the island chain from north to south, an Indian military spokesman said Friday, and two coast guard ships have been diverted to search along the islands’ east coast. Indian officials are also including part of the Bay of Bengal in their search, officials said.

As of Friday, 57 ships and 48 aircraft from 13 countries were involved in the search, Hishammuddin Hussein, the minister in charge of defense and transportation, said at a news briefing.

China, which said it would be extending its search, said crews have searched more than 27,000 square miles (about 70,000 square kilometers) of the South China Sea without finding anything.

On Friday, the United States sent the destroyer USS Kidd to scout the Indian Ocean as the search expands into that body of water.

“I, like most of the world, really have never seen anything like this,” Cmdr. William Marks of the U.S. 7th Fleet said of the scale of the search. “It’s pretty incredible.”

“It’s a completely new game now,” he said. “We went from a chess board to a football field.”

Malaysia Airlines: The pilots of the missing plane

Other developments

• “Seafloor event”: Chinese researchers say they recorded a “seafloor event” in waters around Malaysia and Vietnam about an hour and a half after the missing plane’s last known contact. The event was recorded in a non-seismic region about 116 kilometers (72 miles) northeast of the plane’s last confirmed location, the University of Science and Technology of China said.

“Judging from the time and location of the two events, the seafloor event may have been caused by MH370 crashing into the sea,” said a statement posted on the university’s website.

However, U.S. Geological Survey earthquake scientist Harley Benz said Friday that the event appeared to be consistent with a naturally occurring 2.7-magnitude earthquake.

• Malaysian response: Authorities continued to defend their response to the crash. “A normal investigation becomes narrower with time, I understand, as new information focuses the search,” Hussein said. “But this is not a normal investigation. In this case, the information we have forces us to look further and further afield.”

However, Bob Francis, a former National Transportation Safety Board official, is one of several experts who have questioned how Malaysian authorities have handled the situation.

“The Malaysians are not doing a superb job of running this investigation,” he said. “And they apparently give you some information, and then they withhold information. How much are they relying on and listening to the Europeans and the NTSB who are there with more expertise? I don’t know, but I think you know we’ve got a mixture of a very strange situation that happens to be in an environment, a regulatory environment, that really isn’t capable or isn’t running an investigation the way it should be run.”

Analysis shows two possible Indian Ocean paths for airliner | idrw.org
 
it would be so embarrassing for us ,if MH370 had landed or even crashed in one of the island chains undetected as being rumored.BTW island hosts Andaman and Nicobar Command don't we have a military radar facility over there capable of tracking aircraft ..?
 
Military data suggests ‘skilled’ pilot turned MH370 jet towards Indian ocean

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A Malaysian jet that vanished a week ago appears to have changed course and continued flying for hours, a senior Malaysian military official said Saturday, citing radar data indicating a “skilled, competent” pilot was at the controls.Speaking to AFP on condition of anonymity, the official cited Malaysian military radar data that investigators believe indicate the Boeing 777 may have radically changed course and headed northwest towards the Indian Ocean.

“It has to be a skilled, competent and a current pilot,” the official said.

“He knew how to avoid the civilian radar. He appears to have studied how to avoid it.”

The intended flight path for the Kuala Lumpur-Beijing flight was to be north over the South China Sea and Vietnam.

The new information, coupled with multiple corroborative but unconfirmed reports, suggests the investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 was increasingly focusing on something going wrong in the cockpit.

Analysts have said that could include a sudden loss of cabin pressure or other mechanical event that incapacitated the pilots, catastrophic pilot error, or more sinister possibilities such as the plane being commandeered by a hijacker or rogue member of the flight crew, or pilot suicide.

All signs so far point to a “controlled, deliberate act, not a mechanical failure”, said Scott Hamilton, managing director of US-based aviation consultancy Leeham Co.

The mounting reports of an unexplained banking to the west have coincided with a shift of search and rescue resources toward the Indian Ocean.

Search extends to Bay of Bengal
A US destroyer and surveillance plane joined expanded search operations Saturday in the Bay of Bengal. The international search effort had focused in its early days on the South China Sea.

Pentagon spokesman Colonel Steven Warren said the USS Kidd guided missile destroyer and a P-8 Poseidon aircraft had been deployed to the “western search area” at the request of Malaysian authorities.

While the Kidd would search the Andaman Sea and Bay of Bengal, the P-8 would cover “a much larger search area… the southern portion of the Bay of Bengal and the northern portion of the Indian Ocean,” Warren said.

The Boeing 777, with 239 passengers and crew on board, vanished March 8 over waters between Malaysia and southern Vietnam. The night was clear and no distress signal was received.

The hunt had initially focused on the South China Sea but has shifted dramatically given the absence of any findings, and following the indications the plane altered course.

India’s navy said it was doubling, at Malaysia’s behest, the number of ships and planes it had deployed to search the Indian Ocean waters around its remote Andaman and Nicobar islands.

The six vessels and five planes were concentrating on an area “designated” by the Malaysian navy in the southern region of the Andaman Sea, naval spokesman D.K. Sharma told AFP.

Close to 60 ships and 50 aircraft from 13 countries have been deployed across the entire search zone since MH370 went missing.

Reports of altered flight path
For distraught relatives of the passengers and crew, the expanded search offered no immediate relief from the anguished frustration of a week tainted by false leads and rumours.

Malaysian Transport and Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein on Friday repeatedly refused to comment on what he termed “unverified” information, as reports of an altered flight path mounted.

Multiple US media reports also had cited unidentified officials as saying a satellite continued to detect the plane’s automated communication system for hours after radar contact was lost.

The New York Times reported that Malaysian military radar data had shown the airliner altering course at least twice and changing altitude — sometimes erratically.

“If this is criminal — as looks increasingly likely — then information is going to be held closely to prevent leaks,” Hamilton said.

Hishammuddin confirmed the expansion of search operations in the Indian Ocean and said Malaysia was “sharing information we don’t normally share for security reasons”, hinting at confidential military data being scrutinised for clues.

The widening of the geographical search parameters poses enormous logistical challenges for wreckage identification and recovery.

The vast Indian Ocean has an average depth of nearly 3,900 metres (12,800 feet) and any debris would have been widely dispersed by currents after a week.

“Wind and sea conditions are definitely going to play a very big part if there is wreckage, and if it happens to be in the Indian Ocean. It is an immense area,” said Greg Waldron, Asia managing editor for aviation industry magazine FlightGlobal.

If it does turn out that Malaysian military radar tracked the missing aircraft, there will be questions as to why the air force was not sent to investigate a large plane flying with no transponders over a strategically sensitive region.

The plane has one of the best safety records of any jet, and the airline also has a solid record.

Military data suggests ‘skilled’ pilot turned MH370 jet towards Indian ocean | idrw.org
 
India to search outer extremity of missing airliner’s flight range


Graphic courtesy The New York Times. Did the Malaysian airliner run out of fuel and crash short of India, in the Bay of Bengal?


India’s role in the search for missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH 370 is growing, with the search expanding across the Bay of Bengal, close to the Chennai coast.

As hope fades, Malaysia is confronting the awful possibility that the airliner might have flown towards India until it ran out of fuel and plunged into the sea. The area that the Indian Navy has been asked to scan tomorrow is the extremity of the search bubble, 2,500 kilometres from Kuala Lumpur. Since Flight MH370 was carrying fuel enough for just 2,500 kilometres, it would have run dry in the area that India will search tomorrow --- a narrow band of sea 900 kilometres west of Port Blair, i.e. about 500 kilometres east of Chennai and Visakhapatnam.

Aircraft and ships from the Andaman & Nicobar Command that searched the South Andaman Sea all of Friday will be joined on Saturday by those of the Visakhapatnam-based Eastern Naval Command.

On Friday, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) revealed “The Malaysian authorities have also requested for a search in the Bay of Bengal, expanse of which is approx. 9000 sq km (15 km x 600 Km). This area is approx. 900 km due West of Port Blair. Search in this area would be undertaken by the resources of Eastern Naval Command.”

Naval sources tell Business Standard that two small Dornier aircraft will conduct this search on Saturday morning. In case nothing is found the larger, faster, P-8I aircraft will join the search from Port Blair and Arakonam naval bases.

The navy says two of its warships; INS Saryu and INS Kumbhir, combed the South Andaman Sea on Friday. In the afternoon, INS Kumbhir was replaced by helicopter-carrying INS Kesari, which can scan larger areas. Simultaneously, two Coast Guard vessels are searching close to the coastline.

Malaysian authorities in Kuala Lumpur are allocating search areas to the ten-odd countries that are assisting it. The Indian Navy is coordinating assistance from its Maritime Operations Centre (MOC) in New Delhi, while the Joint Operations Room at the Andaman & Nicobar Command in Port Blair is monitoring the progress of the search, says the navy.

Flight MH370, a Boeing 777 airliner, took off from Kuala Lumpur soon after midnight on Saturday, heading north on a six-hour flight to Beijing. Forty minutes into its flight, at about 1.30 a.m., it lost communication with air traffic control. While there is no certainty which direction it went thereafter,

Malaysian military radar picked up an unidentified aircraft heading westwards towards the Indian Ocean. Since then, the search has expanded towards the Andaman & Nicobar Islands.

Broadsword: India to search outer extremity of missing airliner’s flight range
 
well why dozens of aircrafts and ships were lost there without any trace is not clear ...
and there always lies tendency for humans to create hype over anything that appears mysterious .

No doubt that Bermuda traingle is one of such much celebrated mysterious spot on map of the earth.

Airfrance parts maybe floating after 1 year ..so what ?

There are lots of ifs and buts involved . Based on how plane crashed many outcomes are possible .
I was replying to the original question about how long the parts may be floating after crash...
 
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